Captain America (MCU) vs Arya Stark (GoT)

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#1  Edited By BladeOfFury  Online
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Cap is unarmed, full knowledge for both, morals off, fight in street clothes.

Who wins?

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Steve baby-shakes

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#3  Edited By the_magister

Arya wrecks

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Cap can be snuck up on by mercs, Arya stealth-killed The Night King.

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Cap stomps in straight fight

Arya kills Cap in a mission

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What has Arya done to be put up against Cap? I'm pretty sure he could just ragdoll her around.

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Cap stomp. You have many fighters who can beat Arya in GoT verse. She is FAR from being that impressive. What is her best feast again ? Taking briefly advantage of a confused and surprised+holding back Brienne ? Lol.

Seriously this should be locked, Arya stand no chance at all. MCU DD (and not on his Defenders lvl) would beat Arya without a doubt.

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Odd and a mismatch of a fight. Steve wrecks her badly.

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Arya can only win with prep time.

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@kingantagonist: Even after Brienne became aware of her opponent's capabilities, her defense was bypassed and she was tagged multiple times. D&D stated that Arya is one of the best fighters btw.

What's Cap's best feat? I'd say that DD has a better chance of beating her than Cap does, due to his armor's ability to deflect the sword (Cap doesn't have such luxury).

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What has Arya done to be put up against Cap? I'm pretty sure he could just ragdoll her around.

She outperformed 2 men of the Kinsguard against Brienne. Meryn Trant, another Kinsguard, beat Syrio Forel, who beat 4 surrounding Lannister soldiers at once.

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#11  Edited By ScotticusRex

Morals off Cap is a pretty scary prospect. I'd go with him.

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@bladeoffury: None of those people you mentioned are on Caps level, Brienne is a great fighter, i know she was able to take down the Hound with a bit of difficulty but there's nothing that her and Ayra have done that would be remotely close to what Cap has done. Also Meryn was caught off guard when Ayra killed him.

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When will people stop feeding trolls

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#14  Edited By UberCoffeeTime

When will people stop feeding trolls

You just fed it. GG

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@kolkent:go back to trolling the Star Wars fandom

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@kolkent: Thoughts on my analysis here? Arya does win, right?

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@randybutternubs: I'm not scaling Arya from Merlyn based on her assassination, I'm scaling her based on her fight with Brienne, who took down 2 men of the Kinsguard, when only 1 Kinsguard can outperform 4 and a half armed, surrounding Lannister soldiers. Crazy impressive.

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#19 BladeOfFury  Online

When will people stop feeding trolls

Skill is obviously the most significant aspect here, as either combatant can one-shot the other. What's Cap's best skill feat?

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#20  Edited By RandyButterNubs

@bladeoffury: That would be impressive in GoT verse but not compared to what Cap has done.

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@bladeoffury: Umm...she was wearing heavy armor-her defenses were not bypassed at all and the fight ended not in a draw...but with Arya trying to reach up with a knife at a much taller opponent who was stabbing a longsword at her face.

Guess who wins that exchange 9 times out of ten?

I know it looked coll, but Arya realistically lost every exchange in that match...her only tags were with a small sword against plate, she was put on her ass, disarmed, and ended on a losing position.

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@paytience: Actually, Arya also tagged Brienne in the leg, and the multiple times that she tagged Brienne in the body also count, as Brienne was trying to prevent that from happening. This was a sparring match, not an armor exhibition.

Are you suggesting that Arya couldn't have reached Brienne's neck with her knife at the end?

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#24  Edited By BOC  Online

I haven't watched GoT yet but is her best feat being > 2 > 1 > 4 ?

I'd say that's below Cap's elevator feat, so he should take this. I wouldn't say it's a mismatch, though.

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#25  Edited By RandyButterNubs

@bladeoffury:

Evading Bucky's knife in CQC and countering with attacks.

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Evaded another knife in CQC used by a trained solider

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KOed him with his knee then threw him on the ground

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Quickly disposed of a Mercenary

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Dodging and countering crossbone’s attacks,

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Dodged his blade and counter-attack

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Theres more but does Ayra have any feats of CQC,reacting as fast or fighting someone who is fast as Cap?

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#26  Edited By Paytience

@bladeoffury: She didn't tag her multiple times to the body...she tapped her once to the cuirass which would of done nothing even had Brienne only been wearing cloth. The other strike...you mean to her armored leg? She got teeped in the chest and put flat on her ass for that. Twice Arya tries to surprise Brienne with fancy maneuvers...and twice all it did was sacrifice her position and put her in situations that would have got her killed against a serious Brienne. That was the the first. Next was the only time she tried to exchanged with a fully engaged Brienne and she got disarmed. After that she again tries to surprise Brienne with a fancy maneuver, only to lose her posisition with the knife drop.

Yes, I am saying Arya would not have reached. First, Brienne was in position first. She stops and watches because she is super interested and surprised at how good Arya is. But Brienne literally stops so as not to actually stab Arya. She smiles immediately afterward. Second...the end position, with Arya reaching, only works if Brienne falls forward, in which case Arya dies as well. If Brienne hab simply followed through with the stab, then the best Arya could have hoped for was to land a cut before dying, as Brienne's thrust would have knocked her back...had Brienne had simply leaned or stepped back while stabbing, Arya dies without a hope.

Here's the link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4US9QGU2yQI

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#27 BladeOfFury  Online

@boc said:

I haven't watched GoT yet but is her best feat being > 2 > 1 > 4 ?

I'd say that's below Cap's elevator feat, so he should take this. I wouldn't say it's a mismatch, though.

The elevator is a good one, but Cap only had to worry about one side for the most impressive part of he fight, and due to the cramped space, only several could stand in front of him at once. When his opponents all surrounded him, he got grabbed and tased immediately. When he had his back to the wall (or to the dude holding him in a headlock), I would like to mention that 5 out of 6 agents that he fends off were actually trying to restrain him, not tag him (no point in hitting him with their fists). Some of them were already restraining him before, and the rest go in unarmed in order to help out. So, we have no idea how many times Cap would have gotten tagged if all his opponents actually wanted to tag him.

Still an impressive feat, but I doubt it's superior to Arya's scaling chain when it comes to pure skill. He might compensate with his stat advantage, however. Pretty close fight imo.

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@randybutternubs: 2 of those opponents are only impressive because of their performance against Cap, and the other 2 are literally fodder. It's not just about the type of weapon being used against Cap, it's also about the fighter using it.

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#30  Edited By RandyButterNubs

@bladeoffury: All those opponents are more impressive than Ayra tho, what has she done done skill wise to be on Caps level, whats her CQC or combat speed feats?

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@randybutternubs: Her feats, other than sneaking the NK, are all decidedly human. And not just human, but well in line with her actual physical stature.

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#32 BladeOfFury  Online

@randybutternubs: A random dude with a knife is more impressive than Arya? Her best cqc feat is outperforming 2 Kingsguards against Brienne, as I said.

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@paytience: So nothing really impressive compared to Cap?

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@bladeoffury: How does the on-paper for Lannister soldiers compare to SHIELD agents?

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#35  Edited By Paytience

@bladeoffury: She's never fought two Kingsguard. The only person she 'fought' who was ever anything resembling kingsguard let her stab him to prove a point, and then backhanded her when she couldn't penetrate his armor.

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#36 BladeOfFury  Online

@bladeoffury: Arya couldn't handle 3 wights in a hallway.

Wasn't she hurt and depleted after a prolonged battle? Anyway, I chose to ignore the entire Battle of Winterfell. Jon was surrounded by like 50 weights at one point (they were literally on top of him) and kept cutting through them. The wights were shown ripping through stone with their bare hands and yet Arya (who is supposedly "well in line with her actual physical stature") could stop their blows.

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@bladeoffury: Can you provide the video of her vs Kingsguards like i asked?

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#42  Edited By RandyButterNubs

@bladeoffury: What does that have to do with Ayra tho? I asked for CQC scans, the are both unarmed like the OP says.

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#43 BladeOfFury  Online

@boc said:

@bladeoffury: How does the on-paper for Lannister soldiers compare to SHIELD agents?

Inferior for sure, but they also had swords and armor.

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*insert Cap kicking a man 10 feet off a boat*

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@bladeoffury: You mean a sparring match? It wasn't an actual fight lmao

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@bladeoffury: A prolonged battle? It was a few minutes. Arya was standing the last wall. She fought impressively and then she fled. Ripping through stone? Stop lying. Regular humans of all levels were able to kill them by the multiples.

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@bladeoffury: Also she didn't outperformed much considering Brienne was able to drop her on the ground with a simple kick.

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@bladeoffury: What was the Kingsguard armed with when he fought the soldiers? And what were Brienne and Arya armed with when they fought?

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@bladeoffury: Not Arya and not kingsguard. Keep false equivocating to someone who is far less than Cap anyway though.