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Posted by peypey (57 posts) 2 months, 9 days ago

Poll: Can Stormbreaker kill DCEU Superman? (212 votes)

Yes 77%
It would do a lot of damage 12%
No way 11%

Hmm

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#51 Posted by The_Kidd (12191 posts) - - Show Bio

Not by feats, in theory it might. The only thing it pierced so far is thanos who has no comparable to durability feats as superman.

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#52 Posted by MinlerDemon (242 posts) - - Show Bio
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#53 Edited by Noone1996 (11863 posts) - - Show Bio

Obviously.

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#54 Posted by icec0ld (1320 posts) - - Show Bio

@lamatero:

That's not the same sword. That's godkiller not the sword of Athena.

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#55 Posted by EmmaFrostXmen (2610 posts) - - Show Bio

I think only kryptonite can pierce his skin.

In theory doomsday is just a genetically enhanced kryptonian and his skin could only be pierced by kryptonite

But if I am wrong and if his skin can be cut by non kryptonite items then yes it can kill him

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#56 Edited by Lamatero (135 posts) - - Show Bio

@icec0ld: i not tell it are sword of athena i specify first sword .

sword of athena are weapon of athena at she create unrelated with godkiller.

athena are deity greek or no ? god of greek have magical or no ?

sword of athena are weapon current of wonder woman i know.

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#57 Posted by Laiks Stake (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

With one shot.

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#58 Edited by BOC (1632 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_kidd said:
@supermanforever said:

Not by feats, in theory it might. The only thing it pierced so far is thanos who has no comparable to durability feats as superman.

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#59 Posted by Sargeras (1052 posts) - - Show Bio

Feat-wise:No.

In-universe/theory/speculation:Probably? Bifrost if not deactivated is time is planet-busting, so there's that. Also, Stormbreaker is a magical weapon so it's probable that under the assumption Supes has his magic weakness from the comics, it could kill him.

Endgame will based off the new trailer give Stormbreaker a lot more feats probably, so let's see if it'll get some feats that can kill Supes.

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#60 Posted by macleen (3593 posts) - - Show Bio

It doesn't have the feats

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#61 Posted by maiamaku (1537 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't understand the significance of bifrost in this discussion. Breaking the power source to a weapon that is capable of devastating a planet is not the same thing as overpowering said weapon

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#62 Posted by Red_Ruby_Petal (8239 posts) - - Show Bio

It should cut Superman, but its hard to think it could go as deep as it was to Thanos.

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#63 Posted by arqe (792 posts) - - Show Bio

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@arqe: Do Zod, Supes and Doomsday have the same piercing durabilty?

They are not magically enhanced beings like Asgardians or something. They are naturally become almost immune to anything under yellow sun. This is not magic, this is not some kind of technological advancement. So they all have same durability, same strength only different thing is how much radiation they absorbed from the sun, thats it. In terms of skills, whoever had the most time with powers will overcome others like Superman does. Because he got his power for 30 years and knows how to use them better than others.

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#64 Edited by arqe (792 posts) - - Show Bio

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@chazzer:

It's safe to say that nothing earthly is going to cut either three. They couldn't be pieced by large caliber anti tank rounds that are pointed projectiles designed to puncture armor at a point. The same way a knife punctures skin.

Now they can be cut by other means, the atomizing laser from the kryptonian robot cut Clark if I'm not mistaken.

Special cutting beams, magical weapons, etc could cut them. As for Stormbreaker it would take multiple hits but it could kill him. Thanos is not as durable as Superman he got cut albeit a small one by Ironman after a barrage of missle and punches. Superman took far worse punishment from zod and the kryptonians and didn't even have a bruise on him.

The best gauge to use when answering this question is steppanwolf. Nothing hurt him, nothing even came close to phasing him but for three things, Superman fist, he drew blood from him in one punch. And steppanwolf took on two lanterns, zues and Ares mind you. Aquamans trident and wonderwomans sword. Clearly Superman was able to damage steppanwolf because of his stupid high strength, but the trident and the sword are both enchanted.

I say magic weapons can bypass a characters defenses, what we don't know is what degree

Some correct some false information. Kryptonian robot doesn't have lasers, it did hit Clark's arm and it made a burn mark. He didn't bleed or get any cuts from that. So where is this special cutting beam comes from i don't know. Also that is Kryptonian tech not some random techy device.

Magical swords can cut him since Wonder Woman was able to cut Doomsday.

There is no reason for us to think Stormbreaker would do any damage so we can't say "it would take multiple hits" because it doesn't have any feats that suggests that. Thanos is nothing compared to Superman. Marvel did nerf their big characters so other could have a chance to dance with them. I mean Spider-Man kicking Thanos ? Really ? Hulk is one of the worst Avengers there is. He didn't beat a single important character, only thing he does is just run into fodder and beat em up and after that getting his ass kicked by others. So by feats Steppenwolf is much more durable than Thanos and Superman can make a purple puding out of him. This is how they portrayed those characters on screen, there is no random head cannons that can change this.

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#65 Posted by DavidHarewood14 (1572 posts) - - Show Bio

accidentally voted to no. Obviously kills. But not Doomsday or CW Supes and Kara

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#66 Posted by NWgzsjUwhM96Y2 (4078 posts) - - Show Bio

@red_ruby_petal: Thanos slowed it down with the complete IG tho. And even the spacestone alone made a pseudo black hole that was able to greatly compress solid rock. It should go right through superman.

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#67 Posted by Chazzer (784 posts) - - Show Bio

@arqe: Thanos is nothing compared to Superman.

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Supes was knocked out by a train and slams on the asphalt.

Thanos essentially no sold the necro ship plowing into him and a huge metal structure dropped on his head. Never even being close to knocked out.

-Supes was slightly dazed from WW headbutt. His head was knocked back violently. By feats, she's really not much stronger than Spidey.

Also, you already admitted there are multiple things that can cut Kryptonians. You never really presented any evidence of him repelling a piercing attack from anything other than rocks, various bullets, and building materials. Pretty much the same stuff that bounces off of Hulk. Thanos>>>Hulk.

Where is the high-tier piercing durabilty? What examples are there?

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#68 Posted by arqe (792 posts) - - Show Bio

@chazzer: He got knocked out by 2 other Kryptonians after 10 minutes of fighting. And thats was the only instance that happened. Another Kryptonian. Very specific list of things. Radiation, Magic, Kryptonian stuff thats it. Not random alien, not by an Amazon, not by an Atlantean, not by a New God but by another Kryptonian.

He slightly dazed ? Is that daze ? He just irritated just like Cyborg's shot to his face which he didn't even try to block dodge or anything while he is easily capable of.

What high tier ? What is this high tier pierce ? That blade used on only Thanos which has been cut damaged and dazed by far weaker people than any of the League members.

That blade got 0 feats, stormbreaker got 0 feats. There is nothing to compare. Everyone on Titan was able to do some damage to Thanos. MCU is weak, stop highballing those feats and lowballing DCEU. DCEU characters are more closer to their counterparts on Comics while MCU most of them are much much weaker versions for some reason. And stop using Hulk as an example for striking or durability. He has none. Hulk is the weakest. He got knocked back to Banner multiple times. He just took a beating and couldn't even emerge again. Please stop.

You are using featless weapons and asking for me to provide evidence against durability of those kinds.

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#69 Posted by Chazzer (784 posts) - - Show Bio

@arqe: You're using your headcanon as an argument. Go by what you see onscreen.

Hulk takes everything Supes has taken. Aircraft bullets bounce off, While Namek and Supes got blown off their feet.

Featless weapons made of known materials and capabilities means scaling. Uru hammer and Uru axe/hammer are the same material.

So WW sword can slice off Kryptonian arms but can't cut through Steppenwolf armor. Is that a strong weapon? How is that better than Iron Man's nanoblade?

You're highballing and using your own headcanon when the movies have clearly shown otherwise.

It is all on screen to see. Don't drop in comicbook rules to claim otherwise.

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#70 Edited by MinlerDemon (242 posts) - - Show Bio

@arqe: cut thanos and beam 6 infinity stone >>>>these things.

See the show of face clark painful.

just 1 power stone can destroy planet.

destroy planet >>> nuke .

cyborg beam are freeze beam not a beam laser destroy .

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#71 Posted by eri123 (1218 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes

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#72 Edited by CaptainSweatpan (1498 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk and Superman have similar piercing resistance feats but no one would argue SB couldn't pierce Hulk

SB>>>>>30mm bullets

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#73 Posted by arqe (792 posts) - - Show Bio

@chazzer: Yes Hulk takes everything. Like dropping down from sky and turning back to Banner because of the impact. Getting knocked out by featless Hulkbuster. Getting Knocked out by Thor. Getting his ass kicked from featless first seen on screen Thanos and he can't even come out because he is scared. Yeah Hulk is the best. But he did kick those Chitauri fodder good i'll give you that.

You are still using a single Namek feat from 3 movies ago.

There is not a single Headcanon in my argument. If you are not reading comics between movies, extras that is your problem. Not mine.

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#74 Posted by Chazzer (784 posts) - - Show Bio

@arqe: "Getting knocked out by featless Hulkbuster"

"Getting his ass kicked from featless first seen on screen Thanos"

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-Getting knocked out by a train smashing into you.

-DD got his arm sliced off by a featless sword.

How is that any better?

Well, Namek is dead. What else are we to do. Ignore it? He's still a Kryptonian, right?

Saying Kryptonians can only be hurt by other Kryptonians is self serving, circular logic, i.e. headcanon.

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#75 Posted by Lord_Titan_ (2706 posts) - - Show Bio

Thats like asking if caps shield could kill iron man, of course it can, just depends on how its used

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#76 Posted by DeutschKurzhaar (1429 posts) - - Show Bio

Yup fairly easily

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#78 Posted by RampageTheFirst (7700 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_kidd said:
@supermanforever said:

Not by feats, in theory it might. The only thing it pierced so far is thanos who has no comparable to durability feats as superman.

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#79 Posted by LJayG (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, if it can hit Superman.

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#80 Posted by JaneKiller (36 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes very easily.

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#82 Posted by godzilla44 (7460 posts) - - Show Bio

It would do less damage than what it did with Thanos.

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#83 Edited by MartialArtMastr (24 posts) - - Show Bio

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How can it kill Clark when Thor is getting speed blitzed into utter oblivion?

Okay, for all of you DC fanboys always talking about speed...…….you can not speed through an electrical field. It doesn't matter how fast you move into it you become a contact point, as said above Kryptonians have always been hurt by magic, usually stopping them for at least a few seconds...….then stormbreaker splits his skull open. He could always just LOLOLOLOLOL Bladestorm it, given the thing moves 3X the speed of light.

Also I want you to try something...…..run as fast as you can into a light post and tell me which one takes more damage. I've never, in 29 years of unarmed combat heard anyone say that they thought run speed would win a battle. lol

"What makes me think that ? Hmm, 2 movies about Kryptonians. All about their strengths and weaknesses ? I'm using feats, you are just assuming nanotech can cut through Kryptonians because ? Reasons ?"

Science, his scientific assessment is correct, Superman has molecules, he's an alien, not a god. This is should cut him, maybe not easily, but it will. Not that IronMan could beat supes, he could not.

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#84 Posted by Nervedamage (837 posts) - - Show Bio

Does he have the speed feats to land a clean blow? If not, Thor gets blitzed. If so, then he can pull it off.

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#85 Posted by Nucleon (3483 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: The only thing it pierced so far is thanos who has no comparable to durability feats as superman.

In fact, Stormbreaker never did failed, whereas WW's sword (for exemple) failed, 2 times out of three. Superman's durability feats are way, way less impressive than his strength ones. The nuke? Once deconstructed, the nuke is over-rated, and yet Supes only survived it as a crisp.

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#86 Edited by Ashinlamatensei (93 posts) - - Show Bio

@arqe: cut thanos and beam 6 infinity stone >>>>these things.

See the show of face clark painful.

just 1 power stone can destroy planet.

destroy planet >>> nuke .

cyborg beam are freeze beam not a beam laser destroy .

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@icec0ld: @richubs:@macleen: @rampagethefirst: they see or no ?it cut beam 6 gem damage planet level >>> durability nuclear level .

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#89 Posted by Erick_Williams (1150 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, if only Thor could even see Clark lol

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#90 Posted by Supermanforever (8541 posts) - - Show Bio

@nucleon said:

@supermanforever: The only thing it pierced so far is thanos who has no comparable to durability feats as superman.

In fact, Stormbreaker never did failed, whereas WW's sword (for exemple) failed, 2 times out of three. Superman's durability feats are way, way less impressive than his strength ones. The nuke? Once deconstructed, the nuke is over-rated, and yet Supes only survived it as a crisp.

So because it never failed does mean its all powerfull? Literaly most retarded logic ever. Kinda sums up your debating skills

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#91 Posted by Chad_Duby (5681 posts) - - Show Bio

Definitely. What makes you think it couldn’t? It can activate the Bifrost and if the Bifrost is being opened at Clark for too long....Bye bye, Superman.

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#92 Posted by ourmanuel (11964 posts) - - Show Bio

So because it never failed does mean its all powerfull? Literaly most retarded logic ever. Kinda sums up your debating skills

@bestofthebest damn...

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#93 Posted by Nucleon (3483 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: So because it never failed does mean its all powerfull? Literaly most retarded logic ever. Kinda sums up your debating skills

Cutting Thanos >>>>>> Failing to cut Steppenwolf. That same Steppenwolf that Aquaman's trident pierced, a little. And, eeerrr, let me worry about my debating skills. =)

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#94 Posted by Supermanforever (8541 posts) - - Show Bio

@nucleon said:

@supermanforever: So because it never failed does mean its all powerfull? Literaly most retarded logic ever. Kinda sums up your debating skills

Cutting Thanos >>>>>> Failing to cut Steppenwolf. That same Steppenwolf that Aquaman's trident pierced, a little. And, eeerrr, let me worry about my debating skills. =)

first of all failing to cut steppenwolf is feat for the armor itself not an antifeat for the sword. This is like saying Superman punched Zod hundreds of meters in the air causing massive shockwaves yet failed to kill aquaman with a punch. So aquaman would be automatically more durable than Zod.

Trident already was confirmed in aquaman to be specially atlantean metal. Also it didnt pierce his armor it pierced his shoulder inbetween the plates. Wonder woman also didnt fail to cut his armor. if you actually pay attention and get your facts right, you will see that wolf was bleeding from his stomach.

Also to debunk your shitty statment even further.

Wonder womans sword easily pierced someone who can no sell 50 caliber bullets, yet failed to cut Steppenwolfs armor means that steppenwolfs armor can tank 50 caliber bullets and not be pierced. Which means also that Arthurs trident can pierce something that can withstand 50 caliber bullets.

Then we have thanos that has literaly 0 feats of piercing durability, but im sure you are delusional enough to dream about non existant feats in your head for yourself.

However prove stormbreaker can pierce someone at the level of durability of Superman, or cut your bullcrap out with shitty statments. Ill be waiting for the onscreen feats.

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#95 Edited by Nucleon (3483 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: first of all failing to cut steppenwolf is feat for the armor itself not an antifeat for the sword.

Yeah. Sure. Still no buying it, though.

This is like saying Superman punched Zod hundreds of meters in the air causing massive shockwaves yet failed to kill aquaman with a punch. So aquaman would be automatically more durable than Zod.

Huh? This makes no sense. Supes affected neither Aquaman nor Zod with his punch; Well maybe that's because Supe's striking power may not be as high as you think. If it's not the case, then why did the grenade launcher caused more harm to Aquaman than Supes' strike? I can't wait to hear that.

Trident already was confirmed in aquaman to be specially atlantean metal. Also it didnt pierce his armor it pierced his shoulder inbetween the plates. Wonder woman also didnt fail to cut his armor. if you actually pay attention and get your facts right, you will see that wolf was bleeding from his stomach.

Also to debunk your shitty statment even further.

Wonder womans sword easily pierced someone who can no sell 50 caliber bullets, yet failed to cut Steppenwolfs armor means that steppenwolfs armor can tank 50 caliber bullets and not be pierced. Which means also that Arthurs trident can pierce something that can withstand 50 caliber bullets.

If your bar is .50 bullets, then I fear you are in the shitty little leagues. Nobody serious flaunts resisting .50 bullets. That's pathetic. And even if it was 30mm bullets (probably what you had in mind but you can't easily make the difference, huh?), that's still pathetic. Wake me up for 120mm AP rounds and up.

Then we have thanos that has literaly 0 feats of piercing durability, but im sure you are delusional enough to dream about non existant feats in your head for yourself.

Thanos tanked a massive, spikey starship without a scratch. He took on Iron Man's all out punch with no more than a morning shave cut. Dou you want me to lowball DCEU Supes in the same way? It's not that hard, as you'll see.

However prove stormbreaker can pierce someone at the level of durability of Superman, or cut your bullcrap out with shitty statments. Ill be waiting for the onscreen feats.

For a race that's so hyped, don't you think it's strange that an average of two kryptonians die in every movies they're in? Supes is no longer the standard in terms of durability, mate. There has been water under the bridges since then.

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#96 Posted by Supermanforever (8541 posts) - - Show Bio

@nucleon:

Yeah. Sure. Still no buying it, though.

Listen up everyboyd Nucleon does not agree so it does not count.

Huh? This makes no sense. Supes affected neither Aquaman nor Zod with his punch; Well maybe that's because Supe's striking power may not be as high as you think. If it's not the case, then why did the grenade launcher caused more harm to Aquaman than Supes' strike? I can't wait to hear that.

Lmao i knew you were this bad. Its sad.

If your bar is .50 bullets, then I fear you are in the shitty little leagues. Nobody serious flaunts resisting .50 bullets. That's pathetic. And even if it was 30mm bullets (probably what you had in mind but you can't easily make the difference, huh?), that's still pathetic. Wake me up for 120mm AP rounds and up.

120 ap rounds are not piercing feat. Its straight out explosion feat.

Honestly atleast try.

Thanos tanked a massive, spikey starship without a scratch. He took on Iron Man's all out punch with no more than a morning shave cut. Dou you want me to lowball DCEU Supes in the same way? It's not that hard, as you'll see.

And? can you prove it being more impressive than 50 caliber bullets? Superman is way harder puncher yet it didnt leave a scratch on zod or doomsday even when he was all outing. But iron man cuts thanos, yeah im sure your might be low enough to think iron man punches harder than Superman. Would be very like you.

The only thing not hard to see how bad your debating is, its literaly out of this world.

For a race that's so hyped, don't you think it's strange that an average of two kryptonians die in every movies they're in? Supes is no longer the standard in terms of durability, mate. There has been water under the bridges since then.

So because kryptonians die in every other movie, even though only 1 died by the hands of Superman, the rest were sucked into a singularity and doomsday alongside Superman died in fight because of a kryptonite.

"Supes is not longer standard of durbaility" I never said that. but still you cant prove stormbreaker cutting thanos. You will just keep posting your shitty delusional arguments with 0 backup.

Yeah and still waiting for a feat of why thanos tanks 50 caliber bullets or anything similar.

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#97 Edited by Nucleon (3483 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: Listen up everyboyd Nucleon does not agree so it does not count.

:-D Not bad, not bad.

Lmao i knew you were this bad. Its sad.

Yeah - well, that still doesn't tell me how come the grenade launcher >> Supes' strike.

120 ap rounds are not piercing feat. Its straight out explosion feat.

Honestly atleast try.

Hey dude - Military stuff expert here. Do you know what the "AP" in "120mm AP" means? It means "Armor Piercing", and it's the antithesis of, say, "120mm HE", where "HE" means "High Explosive". Don't venture in domains you don't know sht about.

And? can you prove it being more impressive than 50 caliber bullets?

Damn it buddy - .50 caliber is 12.5mm. That's anti-personal grade, machine gun ammo. Of course getting a starship full of scrap metal in the face is more lethal than .50 bullets. Pretty much everything is. Elevate.

Superman is way harder puncher yet it didnt leave a scratch on zod or doomsday even when he was all outing. But iron man cuts thanos, yeah im sure your might be low enough to think iron man punches harder than Superman. Would be very like you.

There's nothing that tells me Iron Man's punch is inferior to Supes'. In fact, Supes' striking power is usually dwarfed by what we see in the DCU. Normally, when two regular humans strike upon one another with force, they have, like, bruises right? Well, two Kryptonians, it seem, can't hurt each other slamming on one another all day long. That means their strength amp is below their durability's amp - and we all know that this durability ain't the end of the world neither, do we?

The only thing not hard to see how bad your debating is, its literaly out of this world.

So because kryptonians die in every other movie, even though only 1 died by the hands of Superman, the rest were sucked into a singularity and doomsday alongside Superman died in fight because of a kryptonite.

"Supes is not longer standard of durbaility" I never said that. but still you cant prove stormbreaker cutting thanos. You will just keep posting your shitty delusional arguments with 0 backup.

Yeah and still waiting for a feat of why thanos tanks 50 caliber bullets or anything similar.

I am starting wonder if you're worth the effort, to be honest. The last few retorts from your part were particularly infantile, with the insults and kid stuff taking a bigger place than arguments. Straighten up, because I can't be bothered to discuss with challenged interlocutors. I just don't have the patience.

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#98 Edited by Supermanforever (8541 posts) - - Show Bio

@nucleon:

Yeah - well, that still doesn't tell me how come the grenade launcher >> Supes' strike.

Greande launcher superman strike? Superman break mothership half meter think wall with casual tap. grenade launcher is nothing in comparrision.

Hey dude - Military stuff expert here. Do you know what the "AP" in "120mm AP" means? It means "Armor Piercing", and it's the antithesis of, say, "120mm HE", where "HE" means "High Explosive". Don't venture in domains you don't know sht about.

First of all i know what ap means, second of all when did thanos tank anything like that.

Damn it buddy - .50 caliber is 12.5mm. That's anti-personal grade ammo. Of course getting a starship full of scrap metal in the face is more lethal than .50 bullets. Pretty much everything is. Elevate.

Comparing blunt force to piercing. Nice.

There's nothing that tells me Iron Man's punch is inferior to Supes'. In fact, Supes' striking power is usually dwarfed by what we see in the DCU. Normally, when two regular humans strike upon one another with force, they have, like, bruises right? Well, two Kryptonians, it seem, can't hurt each other slamming on one another all day long. That means their strength amp is below their durability's amp - and we all know that this durability ain't the end of the world neither, do we?

Oh you think iron man punches harder than Superman?

Ill stop right here. Please dont tag me again. Literaly no time to waste on a troll

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#99 Edited by Nucleon (3483 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: First of all i know what ap means

No, you didn't as of 20 minutes ago. You are just too insecure to man up and admit it. And that's not the sole domain in which you don't know squat, let me tell you.

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#100 Edited by Supermanforever (8541 posts) - - Show Bio

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@supermanforever: First of all i know what ap means

No, you didn't as of 20 minutes ago. You are just too insecure to man up and admit it. And that's not the sole domain in which you don't know squat, let me tell you.

I know what ap means. Im not insecure, i just dont have time with every stupid troll. I also pretty clearly said i dont have time with something retardation of arguing against that Iron man punches harder than Superman. If you think that, good foryourself. Talking about insecurity and arguing about Iron man punchiing harder than Superman. Cant have more double standards than that.