
Rules and Stipulations
All the characters are at their peak
only winconditions are death
Nuetral location for battle
everyone is in character
everyone has full knowledge on each other
Hades is enough to handle Whis, put Grand priest in Whis place then he blinks this gauntlet.
What feat has he done to suggest this? Emphasis on my use of the word FEAT
Doesn´t Dark Lessa has like the power of billions of universes?
Also nothing in DBS for now is able to beat Dark Schneider, that hasn´t changed since 2017 until now. The only argument for a DB character will be stats and Hakai, but DS can just wait until the enemy has no stamina to start onetab them, and Hakai doesn´t affect Higher Dimensional Existence, nor Type 9 immortality or Mid to high godly regen. Heck, even Zeno can´t erase Dark Schneider.
I am not up to date with current Saint Seiya (Episode G Requiem) and didn´t consumed HCLW, or GoH yet.
@thenamelessone: Makes this a DbH xeno goku vs the team and then there is a match. This is almost spite
@estrelladeleon: With what feats?
You can argue the same with Mori though, and he even has on panel showings of seeing timelines in literal 2-D, flat panels. That's above the same Supreme Gods that are stated to be "higher dimensional", twice if not more.
You do realise being higher dimensional doesn’t make you infallible especially not in GOH because even Maitreya and the previous Buddha and even Mori before he was supreme God has been described as higher dimensional, it doesn’t have any relevance unless the verse follows strong theory or has any statements that make the higher spatial dimension superior to the previous.
Nevermind being higher dimensional doesn’t mean lower dimensional beings can’t interact with you smh, a 5D being meaning exists in a 5D plane and can interact with dimensions 1 to 5 still exists across all 5 dimension asame way we exist in the first, second, third and 4th we cant interact with the 4th and in a verse with a 5th dimension it would mean we can’t interact with the 5th. Howver that doesn’t change the 5D character still exists in planes that can be interacTed with and can thereby be destroyed.
But that overly complex paragraph I mentioned doesn’t matter cause GOH doesn’t follow string theory in the first place cause the repeatedly stated higher dimensional Mori, Buddha and Maitreya have never interacted with time let alone any dimension above that, the only time Mori has was when he was in nirvana and that wasn’t an ability of him being the supreme God and more so was a property of the location and therefore isn’t battle applicable. Mori is in reality just 3D using any real logic unless those so called higher dimensions are between the 3rd and 4th dimensions making the order wrong with time being like a later dimension like the 6th to explain why it couldn’t be controlled.
Anyways Whis can bash Mori everyone else is too much for him tbh.
This dimensionality stuff just doesn't have any merit to the applications by GOH. The fact dimensionality in that setting correlates to the status of a certain character, straight-up enforcing laws on separate realms like the Gods have done to the Human World, enacting contracts by a combination of other races, and in the end, the Supreme God has the final say, because he dimensionally is not on the same tier. So this:
But that overly complex paragraph I mentioned doesn’t matter cause GOH doesn’t follow string theory in the first place cause the repeatedly stated higher dimensional Mori, Buddha and Maitreya have never interacted with time let alone any dimension above that, the only time Mori has was when he was in nirvana and that wasn’t an ability of him being the supreme God and more so was a property of the location and therefore isn’t battle applicable.
Sums up the irrelevancy in trying to equate dimensionality to God Of Highschool like that, because, at the end of the day, it will always apply regardless of the different mechanisms. It all fundamentally backs down to if this character has the same form of transcendence as God Of Highschool, one that operates in layers, equating to superior potency. Contracts, Laws, and Supreme God Status are still exceeding the boundaries of the aforementioned dimension and those within it.
I know there are characters here who can beat Whis but based on what I’m reading it turn into a Whis vs Mori debate lol. All i’m say is one hand has consistent feats and other hand one is just based on references from the actual story.
Seeing as how we’ve never seen what any angel can really do and never will I’m gonna say no.
@thenamelessone: Makes this a DbH xeno goku vs the team and then there is a match. This is almost spite
Even if we add Xeno Goku, Dark Lessa is going to be quite an obstacle, her AND HCLW.
@ultimaweapons34: From what I heard, xeno goku is multiversal+ and has a keysword that negates hax. I don't know dark lessa but he might be able to challenge HCLW and beat Mori
@ultimaweapons34: From what I heard, xeno goku is multiversal+ and has a keysword that negates hax. I don't know dark lessa but he might be able to challenge HCLW and beat Mori
I can have arguments for him being higher honestly. HCLW While he gets serverly oustated, he makes up for it in Hax (Conceptual Manip, High-Godly Regen, the works. Estrella has a whole blog on him so might wanna check that out.) Yes, Xeno Goku himself has some hax on his own without Keysword.
Power Null (Dimensional Domain.)
Non-Physical Interaction/Conceptual Manipulation Type 2 (He alongside Vegeta Killed Black Janemba who has more Than enough sources to be the very concept of evil)
Probability Manipulation (Mircale CI)
Acausality Types 1 and 4 (Immune to changes in the past, Still existed even after Mechikabura absorbed all of history within himself, basically making History Nonexistent.)
Resistance to Existence Erasure, Causality Manipulation (Likely can resist Demigra's Existence Erasure as Demigra being capable of erasing someone across History to a point where they never existed,along with the whole multiverse. As he fought him in Xenoverse 1.)
Resistance to Dark Ki/Corruption (Dark Ki can Corrupt and control even abstract beings like Janemba and Infinite Zamasu.)
There's a bunch of others, but too lazy to type them as of now.
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