Captain America vs Black Panther (MCU)

Captain PIS probably wins this fight after TChalla's Vibranium suit some how magically stops acting like vibranium and he gets one shotted.

@makhai: Cap never stomped BP in the fight. BP literally kicked him away. Then WM came and slammed his hammer down on Caps shield. Then Cap blocked some of BP's hits with his shield and was able to kick WM away and then Bp too. At no point in the fight were WM and BP fighting continuity together against Cap. And Cap only landed one hit on Panther and vice versa.

@js_the_beast: On top of that. BP did far better against Bucky than Cap has ever done. Has far better durability and similar strength. Showed better speed and agility. This really is either a stalemate or BP wins. Logic can dictate no other way.

There seems to be little evidence to show Bucky as a good base for comparison here.

Bucky couldn't care less about BP, and thus was mostly on the defensive or trying to avoid the fight. Bucky promised not to kill anyone. Even when he was triggered into his programmed mentality, his objective was never to attack BP. In WS, he was able to stalemate Cap while targeting him (but was beaten when he had to go on defense during the climax of the film). Barnes seems to be much better at attack-based fighting than defense (because when you're the best assassin out there, you don't really train to block a punch). Cap is better at going on the defensive and countering.

If T'Challah was fighting the Winter Soldier, (instead of Bucky) the fights would have most certainly gone differently.

I have no clue who would win with Cap vs BP. But there seem far too many variables to use Bucky as an argument for BP.

I'd wait for Black Panther to gain more feats before fully deciding either way but it's a pretty close fight at the moment. Black Panther seems to have a speed edge as while fighting Bucky he appeared more capable than Cap in terms of dodging and countering however in the brief encounter they had Steve was able to block a lot of T'Challa's so I don't know that this will be enough to win. Cap has the strength and striking power advantage but Black Panther isn't too far behind seeing as he was holding out against Bucky's metal arm fairly well. Overall though I'd give it to Cap, he has the general advantage in my eyes currently.

Black Panther is superior, I believe

@war_of_light_2814: True.. Rhodey was not a very good contributer to that fight. But against Ant-man he did fair. he shouldve used his war hammer more effectively on Cap, he shouldve known that you shouldnt try to fly into him. Wasn't Rhodes in the military? Shouldnt he have some kind of combat training prior to encountering Cap? Plus that fight with the Extremis soldiers was very impressive especially without the suit. He shot a chain with a little hand gun and managed to take them out despite the odds not looking in his favor. Plus he had no options in the fight. Most of his weapons are lethal and he is no where near the skills of Cap.

Black panther wins more often than not.

He is as good in stats and skill if not better, and claws make up for the shield.

His suit gives him the edge.

Panther wrecks

50 / 50 fight..

Very even fight... Black Panther is more skilled but Captain America is more brutal.

If Captain America was fighting for something important... He'll be able to reach that extra gear and come out on top... He just wont give up even if it kills him.

Black Panther is the superior fighter hand to hand.. But his heart isnt as big as Steve Roger's.

Cap.

BP easily.

could go either way, but I'd back cap for a very slim majority

BP destroys.

Cap was able to hold off both Panther and War-Machine (off screen) for an extender period of time during the airport fight scene. With his shield Cap is better, without it, Panther.

@klbro123: the suit to BP is what the serum and shield is to cap so your argument is invalid.

And without the BP's suit and Cap's serum BP is still the clear winner.

I just want to say I think it was pretty clear in the film that Panther was stronger than Bucky, I mean they gave us at least 3 pieces of compelling evidence suggesting this in the film, don't really get how people argue that tbh.

I do think that Cap is slightly above Bucky now as well though so panther vs cap is very even.

In the suit panther can match cap for stregth though as he matched buckys metal arm which is stronger than cap (shown by when he pushed him down the elevator) but in speed and agility I think Panther is better

I'm gonna take a 6/10 majority for panther

I say Cap takes it more often than not, he is more skilled having faced more dangerous threats than Panther as far as we know, the fact that he was able to adapt to Panthers style after one kick and come back landing a hard kick of his own in their brief dust up leads me to believe that at this moment Steve is simply more versatile as a fighter, either that or he stopped holding back after the initial kick.

Strength is easily in Steves favor, Panther has no feats to suggest he is in Caps league here, it's implied that they are close but the feats simply aren't there.

Speed In straight running speed Panther is faster than Steve but it doesn't seem to translate into combat as Steve had no problem dodging most of T'challas attacks.

Durability The fight didn't last long enough to really gauge this, shield vs suit is pretty close.

Agility In my opinion is a wash as well, Steve has performed acrobatic attacks that are just as good as Panthers.

Experience edge goes to Steve as well he has been fighting since World War 2, not for the length of time, but for the variety of tougher opposition he has faced, this may change as Panther acquires more feats.

Tchalla wins due to better durability although Steve's shield could be an important factor.

Cap he have more impressive feats like fighting ultron and beating iron man he has been taken to his limits and byohnd his fighting hart will give him the win in the end and as good and fast and strong BP is he hadn't shown yet that side like cap did he needs more feats just wait for his solo movie then we can know

Tchalla's suit was tanking machine gun bullets.How will cap hurt him.

Black Panther.

Bucky...I mean cap

@exmaster3000:

And why is that? BP is stronger, faster, more durable, more dangerous, and just as skilled.

@bladeoffury: I don't think he is. Do you have any evidence of this?

@exmaster3000:

Yes. Twice in the CV, T'Challa overpowered Bucky's metal arm. Considering that the metal arm is the strongest part of Bucky and BP > metal arm, BP is physically stronger than Bucky.

Black Panther, because of his durability and the means to overcome Steve's lesser durability with his claws.

Cap, but TChalla will probably surpass him when his movies comes out.

@bladeoffury: Actually bucky overpovered panther with his arm, even while bp had both arm and bodyweight on the lock. BP shat his pants and needed to direct the fight away.

@ithemanwithoutfeari: no amount of movies will make panther surpass cap.

In feats, physicals, and as a character cap》>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bp

I still stand by a slight majority for Cap. For now

@exmaster3000:

Lol, would you like to do a CaV on this? On Cap vs. BP?

@bladeoffury: Nah I lost interest on this, so I admit my defeat.

Cap

The white guy

@ganon15: @captain_inverse:

Why is that?

He seemed to score more hits on T'Challa than T'Challa did on him

I think Cap might slightly just edge it atm because of the shield

But if it was pure H2H Panther would win

I think he should be shown superior in his own film I'm hoping

Nope, they actually each got 1 hit.

Stalemate

They're evenly matched kinda at the moment

This.

We'll see more from Panther in his solo movie, until then they are equals.

I figured this was worth a bump with the new trailer. Not that it really would change any positions.

@nomar: BP seems way more agile and equally as strong from the short look we got.

Still Cap.

Might change when the movies comes out.

Cap for a slim majority. Good fight every time tho. Could change when BP's solo film comes out

The thing is. I don't think BP could do much to change some of your minds. That's not on some race baiting stuff either. It's on some popularity contest level.