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Posted by werkudoro (5730 posts) 7 days, 1 hour ago

Poll: Can Fox Prof. X solo MCU Avengers? (51 votes)

Yes absolutely 69%
Absolutely Not 14%
Scarlet witch maybe could counter him if she takes out her full potential 12%
Just want to see the result 6%

Round 1: without Cerebro

Avengers roster:

Everyone from Civil war Airport including Thor, Hulk, Quicksilver and Dr. Strange.

Location: Civil war Airport.

Any win conditions

Team Cap and Team Ironman didn't aware about Charles presence near the Airport.

And he's heavily guarded by Young Magneto, Prime Adamantium Wolverine, Young Storm and Psylocke.

Round 2:

FOX Apocalypse controlling him.

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#1 Posted by Noone1996 (5711 posts) - - Show Bio

None of them have TP resistance.

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#2 Posted by Khael (13106 posts) - - Show Bio

Vision might be a problem since he's an AI.

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#3 Posted by DanielDaRipper (633 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes

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#4 Posted by DammeFavour (3243 posts) - - Show Bio

@khael: vision has an organic brain, its just artificial

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#5 Posted by bowlt_swagg_320 (1803 posts) - - Show Bio

Absolutely

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#6 Posted by SirDrProfessor (1596 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see why not

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#7 Posted by mrmonster (4231 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm pretty sure mind powers would be useless against a being who draws his power from the mind stone.

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#8 Posted by TheSpartanB345T (1220 posts) - - Show Bio

Vision saves them.

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#9 Posted by SupremeGeneration (5743 posts) - - Show Bio

None of them have TP resistance.

MCU Thor has TP resistance, it's just minimal. This was shown in two ways:

  • Wanda's TP didn't affect him immediately.
  • Wanda herself said to Ultron that "some men take longer" to look into their minds (something along those lines), but that in the end they all give in.
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#10 Edited by Chris-Sama (2070 posts) - - Show Bio

Not sure about vision. I know Wanda was able to read his mind, but idk if prof x could outright shut him down.

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#11 Posted by Noone1996 (5711 posts) - - Show Bio

@supremegeneration: Eh I'd barely call that resistance. He resisted for like 5 seconds before he started seeing things.

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#12 Posted by Superhero24 (2658 posts) - - Show Bio

No. He wont be doing much with Vision considering he is an A.I. and has the mind stone. Wanda is also a telepath via magic. Thor also seemed to be confident in his abilities to resist mind control, but I doubt he could withstand X. Iron Man and War Machine have metal helmets on, so they are protected.

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#13 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (8035 posts) - - Show Bio

@superhero24: he'd make it Avengers vs Vision. Vision can't solo the whole team by himself.

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#14 Posted by Chris-Sama (2070 posts) - - Show Bio

@superhero24: he'd make it Avengers vs Vision. Vision can't solo the whole team by himself.

Lol so then he kills prof X?

Nonsense

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#15 Posted by Superhero24 (2658 posts) - - Show Bio

@ready_4_madness said:

@superhero24: he'd make it Avengers vs Vision. Vision can't solo the whole team by himself.

Lol so then he kills prof X?

Nonsense

Exactly. Vision is synthetic. He isnt emotionally like humans, but logical. X would be the first person he kills with his hypersonic beam attack. Iron Man and War Machine have metal helmets protecting them as well.

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#16 Posted by BryanMcClure (94 posts) - - Show Bio

@chris-sama:

Professor X is being protected by some pretty Heavy Hitters I don't think Vision could get past all of them Plus the rest of the Avengers

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#17 Posted by Paytience (2171 posts) - - Show Bio

@khael: vision has an organic brain, its just artificial

And powered by the mind gem. Professor X isn't taking him. Arguable that he could keep them all under ontrol long enough anyway. Presume eventually Thor and Wanda will be disruptive enough to give an opening.

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#18 Posted by Chris-Sama (2070 posts) - - Show Bio

@chris-sama:

Professor X is being protected by some pretty Heavy Hitters I don't think Vision could get past all of them Plus the rest of the Avengers

It doesn't matter whose protecting him, vision phases till he gets to xaviar and kills him

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#19 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (8035 posts) - - Show Bio

@chris-sama: you make it sound like he'd walk through the heavy hitters The Avengers have.

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#20 Posted by Paytience (2171 posts) - - Show Bio

@superhero24: he'd make it Avengers vs Vision. Vision can't solo the whole team by himself.

Maybe not...but he can intangible long enough to get his hands on the professor.
Also, if telepathy in the Foxverse can tehnologically enhanced, there is no reason it cannot be technologically inhibited by Tony. There is also no reason that they couldn't figure out the genetics behind it eventually. Professor X can take the early fight for a while, but the longer this goes on, the harder he is going to lose.

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#21 Posted by Chris-Sama (2070 posts) - - Show Bio

@chris-sama: you make it sound like he'd walk through the heavy hitters The Avengers have.

Lol with his phasing abilities he literally will walk through them.

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#22 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (8035 posts) - - Show Bio

@chris-sama: Hawkeye disagrees

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#23 Posted by Chris-Sama (2070 posts) - - Show Bio
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#24 Posted by ironstorm (38 posts) - - Show Bio

can wanda manipulate vision when he is phased?

If so, X takes over everyone else, and crushes vision using wanda while using stark to find a way to nullify intangibility before leaving the whole team thinking that they are six year old girls.

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#25 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (8035 posts) - - Show Bio

@chris-sama: unfortunately Wanda saves him under the control of Xavier

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#26 Posted by Chris-Sama (2070 posts) - - Show Bio
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#27 Posted by ironstorm (38 posts) - - Show Bio

@ready_4_madness: I agree if she can use tk on vision while he is intangible.

If not, vision may have a chance.

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#28 Posted by solo788 (403 posts) - - Show Bio

Was gonna say if the avengers blitz from the start they may have a chance, but after seeing that x gets bodyguards he wins 10/10.

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#29 Posted by nightmare52 (3399 posts) - - Show Bio

vision and Quicksilver Will be the only problem to professor.

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#30 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (8035 posts) - - Show Bio
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#31 Edited by Ready_4_Madness (8035 posts) - - Show Bio

@chris-sama: yes you're right and I'm wrong

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#32 Posted by Paytience (2171 posts) - - Show Bio

can wanda manipulate vision when he is phased?

If so, X takes over everyone else, and crushes vision using wanda while using stark to find a way to nullify intangibility before leaving the whole team thinking that they are six year old girls.

Wanda is going be the hardest person for the Professor to control outside of Vision though. Focusing entirely on her isn't a good idea.

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#33 Posted by ironstorm (38 posts) - - Show Bio

@paytience: True. He could make everyone else kill each other and then work on her.

How far away is professor X and do the Avengers know where he is?

I am thinking of the scene where X confronted magneto from a nearby car and magneto didn't know where he was.

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#34 Posted by Mutant1230 (1971 posts) - - Show Bio

@khael: vision has an organic brain, its just artificial

Speaking in contradictions is fun. :P

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#35 Edited by DammeFavour (3243 posts) - - Show Bio
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#36 Posted by Jucaslucasa (7540 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, easily.

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#37 Edited by kripanath (148 posts) - - Show Bio

The hulk will jump on them like a bully and easily kill xavier.

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#38 Posted by Khael (13106 posts) - - Show Bio

@DammeFavour: Whose brain is it though? I do agree that Professor X is more powerful than MCU mind gem.

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#39 Posted by Paytience (2171 posts) - - Show Bio

@paytience: True. He could make everyone else kill each other and then work on her.

How far away is professor X and do the Avengers know where he is?

I am thinking of the scene where X confronted magneto from a nearby car and magneto didn't know where he was.

Except he has no way of controlling Vision. There are too many variable he cannot effect to say that the team won't find a way out of his manipulations. And once again...Mind Gem. Vision is pretty much always going to have a way to stop him or a means to free the others. Leaving Wanda out there with him almost guarantees X cannot win this.

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#40 Posted by Chris-Sama (2070 posts) - - Show Bio

@khael said:

@DammeFavour: Whose brain is it though? I do agree that Professor X is more powerful than MCU mind gem.

How so? Xaviar struggles to control some mutants/people while Loki was able to mind control a whole bunch of people at a time?

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#41 Edited by LordOfFate (1187 posts) - - Show Bio

What feats do we have showing that Vision with the Mind Gem can stop Professor X.

I also need to know how Vision is gonna get pass Magneto.

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#42 Posted by Khael (13106 posts) - - Show Bio

@chris-sama: LOL, are you being serious now? Professor X has way better feats than mind gem, heck even the old Charles in Logan movie is stronger.

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#43 Posted by Mutant1230 (1971 posts) - - Show Bio

@mutant1230: what contradiction?

He has an organic brain, it's just artificial. That's like saying I have a real arm but it's also fake.

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#44 Posted by Chris-Sama (2070 posts) - - Show Bio

@khael said:

@chris-sama: LOL, are you being serious now? Professor X has way better feats than mind gem, heck even the old Charles in Logan movie is stronger.

I thought this was young prof X nvm. But he still loses because vision

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#45 Posted by DammeFavour (3243 posts) - - Show Bio

@paytience: I recall cho stating that the mind gem was just a medium to transfer ultron's consciousness into vision's brain, his brain and the gem are independent. From feats, all the gem does is provide power a la arc reactor and provide density stuff, it does not give him resistance to telepathy. Even a low level telepath like wanda was able to read it (that's how she saw ultron's plan)

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#46 Posted by kripanath (148 posts) - - Show Bio

They'll need someone like juggernaut to stop hulk.

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#47 Posted by LordOfFate (1187 posts) - - Show Bio

@chris-sama: What feat does Vision have that proves that he won't be taking over by Professor X.

Hell, the Mind Gem might just float to Professor X...lol

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#48 Edited by Chris-Sama (2070 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordoffate said:

@chris-sama: What feat does Vision have that proves that he won't be taking over by Professor X.

Hell, the Mind Gem might just float to Professor X...lol

as his brain is an artificial brain Prof x wouldn't be able to mind control it, and proof of that was the case he'd mind control the Sentinels in DOFP. But he couldnt. Xavair controls the rest(struggles with hulk Thor quicksilver and Wanda) and vision phases through everyone till he gets to xaviar

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#49 Posted by Khael (13106 posts) - - Show Bio

@kripanath: Juggy would get his head ripped off by Hulk. Charles can just TP him like Wanda did.

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#50 Posted by Paytience (2171 posts) - - Show Bio

@paytience: I recall cho stating that the mind gem was just a medium to transfer ultron's consciousness into vision's brain, his brain and the gem are independent. From feats, all the gem does is provide power a la arc reactor and provide density stuff, it does not give him resistance to telepathy. Even a low level telepath like wanda was able to read it (that's how she saw ultron's plan)

No, she wasn't able to read Ultron because he was artificial. She could read Ultrons plans in Vision because his mind is more organic.