They derive their strength through a substance .. Captain America Ingested serum.. universal soldier the villain, injected a substance that gives her strength .. Ivan Drago is injected steroids and hormones .. Bane Ingested the drug Venom.. they are all like "Popeye", getting his strength by eating spinach...
Draga is useless here. Cap takes his head off with the shield. It ends up being Cap vs Universal Solider and I think Cap would win because he's shown to be stronger and faster.
Ok. First off, unless the OP explicitly assumes the various "substances" make them equal for this fight (and that wasn't obvious to me. I assume you are just noting they are all artificially advanced), Cap and Bane blow the others out of the water stat wise.
Universal Soldier had a overheating weakness to be exploited. He goes down to attrition.
Drago isn't as powerful (again unless they are leveled for the sake of the OP) nor skilled in war. Good boxer, but he isn't taking Bane or Cap. Hell he isn't taking the Universal Soldier either, who had access to weapons.
Bane isn't smart enough to take Cap. And the cords sticking out of the back of his skull are an obvious exploitation point. Easy to remove if Robin and Batgirl are to be believed.
Cap has better stats, firearms and a indestructable shield. fight lasts about ten seconds if you ask me.
Ok. First off, unless the OP explicitly assumes the various "substances" make them equal for this fight (and that wasn't obvious to me. I assume you are just noting they are all artificially advanced), Cap and Bane blow the others out of the water stat wise. Universal Soldier had a overheating weakness to be exploited. He goes down to attrition. Drago isn't as powerful (again unless they are leveled for the sake of the OP) nor skilled in war. Good boxer, but he isn't taking Bane or Cap. Hell he isn't taking the Universal Soldier either, who had access to weapons. Bane isn't smart enough to take Cap. And the cords sticking out of the back of his skull are an obvious exploitation point. Easy to remove if Robin and Batgirl are to be believed. Cap has better stats, firearms and a indestructable shield. fight lasts about ten seconds if you ask me.
Captain depends on the serum .. (Red Bull ... XD) ... just like Drago and universal soldier depend on the inject substances.. Bane depends on the drug venom.. all depend on a drug or substance, to get super-strength ..
Captain depends on the serum .. (Red Bull ... XD) ... just like Drago and universal soldier depend on the inject substances.. Bane depends on the drug venom.. all depend on a drug or substance, to get super-strength ..
The serums work at different levels. Bane's Venom or Cap's SSS seeming to outshine the USoldier stuff, and definitely outdoing Drago's roids.
That taken into account, combined with equipment, experience and the like leaves Cap the victor.
Captain depends on the serum .. (Red Bull ... XD) ... just like Drago and universal soldier depend on the inject substances.. Bane depends on the drug venom.. all depend on a drug or substance, to get super-strength ..
The serums work at different levels. Bane's Venom or Cap's SSS seeming to outshine the USoldier stuff, and definitely outdoing Drago's roids.
That taken into account, combined with equipment, experience and the like leaves Cap the victor.
Captain without his shield, will be the same level as Universal Soldier and Drago... They derive their super-strength through a substance .. all are balanced .. (The captain without his shield)
Captain depends on the serum .. (Red Bull ... XD) ... just like Drago and universal soldier depend on the inject substances.. Bane depends on the drug venom.. all depend on a drug or substance, to get super-strength ..
The serums work at different levels. Bane's Venom or Cap's SSS seeming to outshine the USoldier stuff, and definitely outdoing Drago's roids.
That taken into account, combined with equipment, experience and the like leaves Cap the victor.
Captain without his shield, will be the same level as Universal Soldier and Drago... They derive their strength through a substance .. all are balanced .. (The captain without his shield)
They all derive their strenght trough a substance...but it´s not the same strength.....this is not balanced.
Captain depends on the serum .. (Red Bull ... XD) ... just like Drago and universal soldier depend on the inject substances.. Bane depends on the drug venom.. all depend on a drug or substance, to get super-strength ..
The serums work at different levels. Bane's Venom or Cap's SSS seeming to outshine the USoldier stuff, and definitely outdoing Drago's roids.
That taken into account, combined with equipment, experience and the like leaves Cap the victor.
Captain without his shield, will be the same level as Universal Soldier and Drago... They derive their strength through a substance .. all are balanced .. (The captain without his shield)
They all derive their strenght trough a substance...but it´s not the same strength.....this is not balanced.
Universal Soldier and Ivan Drago have the capacity to lift a ton (1.000 Kg), is the greatest human power, like the captain
Captain depends on the serum .. (Red Bull ... XD) ... just like Drago and universal soldier depend on the inject substances.. Bane depends on the drug venom.. all depend on a drug or substance, to get super-strength ..
The serums work at different levels. Bane's Venom or Cap's SSS seeming to outshine the USoldier stuff, and definitely outdoing Drago's roids.
That taken into account, combined with equipment, experience and the like leaves Cap the victor.
Captain without his shield, will be the same level as Universal Soldier and Drago... They derive their strength through a substance .. all are balanced .. (The captain without his shield)
They all derive their strenght trough a substance...but it´s not the same strength.....this is not balanced.
Universal Soldier and Ivan Drago have the capacity to lift a ton (1.000 Kg), is the greatest human power, like the captain
Ivan Drage lift a ton........yeah sure...Rocky took about 1000 hits to the face by a one tonner.......sure why not.......
possibly the captain has more capacity .. but universal soldier compared with batman, universal soldier has 2 times more strength and durability (like drago).. Batman (and Robin) does not use any substance or drug...
Ivan Drage lift a ton........yeah sure...Rocky took about 1000 hits to the face by a one tonner.......sure why not.......
possibly the captain has more capacity .. but universal soldier compared with batman, universal soldier has 2 times more strength and durability (like drago).. Batman (and Robin) does not use any substance or drug...
First of all show me a real life person that can lift a ton and we have a debate. Second....the universial soldier has physical stats superior to a regular human that´s true but how can you assume this for Drago? I don´t get it....he is a regular human boxer on steroids not Superman......
Ivan Drage lift a ton........yeah sure...Rocky took about 1000 hits to the face by a one tonner.......sure why not.......
possibly the captain has more capacity .. but universal soldier compared with batman, universal soldier has 2 times more strength and durability (like drago).. Batman (and Robin) does not use any substance or drug...
First of all show me a real life person that can lift a ton and we have a debate. Second....the universial soldier has physical stats superior to a regular human that´s true but how can you assume this for Drago? I don´t get it....he is a regular human boxer on steroids not Superman......
Drago's reputation is that of a superman; he wields a super punch of 1850psi, although some measurements captured Drago at a staggering 2150psi, whereas the average psi for a boxer is 700psi. Drago is carefully fitted and trained to be the consummate fighter, with his heart rate and punching power constantly measured via computers during his workouts. Drago is seen receiving injections in the movie (presumably anabolic steroids, though this is never explicitly stated).
Drago is married to another athlete, Ludmilla Drago (Brigitte Nielsen) who is mentioned to be a gold medalist in swimming. She is much more articulate than Ivan, and always speaks on his behalf at press conferences and interviews. Her status as an elite athlete is questionable given that she is seen smoking during the fight with Apollo Creed. She explains her husband's freakish size and strength by saying "he is like your Popeye. He eats his spinach everyday!"
This information is from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Drago
It Seems you did not see the movie Rocky IV ... as you can see the strength of a boxer average is 700, and dragon has a power of 2,150 ... getting stuck levels of over 300 kg of pressure (equivalent to a stroke caused by a small car at a speed of 90km / h) ... too little?
Drago is an experiment Super-Human ... His power is very similar to Captain America .. surely he can dominate a weight greater than 800 kg .. must balance with the captain ..
Ivan Drage lift a ton........yeah sure...Rocky took about 1000 hits to the face by a one tonner.......sure why not.......
possibly the captain has more capacity .. but universal soldier compared with batman, universal soldier has 2 times more strength and durability (like drago).. Batman (and Robin) does not use any substance or drug...
First of all show me a real life person that can lift a ton and we have a debate. Second....the universial soldier has physical stats superior to a regular human that´s true but how can you assume this for Drago? I don´t get it....he is a regular human boxer on steroids not Superman......
Drago's reputation is that of a superman; he wields a super punch of 1850psi, although some measurements captured Drago at a staggering 2150psi, whereas the average psi for a boxer is 700psi. Drago is carefully fitted and trained to be the consummate fighter, with his heart rate and punching power constantly measured via computers during his workouts. Drago is seen receiving injections in the movie (presumably anabolic steroids, though this is never explicitly stated).
Drago is married to another athlete, Ludmilla Drago (Brigitte Nielsen) who is mentioned to be a gold medalist in swimming. She is much more articulate than Ivan, and always speaks on his behalf at press conferences and interviews. Her status as an elite athlete is questionable given that she is seen smoking during the fight with Apollo Creed. She explains her husband's freakish size and strength by saying "he is like your Popeye. He eats his spinach everyday!"
This information is from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Drago
It Seems you did not see the movie Rocky IV ... as you can see the strength of a boxer average is 700, and dragon has a power of 2,150 ... getting stuck levels of over 300 kg of pressure (equivalent to a stroke caused by a small car at a speed of 90km / h) ... too little?
Drago is an experiment Super-Human ... His power is very similar to Captain America .. surely he can dominate a weight greater than 800 kg .. must balance with the captain ..
Drago is evolution, the human of the future
Obviously you have never seen Rocky. First of all this Wikipedia entry is plain and simple untrue. A high class boxer has a ways stronger punch even above the "superhuman" 2150psi of Drago. And judging by his feat that Rocky took hundreds of punches to the face shows that he really can´t be superhuman in strength. Of course Rockys durability is ridiculous in the movie but it´s easy to see that Drago isn´t superhuman strong. He is a good boxer (in a not very realistic boxing movie) but nothing more.
Ivan Drage lift a ton........yeah sure...Rocky took about 1000 hits to the face by a one tonner.......sure why not.......
possibly the captain has more capacity .. but universal soldier compared with batman, universal soldier has 2 times more strength and durability (like drago).. Batman (and Robin) does not use any substance or drug...
First of all show me a real life person that can lift a ton and we have a debate. Second....the universial soldier has physical stats superior to a regular human that´s true but how can you assume this for Drago? I don´t get it....he is a regular human boxer on steroids not Superman......
Drago's reputation is that of a superman; he wields a super punch of 1850psi, although some measurements captured Drago at a staggering 2150psi, whereas the average psi for a boxer is 700psi. Drago is carefully fitted and trained to be the consummate fighter, with his heart rate and punching power constantly measured via computers during his workouts. Drago is seen receiving injections in the movie (presumably anabolic steroids, though this is never explicitly stated).
Drago is married to another athlete, Ludmilla Drago (Brigitte Nielsen) who is mentioned to be a gold medalist in swimming. She is much more articulate than Ivan, and always speaks on his behalf at press conferences and interviews. Her status as an elite athlete is questionable given that she is seen smoking during the fight with Apollo Creed. She explains her husband's freakish size and strength by saying "he is like your Popeye. He eats his spinach everyday!"
This information is from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Drago
It Seems you did not see the movie Rocky IV ... as you can see the strength of a boxer average is 700, and dragon has a power of 2,150 ... getting stuck levels of over 300 kg of pressure (equivalent to a stroke caused by a small car at a speed of 90km / h) ... too little?
Drago is an experiment Super-Human ... His power is very similar to Captain America .. surely he can dominate a weight greater than 800 kg .. must balance with the captain ..
Drago is evolution, the human of the future
Obviously you have never seen Rocky. First of all this Wikipedia entry is plain and simple untrue. A high class boxer has a ways stronger punch even above the "superhuman" 2150psi of Drago. And judging by his feat that Rocky took hundreds of punches to the face shows that he really can´t be superhuman in strength. Of course Rockys durability is ridiculous in the movie but it´s easy to see that Drago isn´t superhuman strong. He is a good boxer (in a not very realistic boxing movie) but nothing more.
Ivan Drage lift a ton........yeah sure...Rocky took about 1000 hits to the face by a one tonner.......sure why not.......
possibly the captain has more capacity .. but universal soldier compared with batman, universal soldier has 2 times more strength and durability (like drago).. Batman (and Robin) does not use any substance or drug...
First of all show me a real life person that can lift a ton and we have a debate. Second....the universial soldier has physical stats superior to a regular human that´s true but how can you assume this for Drago? I don´t get it....he is a regular human boxer on steroids not Superman......
Drago's reputation is that of a superman; he wields a super punch of 1850psi, although some measurements captured Drago at a staggering 2150psi, whereas the average psi for a boxer is 700psi. Drago is carefully fitted and trained to be the consummate fighter, with his heart rate and punching power constantly measured via computers during his workouts. Drago is seen receiving injections in the movie (presumably anabolic steroids, though this is never explicitly stated).
Drago is married to another athlete, Ludmilla Drago (Brigitte Nielsen) who is mentioned to be a gold medalist in swimming. She is much more articulate than Ivan, and always speaks on his behalf at press conferences and interviews. Her status as an elite athlete is questionable given that she is seen smoking during the fight with Apollo Creed. She explains her husband's freakish size and strength by saying "he is like your Popeye. He eats his spinach everyday!"
This information is from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Drago
It Seems you did not see the movie Rocky IV ... as you can see the strength of a boxer average is 700, and dragon has a power of 2,150 ... getting stuck levels of over 300 kg of pressure (equivalent to a stroke caused by a small car at a speed of 90km / h) ... too little?
Drago is an experiment Super-Human ... His power is very similar to Captain America .. surely he can dominate a weight greater than 800 kg .. must balance with the captain ..
Drago is evolution, the human of the future
Obviously you have never seen Rocky. First of all this Wikipedia entry is plain and simple untrue. A high class boxer has a ways stronger punch even above the "superhuman" 2150psi of Drago. And judging by his feat that Rocky took hundreds of punches to the face shows that he really can´t be superhuman in strength. Of course Rockys durability is ridiculous in the movie but it´s easy to see that Drago isn´t superhuman strong. He is a good boxer (in a not very realistic boxing movie) but nothing more.
Ivan Drage lift a ton........yeah sure...Rocky took about 1000 hits to the face by a one tonner.......sure why not.......
possibly the captain has more capacity .. but universal soldier compared with batman, universal soldier has 2 times more strength and durability (like drago).. Batman (and Robin) does not use any substance or drug...
First of all show me a real life person that can lift a ton and we have a debate. Second....the universial soldier has physical stats superior to a regular human that´s true but how can you assume this for Drago? I don´t get it....he is a regular human boxer on steroids not Superman......
Drago's reputation is that of a superman; he wields a super punch of 1850psi, although some measurements captured Drago at a staggering 2150psi, whereas the average psi for a boxer is 700psi. Drago is carefully fitted and trained to be the consummate fighter, with his heart rate and punching power constantly measured via computers during his workouts. Drago is seen receiving injections in the movie (presumably anabolic steroids, though this is never explicitly stated).
Drago is married to another athlete, Ludmilla Drago (Brigitte Nielsen) who is mentioned to be a gold medalist in swimming. She is much more articulate than Ivan, and always speaks on his behalf at press conferences and interviews. Her status as an elite athlete is questionable given that she is seen smoking during the fight with Apollo Creed. She explains her husband's freakish size and strength by saying "he is like your Popeye. He eats his spinach everyday!"
This information is from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Drago
It Seems you did not see the movie Rocky IV ... as you can see the strength of a boxer average is 700, and dragon has a power of 2,150 ... getting stuck levels of over 300 kg of pressure (equivalent to a stroke caused by a small car at a speed of 90km / h) ... too little?
Drago is an experiment Super-Human ... His power is very similar to Captain America .. surely he can dominate a weight greater than 800 kg .. must balance with the captain ..
Drago is evolution, the human of the future
Obviously you have never seen Rocky. First of all this Wikipedia entry is plain and simple untrue. A high class boxer has a ways stronger punch even above the "superhuman" 2150psi of Drago. And judging by his feat that Rocky took hundreds of punches to the face shows that he really can´t be superhuman in strength. Of course Rockys durability is ridiculous in the movie but it´s easy to see that Drago isn´t superhuman strong. He is a good boxer (in a not very realistic boxing movie) but nothing more.
I give up there is no sense arguing with a fanboy.
Captain America wins .. is an expert in combat .. Captain America has no super-human strength, Drago has no super-human strength .. when we say that they are superman, is an exaggeration .. Obviously .. they are human at 100% capacity developed, perfect human ... mutants are not .. supermans are not .. they are perfect human .. Captain America is more perfect, Ivan Drago is almost perfect, but not completely..
Obviously you have never seen Rocky. First of all this Wikipedia entry is plain and simple untrue. A high class boxer has a ways stronger punch even above the "superhuman" 2150psi of Drago. And judging by his feat that Rocky took hundreds of punches to the face shows that he really can´t be superhuman in strength. Of course Rockys durability is ridiculous in the movie but it´s easy to see that Drago isn´t superhuman strong. He is a good boxer (in a not very realistic boxing movie) but nothing more.
Really? A 2150 psi punch equates to about 9000 pounds of force. If you know of a case where a fighter exceeded that amount, I would love to hear about it!
According to one study, an "elite" fighter punches with a force of 700-800 pounds. The upper end of this spectrum is 1300-1400 pounds.
On the show Sport Science, MMA heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez's punch was recorded at 2230 pounds of force -- the highest ever recorded on the show.
Oh, and Rocky took hundreds of punches to the face because it was a movie -- and not a particularly good one, at that.
If a real boxer took that many blows to the head, the results would probably be fatal.
@Labyrinth:I have read that Manny Pacquiao broke the record with a 3000 psi haymaker. I honestly wouldn´t lay my hand into the fire for this but your example of the MMA champ shows that it´s inside the frame of human possibilites. I was mostly debating against the statement that Drago and the Universial Soldier are on the same level.
@serum: I apologize for the fanboy statement but bringing up the Apollo fight as a "feat" was simply too much. It´s like saying a person who can punch a dummy for 10 minutes is a professional boxer......We can agree that Cap wins and Drago is......well.....strong....
@Labyrinth:I have read that Manny Pacquiao broke the record with a 3000 psi haymaker. I honestly wouldn´t lay my hand into the fire for this but your example of the MMA champ shows that it´s inside the frame of human possibilites. I was mostly debating against the statement that Drago and the Universial Soldier are on the same level.
@serum: I apologize for the fanboy statement but bringing up the Apollo fight as a "feat" was simply too much. It´s like saying a person who can punch a dummy for 10 minutes is a professional boxer......We can agree that Cap wins and Drago is......well.....strong....
Drago is as strong as Wolverine .. Wolverine is able to lift a weight of 800 lbs (360 kg) .. and drago is capable of exerting a pressure of 300 kg .. I've heard 2 different versions of Captain America .. One version is that the captain is able to lift 800 lbs (360 kg) .. and another version that it is capable of lift a ton .. I do not know the real version ..
@Labyrinth:I have read that Manny Pacquiao broke the record with a 3000 psi haymaker. I honestly wouldn´t lay my hand into the fire for this but your example of the MMA champ shows that it´s inside the frame of human possibilites. I was mostly debating against the statement that Drago and the Universial Soldier are on the same level.
@serum: I apologize for the fanboy statement but bringing up the Apollo fight as a "feat" was simply too much. It´s like saying a person who can punch a dummy for 10 minutes is a professional boxer......We can agree that Cap wins and Drago is......well.....strong....
Drago is as strong as Wolverine .. Wolverine is able to lift a weight of 800 lbs (360 kg) .. and drago is capable of exerting a pressure of 300 kg .. I've heard 2 different versions of Captain America .. One version is that the captain is able to lift 800 lbs (360 kg) .. and another version that it is capable of lift a ton .. I do not know the real version ..
616 Cap and Ultimate Cap is who you are talking about
@Labyrinth:I have read that Manny Pacquiao broke the record with a 3000 psi haymaker. I honestly wouldn´t lay my hand into the fire for this but your example of the MMA champ shows that it´s inside the frame of human possibilites. I was mostly debating against the statement that Drago and the Universial Soldier are on the same level.
The claim concerning Manny Pacquiao has, to the best of my knowledge, never been substantiated. I believe it falls in the category of an urban legend.
Also, I will point out that many fans confused psi (pounds per square inch) -- a measure of pressure -- with pounds of force -- a measure of force.
The MMA's champ's best punch was 2230 pounds of force; Drago's punch was approximately 9000 pounds of force.
Also, I will add, that just because someone can punch a target with 2230 pounds (or even 9000 pounds) of force does not mean that they can lift that much. I believe we are in agreement that Drago could not lift a metric ton.
Anywho -- Captain America would take this one. And Drago, even with his punching power, would be the first one to fall.
Drago is as strong as Wolverine .. Wolverine is able to lift a weight of 800 lbs (360 kg) .. and drago is capable of exerting a pressure of 300 kg .. I've heard 2 different versions of Captain America .. One version is that the captain is able to lift 800 lbs (360 kg) .. and another version that it is capable of lift a ton .. I do not know the real version ..
Being able to punch with a certain force is not the same thing as lifting the equivalent weight. Drago has done nothing to suggest that he is as strong as Captain America or Wolverine.
@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:
Captain America wins, but make no mistake, Bane is far from stupid or weak off Venom.
Except that the picture of Bane came from that god-awful movie... (:
I know Popeye is not in this fight, but if he was he'd win. He's got Toon-level durability and I don't see Cap doing anything that he can't recover from. How many times has Popeye been completely flattened like a pancake only to blow back up? The guy takes shots from pizza rollers, anvils and big wooden hammers and comes back to deliver a knockout blow. A shield toss is not going to do much to him.
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