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#1 Edited by shirso (1432 posts) - - Show Bio
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Can he?

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#3 Posted by deactivated-59dfcb5e372b3 (69 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: Some anime power that affects molecules, Toriko fans think it can work on Odin level opponents

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#4 Posted by shirso (1432 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: A very potent probability cum matter manipulation technique that reverses the behavior of the "majority" atoms in any system.

It can be used to reverse your opponent's physiological processes (lungs start pumping oxygen backwards, blood starts flowing in reverse, etc) for example, and under Midora, it has been used to outright atomize people from existence (as shown in the scan in the OP).

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#5 Posted by omriamar (2145 posts) - - Show Bio

he might be able too but most likely not

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#6 Posted by deactivated-59dfcb5e372b3 (69 posts) - - Show Bio

Hell no

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#8 Edited by shirso (1432 posts) - - Show Bio
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#9 Edited by Easternwind (4390 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, Surfer has much better control over atoms.

He can do much more than Midora, on a much wider scale, and has 100% control over his own molecules.

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#11 Edited by Easternwind (4390 posts) - - Show Bio

@shirso: Just glance at some of my uploaded images, Im in the middle of a surfer CaV, just posted a bunch of feats regarding this stuff.

Anything Midora can do Surfer can do better and faster.

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#12 Posted by juiceboks (21847 posts) - - Show Bio

He'd be atomized but I'm not sure if that'd kill him. IIRC he's been reverted to molecules by Uni-Lord and pulled himself together from that, though that was by brute force rather than strict atomic manipulation.

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#13 Edited by CitizenSurfer (1399 posts) - - Show Bio

He'd be atomized but I'm not sure if that'd kill him. IIRC he's been reverted to molecules by Uni-Lord and pulled himself together from that, though that was by brute force rather than strict atomic manipulation.

He'd be atomized but I'm not sure if that'd kill him.

I'm not too sure that would happen, if you remember; Michael Korvac tried to atomise Silver Surfer with an attack that would "reduce a world to ashes" and Silver Surfer shrugged it off.

IIRC he's been reverted to molecules by Uni-Lord and pulled himself together from that, though that was by brute force rather than strict atomic manipulation.

True. But then you have instances in which Silver Surfer effortlessly reformed himself from snow.

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#14 Edited by TwentyGoodMen (700 posts) - - Show Bio

Minority World is incredibly versatile and can be used defensively to redirect attacks and on oneself to speed up regen, it can also be used to fly too and in an AoE manner either is the user's immediate area or on a large planet level scale

If anyone is interested, go to post 22 here where I present scans that explain the ability it in detail

Anyway, if Surfer has feats of resisting atomic level matter manipulation, then he should be able to counter Minority World

It should be noted though that when used on powerful enough opponents- like Acacia, it won't atomize them, it will just slow them down, change the trajectory of their movements and make them susceptible to getting counter-attacked, so that effect I can easily see happening to Surfer, but not getting his atoms scattered

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#15 Posted by KingSerena (89 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably not but Midora has other ways to kill him.

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#16 Edited by CitizenSurfer (1399 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably not but Midora has other ways to kill him.

Good thing this has nothing to do with Midora's other powers then isn't it....

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#17 Posted by DeathHero61 (15738 posts) - - Show Bio

He'd be atomized but I'm not sure if that'd kill him. IIRC he's been reverted to molecules by Uni-Lord and pulled himself together from that, though that was by brute force rather than strict atomic manipulation.

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#18 Posted by EmperorThanos (11317 posts) - - Show Bio

As others have said. it would work but it won't put him down for good.

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#19 Posted by KingSerena (89 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingserena said:

Probably not but Midora has other ways to kill him.

Good thing this has nothing to do with Midora's other powers then isn't it....

How do you fall for such simple bait?

I'm just pulling your straws man :P

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#20 Posted by jloneblackheart (8485 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer has taken hits from disintegration guns, been cut to pieces with lasers, completely blown to bits and formed himself into snow. He has complete control over his density and his molecular structure. He can phase through objects, change the consistency of his body and shape shift.

Couple this with his own quite impressive matter manipulation and I would say he could resist an attack like this or at minimum reform from it.

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#21 Edited by CitizenSurfer (1399 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingserena said:
@citizensurfer said:
@kingserena said:

Probably not but Midora has other ways to kill him.

Good thing this has nothing to do with Midora's other powers then isn't it....

How do you fall for such simple bait?

I'm just pulling your straws man :P

Except it wasn't a bait though was it.

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#22 Posted by KingSerena (89 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: It wasn't intentional but ended up being worded as one

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#23 Posted by CitizenSurfer (1399 posts) - - Show Bio
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#24 Posted by KingSerena (89 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: It is now.

So, where are you going with this and what are you trying to say?

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#25 Edited by CitizenSurfer (1399 posts) - - Show Bio

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@citizensurfer: It is now.

So, where are you going with this and what are you trying to say?

It is now.

Not really though is it.

So, where are you going with this and what are you trying to say?

Just confirming that you hushed up quickly when someone called you out.

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#26 Edited by KingSerena (89 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: The only thing you proved is that you get salty over Surfer bashing

Also, you "called me out" on a statement that I can easily prove, which is funny, because Midora actually does have several ways to oneshot him other than Minority World. (;

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#27 Posted by CitizenSurfer (1399 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: The only thing you proved is that you get salty over Surfer bashing

Also, you "called me out" on a statement that I can easily prove, which is funny, because Midora actually does have several ways to oneshot him other than Minority World. (;

The only thing you proved is that you get salty over Surfer bashing

You mean I question the word of a new user who doesn't provide any evidence for his comments.

Also, you "called me out" on a statement that I can easily prove

Yet you haven't done so yet.

Which is funny, because Midora actually does have several ways to oneshot him other than Minority World.

By all means, enlighten us.

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#28 Posted by KingSerena (89 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer:

I'm not new.

Proof lies in the fact everyone knows Midora can beat him easily. So logically he would have other ways to kill him.

By punching him in the face until he dies.

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#29 Posted by CitizenSurfer (1399 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer:

I'm not new.

Proof lies in the fact everyone knows Midora can beat him easily. So logically he would have other ways to kill him.

By punching him in the face until he dies.

I'm not new.

Stop acting like you are then.

Proof lies in the fact everyone knows Midora can beat him easily. So logically he would have other ways to kill him.

Solid 13/10 argument mate.

By punching him in the face until he dies.

Solid 13/10 argument mate.

Still waiting for proof.

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#30 Posted by KingSerena (89 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: I'm on mobile right now, can't post scans. Besides, I don't want to derail this thread, we're off-topic.

Bump any existing Midora vs Surfer thread. Tag me and we'll dance there.

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#31 Posted by KingSerena (89 posts) - - Show Bio

I can taste the salt tho

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#32 Posted by CitizenSurfer (1399 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: I'm on mobile right now, can't post scans. Besides, I don't want to derail this thread, we're off-topic.

Bump any existing Midora vs Surfer thread. Tag me and we'll dance there.

I'm on mobile right now, can't post scans.

Yes you can if you have the right browser.

Besides, I don't want to derail this thread, we're off-topic.

No we're not.

Bump any existing Midora vs Surfer thread.

Do it here.

I can taste the salt tho

Why the hell are you licking your monitor?

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#33 Edited by KingSerena (89 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer:

How are you gonna tell me how my phone works? There's no browser where I can post scans. I'll be on a computer in a few minutes so settle down.

The topic is whether Minority World can kill Surfer or not... The answer to that is no. Right now we're "debating" whether he has other ways to kill him. That sounds like the same topic to you?

Ok then. I'll put you to work here.

W O W! G O O D C O M E B A C K B R O!

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#34 Posted by CitizenSurfer (1399 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer:

How are you gonna tell me how my phone works? There's no browser where I can post scans. I'll be on a computer in a few minutes so settle down.

The topic is whether Minority World can kill Surfer or not... The answer to that is no. Right now we're "debating" whether he has other ways to kill him. That sounds like the same topic to you?

Ok then. I'll put you to work here.

W O W! G O O D C O M E B A C K B R O!

How are you gonna tell me how my phone works?

You pick up a few things doing an IT course in college.

There's no browser where I can post scans.

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I'll be on a computer in a few minutes so settle down.

I am settled down, I'm quite comfy.

The topic is whether Minority World can kill Surfer or not... The answer to that is no. Right now we're "debating" whether he has other ways to kill him. That sounds like the same topic to you?

Yes. Actually, because it involves the exact same characters around the same premise.

Ok then. I'll put you to work here.

Already got a job, but thanks for the offer.

W O W! G O O D C O M E B A C K B R O!

Thanks, I worked on it all night.

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#35 Edited by TwentyGoodMen (700 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't get how arguing whether or not a specific power Midora has can affect SS is the same as arguing whether he could kill him in general

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#36 Posted by CitizenSurfer (1399 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't get how arguing whether or not a specific power Midora has can affect SS is the same as arguing whether he could kill him in general

Same difference, same subject, different power.

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#37 Posted by TwentyGoodMen (700 posts) - - Show Bio
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#40 Edited by KingSerena (89 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: Ok. I usually operate from an iMac but I guess I'll have to settle for this HP. Also, before we continue, may I ask that you stop quoting my post 2 times? What's the point of that?

You pick up a few things doing an IT course in college.

It's a shame that course didn't let you pick up any social skills. You can use it if you ever try to pitch a sensible argument.

I am settled down, I'm quite comfy.

Well buckle your seat belt 'cause in for a surprise. Also, >>downloading some random off-brand internet browser because a Surfer fanboy told me to.

Yes. Actually, because it involves the exact same characters around the same premise.

Yet that is not the question that the OP originally posed to us. We are discussing something more or less unrelated to Minority World vs Silver Surfer so we are off-topic. Anyways, back to your original inquiry of asking me to "prove" my statements.

The stat gap between Surfer and Midora is titanic. Even if he can resist the effects of Minority World due to defensive matter manipulation, he can't hurt Midora in any notable way thanks to Gourmet Luck. GL is probability manipulation that borders on reality warping and has allowed Midora to casually redirect attacks with planetary AOE:

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As for how he kills him, Surfer has never taken blunt force striking on the level Midora can dish out. Considering the size of the Toriko planet his punches could bust earth sized planets multiple times over:

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Even when his hand was bitten off he created an explosion of this magnitude:

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Surfer is not walking away from an encounter with Midora with his life. Especially since he has a gargantuan combat speed advantage as well, he runs up and punches him in the face until he dies.

Already got a job, but thanks for the offer.

Stick to that job then because you're not good at this.

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#41 Posted by streak619 (243 posts) - - Show Bio

@easternwind: lol, I agree, there is no way surfer is falling to someone like Midora

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#42 Posted by KingSerena (89 posts) - - Show Bio
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#43 Posted by TwentyGoodMen (700 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll just post this here to get a scale of the planet so

Considering the size of the Toriko planet

This has more weight to it

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#44 Edited by TwentyGoodMen (700 posts) - - Show Bio

@streak619 said:

@easternwind: lol, I agree, there is no way surfer is falling to someone like Midora

Probably not to Minority World, but in general with Midora's stats and other powers this is false

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#45 Posted by streak619 (243 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingserena: I can see your conviction is strong, wanna debate it out?

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#46 Posted by KingSerena (89 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll just post this here to get a scale of the planet so

Considering the size of the Toriko planet

This has more weight to it

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Thank you. And in case someone doubts that, here's an explicit scan that proves the dimension of the Toriko planet:

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Area 7 alone is larger than Earth. Then there's the planet's circumference:

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@citizensurfer Consider this when looking at Midora's feats.

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#47 Posted by EmperorThanos (11317 posts) - - Show Bio

@streak619 said:

@easternwind: lol, I agree, there is no way surfer is falling to someone like Midora

kek

Wait what? This coming from the guy who thinks Naruto and Sasuke can beat surfer?

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#50 Edited by TwentyGoodMen (700 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos said:
@kingserena said:
@streak619 said:

@easternwind: lol, I agree, there is no way surfer is falling to someone like Midora

kek

Wait what? This coming from the guy who thinks Naruto and Sasuke can beat surfer?

Naruto and Sasuke are teambuster level though, the only person who can match them is MCU Cap

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