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Posted by KeyFirstnaten (252 posts) 1 month, 4 days ago

Poll: Can Superman statue lightning? (110 votes)

Yes 25%
No 74%
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#1 Posted by cromulor (2392 posts) - - Show Bio

Does it look like a statue in that gif? I didn’t think so

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#2 Posted by ANTHP2000 (27922 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh lord.

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#3 Posted by KingFrieza (1483 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash creates electricity, which was moving faster then superman, and electricity moves quite a bit slower than lightning.

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#4 Edited by BOC (1644 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think anyone claimed he could.

But it looks like he could react to it based on that gif.

Not sure how reliable speed force lightning is tho

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#7 Posted by Wot_m8 (416 posts) - - Show Bio

@boc: A guy literally claims DCEU Superman is Ftl. It was Kakashi vs Superman thread.

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#8 Posted by BOC (1644 posts) - - Show Bio

@wot_m8: Lol. Do you remember their reasoning?

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#9 Posted by Wot_m8 (416 posts) - - Show Bio

@boc: Nope, just a troll. Thread is still up. You should check it out.

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#11 Edited by FullMetalEmprah (4735 posts) - - Show Bio

By the looks of that gif, no. And that's assuming it's natural lightning or the speed of it to begin with.

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He’s definitely not statuing it but if you watch the normal fight he could see the lightning at what like we would see cars on the highway. Meaning that he could still see it coming and react and whatnot if the distance was enough.

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#14 Edited by Mrnoital (8104 posts) - - Show Bio

no, he clearly moves around the speed or bit faster than it, but clearly not statued

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#15 Edited by KeyFirstnaten (252 posts) - - Show Bio

He’s definitely not statuing it but if you watch the normal fight he could see the lightning at what like we would see cars on the highway. Meaning that he could still see it coming and react and whatnot if the distance was enough.

@mrnoital said:

no, he clearly moves around the speed or bit faster than it, but clearly not statued

Movement through air causes friction and Barry being a speedster tends to produce a LOT of friction as he moves at super speed. Thats why he produces electricity, which moves at:

Light travels through empty space at 186,000 miles per second. The electricity which flows through the wires in your homes and appliances travels much slower: only about 1/100 th the speed of light. So 18,600 miles per-second.

But lightning is way faster"

The step leader that initiates the lightning flash propagates downward from the cloud at a rate of about 320,000 ft per second or about 220,000 miles per hour. The return stroke (the current that cause the visible flash) moves upward at a speed of about 320,000,000 ft per second or about 220,000,000 miles per hour (about 1/3 the speed of light).

So Superman isn't fast enough to perceive a lightning bolt from Thor, which means that Thor can one-shot him.

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#16 Posted by BOC (1644 posts) - - Show Bio

This is assuming that speed force lightning/electricity acts the same as real world. You guys are trying to apply real world physics to a fictional 'force'. He clearly generates lightning (as he's known to throw lightning bolts) but that doesn't mean it's the speed of real world lightning. It might be though.

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#17 Posted by KeyFirstnaten (252 posts) - - Show Bio

@boc said:

This is assuming that speed force lightning/electricity acts the same as real world. You guys are trying to apply real world physics to a fictional 'force'. He clearly generates lightning (as he's known to throw lightning bolts) but that doesn't mean it's the speed of real world lightning. It might be though.

There is no reason why it wouldn't.

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@boc said:

This is assuming that speed force lightning/electricity acts the same as real world. You guys are trying to apply real world physics to a fictional 'force'. He clearly generates lightning (as he's known to throw lightning bolts) but that doesn't mean it's the speed of real world lightning. It might be though.

There is no reason why it wouldn't.

There's really no reason it would tbh.

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#20 Posted by MarvelandDCfan24 (7559 posts) - - Show Bio

MCU Cap has better running feats than MCU Thor

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#21 Edited by Supermanthor (20449 posts) - - Show Bio
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#22 Posted by KeyFirstnaten (252 posts) - - Show Bio

@boc said:
@keyfirstnaten said:
@boc said:

This is assuming that speed force lightning/electricity acts the same as real world. You guys are trying to apply real world physics to a fictional 'force'. He clearly generates lightning (as he's known to throw lightning bolts) but that doesn't mean it's the speed of real world lightning. It might be though.

There is no reason why it wouldn't.

There's really no reason it would tbh.

@boc said:

This is assuming that speed force lightning/electricity acts the same as real world. You guys are trying to apply real world physics to a fictional 'force'. He clearly generates lightning (as he's known to throw lightning bolts) but that doesn't mean it's the speed of real world lightning. It might be though.

There is no reason why it wouldn't.

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#23 Posted by Supermanforever (8541 posts) - - Show Bio

@boc said:

I don't think anyone claimed he could.

But it looks like he could react to it based on that gif.

Not sure how reliable speed force lightning is tho

even ww reacted to lightning. Supes cant statue it by feats, but in future he might be faster than what we have seen.

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#27 Posted by IPvMan (866 posts) - - Show Bio

If Diana and Darla can react to lightning, Superman won't have trouble at all. He has speed feats over three times faster than lightning's down stroke. Not sure if he can statue it though since I'm not sure how much faster than lightning he'd have to be for it to appear as a statue. And the electricity coming off the speed force aura is hardly real lightning or can be assumed as such.

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#28 Posted by Richubs (4932 posts) - - Show Bio

@marvelanddcfan24:

LOL he actually does.

Thor wasn't exactly running very fast in the bring me Thanos scene.

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#30 Posted by BOC (1644 posts) - - Show Bio

@boc said:

I don't think anyone claimed he could.

But it looks like he could react to it based on that gif.

Not sure how reliable speed force lightning is tho

even ww reacted to lightning. Supes cant statue it by feats, but in future he might be faster than what we have seen.

Yeah I don't think he could statue lightning, but based on that gif he can react to it. That was his combat speed and even then he looked like he could react to it. His running speed is faster and his flying speed is even faster than that.

I think WW has faster reactions though, based on that whole trained warrior thing.

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#31 Posted by Supermanforever (8541 posts) - - Show Bio

@boc said:
@supermanforever said:
@boc said:

I don't think anyone claimed he could.

But it looks like he could react to it based on that gif.

Not sure how reliable speed force lightning is tho

even ww reacted to lightning. Supes cant statue it by feats, but in future he might be faster than what we have seen.

Yeah I don't think he could statue lightning, but based on that gif he can react to it. That was his combat speed and even then he looked like he could react to it. His running speed is faster and his flying speed is even faster than that.

I think WW has faster reactions though, based on that whole trained warrior thing.

WW is not faster in reaction, ww could not even percieve what was going around when they fought. Its kind of interesting that she cant react to them but reacted to a lightning. Who knows maybe they are faster than lightning, hard to calculate. I think future movies, might make it clearer how fast they are.

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#32 Posted by BOC (1644 posts) - - Show Bio

@boc said:
@supermanforever said:
@boc said:

I don't think anyone claimed he could.

But it looks like he could react to it based on that gif.

Not sure how reliable speed force lightning is tho

even ww reacted to lightning. Supes cant statue it by feats, but in future he might be faster than what we have seen.

Yeah I don't think he could statue lightning, but based on that gif he can react to it. That was his combat speed and even then he looked like he could react to it. His running speed is faster and his flying speed is even faster than that.

I think WW has faster reactions though, based on that whole trained warrior thing.

WW is not faster in reaction, ww could not even perceive what was going around when they fought. Its kind of interesting that she cant react to them but reacted to a lightning. Who knows maybe they are faster than lightning, hard to calculate. I think future movies, might make it clearer how fast they are.

She was in free fall and likely wasn't looking at them. She doesn't have flight so she couldn't have made herself fall faster.

You have to think, time doesn't actually slow down when those characters move fast. If she didn't see them and didn't know to react, it would have only felt like a second to her.

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#33 Posted by Helloman (30115 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe.

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#34 Posted by silentNightz (628 posts) - - Show Bio

Someone clear this up for me: we talking DCEU Superman, or ‘holy crap HE’S coming’ Superman(DC Comics)?

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#35 Posted by Supermanforever (8541 posts) - - Show Bio

@boc said:
@supermanforever said:
@boc said:
@supermanforever said:
@boc said:

I don't think anyone claimed he could.

But it looks like he could react to it based on that gif.

Not sure how reliable speed force lightning is tho

even ww reacted to lightning. Supes cant statue it by feats, but in future he might be faster than what we have seen.

Yeah I don't think he could statue lightning, but based on that gif he can react to it. That was his combat speed and even then he looked like he could react to it. His running speed is faster and his flying speed is even faster than that.

I think WW has faster reactions though, based on that whole trained warrior thing.

WW is not faster in reaction, ww could not even perceive what was going around when they fought. Its kind of interesting that she cant react to them but reacted to a lightning. Who knows maybe they are faster than lightning, hard to calculate. I think future movies, might make it clearer how fast they are.

She was in free fall and likely wasn't looking at them. She doesn't have flight so she couldn't have made herself fall faster.

You have to think, time doesn't actually slow down when those characters move fast. If she didn't see them and didn't know to react, it would have only felt like a second to her.

Im talking about when superman and flash were fighting, they fought for a pretty decent amount of time, yet her perception was not even fast enough to track them. Clearly they were fast enough to be faster than her perception.

Aswell as superman literaly casually blitzed her after that.

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#37 Posted by BOC (1644 posts) - - Show Bio

@boc said:
@supermanforever said:
@boc said:
@supermanforever said:
@boc said:

I don't think anyone claimed he could.

But it looks like he could react to it based on that gif.

Not sure how reliable speed force lightning is tho

even ww reacted to lightning. Supes cant statue it by feats, but in future he might be faster than what we have seen.

Yeah I don't think he could statue lightning, but based on that gif he can react to it. That was his combat speed and even then he looked like he could react to it. His running speed is faster and his flying speed is even faster than that.

I think WW has faster reactions though, based on that whole trained warrior thing.

WW is not faster in reaction, ww could not even perceive what was going around when they fought. Its kind of interesting that she cant react to them but reacted to a lightning. Who knows maybe they are faster than lightning, hard to calculate. I think future movies, might make it clearer how fast they are.

She was in free fall and likely wasn't looking at them. She doesn't have flight so she couldn't have made herself fall faster.

You have to think, time doesn't actually slow down when those characters move fast. If she didn't see them and didn't know to react, it would have only felt like a second to her.

Im talking about when superman and flash were fighting, they fought for a pretty decent amount of time, yet her perception was not even fast enough to track them. Clearly they were fast enough to be faster than her perception.

Aswell as superman literaly casually blitzed her after that.

That's what I'm talking about too. She wasn't looking at them and was in free fall.

I wouldn't say he was out of her perception in the scene where he blocks her bracelet clash. She said she didn't want to fight him and was likely just trying to finish her move. It is a slow move after all.

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#38 Posted by Crunch5481 (1202 posts) - - Show Bio

@crunch5481 said:

He’s definitely not statuing it but if you watch the normal fight he could see the lightning at what like we would see cars on the highway. Meaning that he could still see it coming and react and whatnot if the distance was enough.

@mrnoital said:

no, he clearly moves around the speed or bit faster than it, but clearly not statued

Movement through air causes friction and Barry being a speedster tends to produce a LOT of friction as he moves at super speed. Thats why he produces electricity, which moves at:

Light travels through empty space at 186,000 miles per second. The electricity which flows through the wires in your homes and appliances travels much slower: only about 1/100 th the speed of light. So 18,600 miles per-second.

But lightning is way faster"

The step leader that initiates the lightning flash propagates downward from the cloud at a rate of about 320,000 ft per second or about 220,000 miles per hour. The return stroke (the current that cause the visible flash) moves upward at a speed of about 320,000,000 ft per second or about 220,000,000 miles per hour (about 1/3 the speed of light).

So Superman isn't fast enough to perceive a lightning bolt from Thor, which means that Thor can one-shot him.

Lightning is literally just electricity flowing through air. That's it. There is no distinction. Lightning is a large amount of electricity flowing through air. The amount of electricity flowing however does not impact the speed at which it flows. Your argument is invalid.

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#42 Posted by KeyFirstnaten (252 posts) - - Show Bio

@keyfirstnaten said:
@crunch5481 said:

He’s definitely not statuing it but if you watch the normal fight he could see the lightning at what like we would see cars on the highway. Meaning that he could still see it coming and react and whatnot if the distance was enough.

@mrnoital said:

no, he clearly moves around the speed or bit faster than it, but clearly not statued

Movement through air causes friction and Barry being a speedster tends to produce a LOT of friction as he moves at super speed. Thats why he produces electricity, which moves at:

Light travels through empty space at 186,000 miles per second. The electricity which flows through the wires in your homes and appliances travels much slower: only about 1/100 th the speed of light. So 18,600 miles per-second.

But lightning is way faster"

The step leader that initiates the lightning flash propagates downward from the cloud at a rate of about 320,000 ft per second or about 220,000 miles per hour. The return stroke (the current that cause the visible flash) moves upward at a speed of about 320,000,000 ft per second or about 220,000,000 miles per hour (about 1/3 the speed of light).

So Superman isn't fast enough to perceive a lightning bolt from Thor, which means that Thor can one-shot him.

Lightning is literally just electricity flowing through air. That's it. There is no distinction. Lightning is a large amount of electricity flowing through air. The amount of electricity flowing however does not impact the speed at which it flows. Your argument is invalid.

Both are sparks of electricity created through the attraction of unlike charges. Thedifference is that static electricity creates a small spark, while lightning is a huge spark of electricity. There is a distinction.

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#43 Posted by Crunch5481 (1202 posts) - - Show Bio

@crunch5481 said:
@keyfirstnaten said:
@crunch5481 said:

He’s definitely not statuing it but if you watch the normal fight he could see the lightning at what like we would see cars on the highway. Meaning that he could still see it coming and react and whatnot if the distance was enough.

@mrnoital said:

no, he clearly moves around the speed or bit faster than it, but clearly not statued

Movement through air causes friction and Barry being a speedster tends to produce a LOT of friction as he moves at super speed. Thats why he produces electricity, which moves at:

Light travels through empty space at 186,000 miles per second. The electricity which flows through the wires in your homes and appliances travels much slower: only about 1/100 th the speed of light. So 18,600 miles per-second.

But lightning is way faster"

The step leader that initiates the lightning flash propagates downward from the cloud at a rate of about 320,000 ft per second or about 220,000 miles per hour. The return stroke (the current that cause the visible flash) moves upward at a speed of about 320,000,000 ft per second or about 220,000,000 miles per hour (about 1/3 the speed of light).

So Superman isn't fast enough to perceive a lightning bolt from Thor, which means that Thor can one-shot him.

Lightning is literally just electricity flowing through air. That's it. There is no distinction. Lightning is a large amount of electricity flowing through air. The amount of electricity flowing however does not impact the speed at which it flows. Your argument is invalid.

Both are sparks of electricity created through the attraction of unlike charges. Thedifference is that static electricity creates a small spark, while lightning is a huge spark of electricity. There is a distinction.

And like I just said the amount of electricity doesn't change its speed.

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#44 Posted by KeyFirstnaten (252 posts) - - Show Bio

@keyfirstnaten said:
@crunch5481 said:
@keyfirstnaten said:
@crunch5481 said:

He’s definitely not statuing it but if you watch the normal fight he could see the lightning at what like we would see cars on the highway. Meaning that he could still see it coming and react and whatnot if the distance was enough.

@mrnoital said:

no, he clearly moves around the speed or bit faster than it, but clearly not statued

Movement through air causes friction and Barry being a speedster tends to produce a LOT of friction as he moves at super speed. Thats why he produces electricity, which moves at:

Light travels through empty space at 186,000 miles per second. The electricity which flows through the wires in your homes and appliances travels much slower: only about 1/100 th the speed of light. So 18,600 miles per-second.

But lightning is way faster"

The step leader that initiates the lightning flash propagates downward from the cloud at a rate of about 320,000 ft per second or about 220,000 miles per hour. The return stroke (the current that cause the visible flash) moves upward at a speed of about 320,000,000 ft per second or about 220,000,000 miles per hour (about 1/3 the speed of light).

So Superman isn't fast enough to perceive a lightning bolt from Thor, which means that Thor can one-shot him.

Lightning is literally just electricity flowing through air. That's it. There is no distinction. Lightning is a large amount of electricity flowing through air. The amount of electricity flowing however does not impact the speed at which it flows. Your argument is invalid.

Both are sparks of electricity created through the attraction of unlike charges. Thedifference is that static electricity creates a small spark, while lightning is a huge spark of electricity. There is a distinction.

And like I just said the amount of electricity doesn't change its speed.

The friction created by Flash is smaller and different from the thunder-bolts created by Thor. Flash's eletricity moves a-lot slower than Thor's lightning.

Class dismissed.

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#45 Posted by Brittonic_para (267 posts) - - Show Bio

Guy you literally posted the gif of him not being able to statue lightning.

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#47 Posted by Batman242 (12063 posts) - - Show Bio

Guy you literally posted the gif of him not being able to statue lightning.

You're falling for the bait.

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#48 Posted by Crunch5481 (1202 posts) - - Show Bio

@crunch5481 said:
@keyfirstnaten said:
@crunch5481 said:
@keyfirstnaten said:
@crunch5481 said:

He’s definitely not statuing it but if you watch the normal fight he could see the lightning at what like we would see cars on the highway. Meaning that he could still see it coming and react and whatnot if the distance was enough.

@mrnoital said:

no, he clearly moves around the speed or bit faster than it, but clearly not statued

Movement through air causes friction and Barry being a speedster tends to produce a LOT of friction as he moves at super speed. Thats why he produces electricity, which moves at:

Light travels through empty space at 186,000 miles per second. The electricity which flows through the wires in your homes and appliances travels much slower: only about 1/100 th the speed of light. So 18,600 miles per-second.

But lightning is way faster"

The step leader that initiates the lightning flash propagates downward from the cloud at a rate of about 320,000 ft per second or about 220,000 miles per hour. The return stroke (the current that cause the visible flash) moves upward at a speed of about 320,000,000 ft per second or about 220,000,000 miles per hour (about 1/3 the speed of light).

So Superman isn't fast enough to perceive a lightning bolt from Thor, which means that Thor can one-shot him.

Lightning is literally just electricity flowing through air. That's it. There is no distinction. Lightning is a large amount of electricity flowing through air. The amount of electricity flowing however does not impact the speed at which it flows. Your argument is invalid.

Both are sparks of electricity created through the attraction of unlike charges. Thedifference is that static electricity creates a small spark, while lightning is a huge spark of electricity. There is a distinction.

And like I just said the amount of electricity doesn't change its speed.

The friction created by Flash is smaller and different from the thunder-bolts created by Thor. Flash's eletricity moves a-lot slower than Thor's lightning.

Class dismissed.

"the amount of electricity doesn't change its speed" How many times will I have to say this?

You realize Lightning is generated by static friction in the sky right? How do you even know the electricity on Flash is from static friction anyways??? That's an assumption, a wrong assumption because if it was simply static electricity it would be coming off of Superman too, but it's not. The obvious explanation is that the lightning coming from Flash is from the speed force.

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