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Posted by Dabalya (189 posts) 3 months, 11 days ago

Poll: Can DCEU SteppenWolf cut MCU Hulk with his axe ? (119 votes)

Axe wouldn't even hurt 13%
Axe would hurt but not cut.Only blunt damage 38%
Axe would cut Hulk but no big damage 25%
Axe would cut Hulk and badly damage him 8%
That hit probably kills Hulks 15%

Assuming Steppenwolf had his best hit on middle of Hulk chest with his axe.What would damage be ?

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#1 Posted by TonyMartial (9239 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, Hulks piercing durability aint the greatest.

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#2 Posted by ThunderPrince (6963 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope, it has no feats of cutting into anyone who can no-sell 25mm rounds. It couldn't even cut through amazons or normal humans in plate armor.

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#3 Posted by Richubs (4174 posts) - - Show Bio

He couldn't really cut clean through Cyborg so I don't think so.

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#4 Posted by GeorgeWBush (11820 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope

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#5 Posted by Emanresu_20 (2832 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably leave a pretty nasty Gash.

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#6 Edited by TonyMartial (9239 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs: And Vic tanked HV and is made out of apokalyptian tech... Not an anti feat at all. He still pierced him.

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#7 Edited by Richubs (4174 posts) - - Show Bio

@tonymartial: Never said its an anti feat its just that Hulk has better feats of durability as of now.

So I don't think he can make a big cut. He should be able to pierce the skin however.

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#8 Edited by Supermanforever (8069 posts) - - Show Bio

Not by feats. By actual feats it would bounce of Hulk

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#9 Posted by CyberpunkCop (3403 posts) - - Show Bio

No chance

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#10 Posted by YOA_501 (685 posts) - - Show Bio

Most likely

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#11 Edited by LeonardSnart (2803 posts) - - Show Bio

@tonymartial: I guess kryptonian piercing resistance feats aren't that great either since Hulk has similar piercing feats to them

Steppenwolf hasn't cut anyone with hulk feats

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#12 Posted by Amcu (16618 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

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#13 Posted by The_Gaurdian (585 posts) - - Show Bio
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By logic and feats for both Steppenwolf would mess Hulk up badly but I'll leave this here since the "Steppenwolf didn't mutilate humans in a PG13 film" arguments are still in play.

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#14 Posted by Gaoron (8747 posts) - - Show Bio

No, it would only push him back but not pierce.

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#15 Posted by LeonardSnart (2803 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_gaurdian: much weaker hulk and feat for abomination, Steppen hasn't cut anything with hulk piercing resistance feats

This is like me posting Doomsday smacking superman 50 feet away and acting like that's proof that Batman can do it too

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#16 Posted by The_Gaurdian (585 posts) - - Show Bio

@leonardsnart: He got stronger but was still visibly pierced by Fenris, who's only piercing feats are against Hulk. Meanwhile we've seen Steppenwolf cut though thick stone and the earth like butter on 3 occasions and put a nasty gash in Cyborg, who can deflect heat vison and take the same explosion that briefly floored Superman.

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#17 Posted by jayc1324 (26422 posts) - - Show Bio

Literally zero feats to suggest so, especially if an AMAZON took it. That thing will bounce off of Hulk

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#18 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7686 posts) - - Show Bio
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#19 Posted by LeonardSnart (2803 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_gaurdian: again, feat for fernis, saying fernis cutting hulk is proof steppen can cut him is like me saying Cap piercing first form Ultron with his shield is proof he can cut doomsday because he was cut by a weapon that has only cut a car and a rock, you have no clue on how to apply ABC logic

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#20 Edited by NWgzsjUwhM96Y2 (3813 posts) - - Show Bio

@plotweapon16255: lol at thinking cutting rock is even comparable to cutting hulk. plus you can see he used its heat to melt it to “cut”. lets assume he cut it. hardness of granite = 850 MPa. Absolute minimum cutting resistance of Hulk’s skin = 11 200 MPa (completely bulletproof against GAU 22/A).

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#21 Posted by macleen (3429 posts) - - Show Bio

Feat-wise and logic-wise, No. But using MCU fan's logic it should.

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#22 Posted by The_Gaurdian (585 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_gaurdian: again, feat for fernis,

His only piercing feat for that matter

saying fernis cutting hulk is proof steppen can cut him is like me saying Cap piercing first form Ultron with his shield is proof he can cut doomsday

The difference being though is that Cap couldn't do that in his dreams because Doomsday's skin wasn't even cracked in the slightest from taking a nuke and a fall to orbit back to back.

because he was cut by a weapon that has only cut a car and a rock, you have no clue on how to apply ABC logic

I'll try and make it easier: Steppenwolf, who had no trouble slicing through thick rocks and Cyborgs armor should have no issue cutting Hulk, who's only piercing resistance feats come from bullets and who's been pierced by 2 people with their only claim to fame being......cutting the Hulk himself.

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#23 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7686 posts) - - Show Bio

@plotweapon16255: lol at thinking cutting rock is even comparable to cutting hulk.

Yep, even high caliber rounds has hard time to do that!

plus you can see he used its heat to melt it to “cut”.

What energy durability has hulk have to suggest he has a chance?

lets assume he cut it. hardness of granite = 850 MPa.

For what thickness 1" or 10"?

Absolute minimum hardness of Hulk’s skin = 11 200 MPa (completely bulletproof against GAU 22/A).

U do know that they aren't impressive especially it has hard time with light armor vehicles!

Penetrating rock is way out of it's league!

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#24 Posted by LeonardSnart (2803 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Posted by LeonardSnart (2803 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_gaurdian: I find it hard to get the motivation to debunk your reaching

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#26 Posted by The_Gaurdian (585 posts) - - Show Bio

@leonardsnart: Lmao there's no reason to be this pressed. We're debating the merits of fictional characters

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#27 Posted by LeonardSnart (2803 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_gaurdian: pressed? Your arguments are a joke bro, we could be debating about Barbies here, that doesn't mean your argument should lack logic

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#28 Posted by Thorthunder98 (6673 posts) - - Show Bio

Naa doesn't have the feats

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#29 Posted by The_Gaurdian (585 posts) - - Show Bio

@leonardsnart: We traded at least 3 posts before you flew off the handle. They're literally not real 😂. The funny part is if you'd have put up a good rebuttal I would've conceded but I guess it's too much to ask for a good debate on a debate forum

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#30 Posted by LeonardSnart (2803 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_gaurdian: flew off the handle...? By saying your arguements are a joke?

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#31 Posted by Morpheus_ (34427 posts) - - Show Bio

Can the 26% that think that the ax not only cuts but outright kills the Hulk in one hit stand up?

This is ridiculous.

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#32 Edited by The_Gaurdian (585 posts) - - Show Bio

@leonardsnart: Yes. The thread isn't even a full page long and we debated for 20 minutes tops and then suddenly I get hit with "you're a joke" for no reason

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#33 Edited by jashro44 (52358 posts) - - Show Bio

Were the amazons wearing armor? Maybe the armor is the reason that one amazon took the hit? Its really weird that the axe wouldn't cleave that amazon in two. I haven't seen wonder woman but I assume the amazons are vulnerable to bullets?

The only other explanation I can think of is that they didn't want to show any gore in justice league.

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#34 Posted by LeonardSnart (2803 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_gaurdian: I said you're a joke cause your arguments clearly are, anyone can debunk what you're saying, your argument has been flawed from your first post and it's gotten worse gradually so I can't find the motivation to debate with someone who has an argument that's literally deteriorating with every post

You should also try not to assume the way people are feeling, your "pressed" and "flew off the handle" remarks couldn't be further from the truth, I called it how I saw it and I saw a joke who for some reason thinks I don't know these characters aren't real

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#35 Posted by ANTHP2000 (26821 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes.

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#36 Posted by ANTHP2000 (26821 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes.

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#37 Posted by The_Gaurdian (585 posts) - - Show Bio

@leonardsnart: Lol there's over a dozen different ways to end a debate you don't want to continue. You could've not replied or simply stated you wanted to discontinue, but you did neither and decided to jump to insults because you can't handle the idea of someone putting up an argument against your precious characters.

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#38 Posted by incursion2 (1925 posts) - - Show Bio

Nah it couldn't even kill Cyborg lol

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#39 Posted by LeonardSnart (2803 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_gaurdian: I literally didn't read your post cause I know it adds nothing to this thread

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#40 Posted by ourmanuel (11368 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

Were the amazons wearing armor? Maybe the armor is the reason that one amazon took the hit? Its really weird that the axe wouldn't cleave that amazon in two. I haven't seen wonder woman but I assume the amazons are vulnerable to bullets?

They should be. Remember how the Germans were killing them with WW2 weapons?

The only other explanation I can think of is that they didn't want to show any gore in justice league.

This is the only logical answer to it.

OT: it’s possible I guess, but by feats?

No

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#41 Posted by jashro44 (52358 posts) - - Show Bio
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#42 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

By feats, no. Everybody who he hit tanked it no problem.

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#43 Edited by Alavanka (2584 posts) - - Show Bio

Cutting rocks doesn't mean you can cut Hulk. It's a silly comparison to make because Hulk has smashed through rocks easily, and will easily smash through the rock that Steppenwolf cut. Steppenwolf didn't even cut that deeply into rock, which is just rock. At best, Steppenwolf only cuts Hulk as deeply as he did into Cyborg, which wasn't that deep at all. At worst he just knocks the Hulk back with blunt force, like Aquaman, WW, or that random fodder human in the gif above.

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#45 Posted by ourmanuel (11368 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@ourmanuel: No. I never saw wonder woman.

Well I guess you’ve heard it now.

The Amazons were getting killed by WW2 era bullets.

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#46 Posted by NWgzsjUwhM96Y2 (3813 posts) - - Show Bio

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@plotweapon16255: lol at thinking cutting rock is even comparable to cutting hulk.

Yep, even high caliber rounds has hard time to do that!

plus you can see he used its heat to melt it to “cut”.

What energy durability has hulk have to suggest he has a chance?

lets assume he cut it. hardness of granite = 850 MPa.

For what thickness 1" or 10"?

Absolute minimum hardness of Hulk’s skin = 11 200 MPa (completely bulletproof against GAU 22/A).

U do know that they aren't impressive especially it has hard time with light armor vehicles!

Penetrating rock is way out of it's league!

You really are a hopeless downplayer. No matter what anyone says you never admit your mistake. I still hape a tiny bit of hope tho.

1- even the smallest rounds can chip and dent rock.

2- to survive an axe that cut like 10000 cm^3 rock ? Practically his every feat.

3- its not dependant on thickness. its not like shearing or tensile failure.

4- they can penetrate 6+ cm of heavy tank armor.

https://youtu.be/HNInGCbDOoA

This is what a .50 cal does to rock. 25mm cannon round is leagues beyond it in every way.

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#47 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

Only trolls would think it would cut Hulk. And people using Abomination and Fenris cutting Hulk doesn't mean Steppenwolf can cut him. If anything that just says Fenris teeth and Abomination's spikes > 25 mm bullets.

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#48 Edited by Matthew660 (1644 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol no, it took Fenris a full force bite to pierce into hulk. And a wolf that size probably has a bite force of many many tons.

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#49 Posted by ourmanuel (11368 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh yeah, I forgot about Ferris and abomination.

yeah, I guess it’s possible that Steppen‘s blade cuts him.

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@darthvaderrocks said:

Only trolls would think it would cut Hulk. And people using Abomination and Fenris cutting Hulk doesn't mean Steppenwolf can cut him. If anything that just says Fenris teeth and Abomination's spikes > 25 mm bullets.

I don't think it's too much to say that the axe could potentially cut Hulk. I mean, it's still a sharp weapon made out of alien metal. But it's a matter of what type of damage. Steppenwolf's best feat of cutting was against Cyborg, and that was a fairly small wound. Cyborg had his back turned to Steppenwolf, and still managed to knock Steppenwolf back.

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Steppenwolf was better off literally just using his hands to pull Cyborg's leg off. This tells us that either Steppenwolf's axe is a massively inefficient weapon and Steppenwolf should have just pulled everyone apart with his bare hands. Or that cyborg's durability is just not up to snuff with the other JL members. Or worse, a combination of the two. For me personally, this scene inspires the 2nd interpretation. I mean if the argument is that armour is what allowed WW, Aquaman, and the Amazonian fodders to tank Steppenwolf's axe, then wouldn't that mean their metals are better than Steppy's? Maybe Apolytik metals seem to have good heat capacities and perform well at higher temperatures, but become brittle at colder temperatures? Might even explain why Steppenwolf's axe could be shattered when Superman froze it.

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