Heaven Ascension DIO had already rekt him.
@pern: Show proof that GER exists outside of logic.
It seems you're making these things up as we go along.
Even after Diavolo killed Gio, GER stopped Diavolo from killing Gio before he even did so. It wasn't true time travel either. Logic such as before and after mean nothing to GER. After Diavolo killed Giorno, Giorno stopped Diavolo before he killed Giorno.
You are making stuff up.
This did not happen, when we see Gio being killed that was just a prediction of Diavolo's powers.
Also, King Crimson cannot interact with anybody during the period where there is no time. What he can do is make predictions and set up his attacks like throwing his blood, get away from their field of vision etc.
Also, GER is not acausal. Never has been, never will be. He got rekt by World Over Heaven Dio.
World Over Heaven Dio is practically a fan fiction character not created by Araki that was handled really poorly. There's 0 reason for him to have lost to Jotaro since he has infinite time stop which Jotaro can't just copy since Time Stops length is capped at 6 seconds max for humans. The game also blatantly ignored how the Jojoverse works by allowing the Corpse Parts to appear in other universes.
Also don't use Puccis reset as a factor at all. Made In Heavens reset doesn't kill anyone. It only replaces people that Pucci killed while Made In Heaven was active. As a result the part 6 team got replaced due to being killed but Emporio stays through the universal reset since he managed to avoid Pucci. There's even a bio about how the reset works in the MIH arc that even directly states that the living move on to the new universe. Giorno would have survived the reset even without GER since Pucci didn't kill him and "alter his fate"
I'm sorry I know this is an old post but GER can't lose.Period. You guys ask for feats yet Giorno had survived 36 universal resets in the span of a second.And in terms of power GER doesn't just explode stuff an be done with it yet rather it controls over cause and effect to an unlimited degree and unlimited range.He is beyond time as He knew what was happening when King Crimson was erasing time.He's beyond Gods shown while facing Over heaven DIO (Araki wrote the story for EOH so this is how he sees GER)who is already beyond multiversal and it able to clash with him but didn't decimate him as Over heaven DIO's stand power is held in its fist meaning he's already beyond the point where re-writing existence can be stopped by GER and have no effect on itself.
Now 2 characters from jojo's that might be abcannotatleast stop Gio is Funny valentine and Johnny Joestar as Funny has Universal collisions and Johnny has his infinite spiral in which I have to say they simply cannot.Johnny can't use the infinite spiral as Gio controls infinity and Funny's D4C won't be of much use since shown by Araki in EOH Giorno is beyond multiversal
Why do people ask "is there anything in fiction that can beat this!!??" as if they know most of fiction? The answer to that ridiculous question is yes. There are tons. 99.9% of the time, there will always be some character out there that will triumph whatever you present (example, suggsverse)
Part 6 proves that GER has limits. For some reason he couldn't stop stairway to heaven. A stand that's below star platinum. We can only assume that it's weaknesses are.
STH was too far for him to stop it or he wasn't aware of the cause of the effect.
If you want an in universe counter tusk act 4 can do it. It literally never stops spinning. This is a rule even GER can't overcome
Giornos hax can't do shit, if he is a much inferior character in raw power.
So from anime or visuel novels:
The hadou gods are walking conceptual beings, that are the embodiment of a multiverse. Even a hadou god with one taikyokou can manipulate a infinite baseline multiverse, which is already way too much for the universal GER. Reinhard, Ren & Mercurius all have 90 Taikyokou, which would scale them to 90+ infinite baseline multiversal, because a hadou god with one taikyokou can manipulate the whole creation. That would make the hadou gods 5-dimensional by comparison. So, you want to argue about that? 90+ infinite baseline multiversal (hadou gods) and 5-dimensional vs universal and 3-dimensional?? No, good. I don't even beginning with Hajun.
Sometimes a stomp is so big, that you can not really summarize it.
Yeah, he is massivly wanked and maybe the most wanked character of all time, but he still has great power. He blinked Nyarlathotep. Who is Nyarlathotep? She is responsible for the creation of the klein bottle, which was a endless chain of universes. With that, Nyarlathotep is baseline multiversal and 5-dimensional by comparison. Way above GER already, that best feats were universal. Elder god Demonbane blinked at her and she died over 400.000.000 times in a nanosecond, which would make elder god demonbane way above infinite baseline multiversal. GER's best feats, like I said, were just universal at all.
Even the lower beings in Umineko can beat GER with ease, but I just take the voyager witches. Under normal conditions, the voyager witches would consider Elder god Demonbane & the Hadou gods as a infinite small bacteria. While Demonbane & hadou gods transcends are exist on a higher dimensions and transcend the concept of FINITE dimensions and LOWER dimensions, they come not near to infinite-dimensional at all. Bernkastel & Lambdadelta exist in a place called ''witch domain'', which has countless layers of infinite-dimensional multiverses (which is far greater then baseline multiversal), which would make them even double infinite-dimensional. So, double infinite-dimensional vs universal, huh? The fight starts: GER is blinked out of existence.
Pre-Retcon Beyonder is the embodiment of a realm, which is made of infinite-dimensional energy. He was million times more powerful then infinite-D:
And alone with this two feats, he is like infinite layers of infinite above the universal layer. He stomps.
Alone with the current marvel cosmology, the marvel multiverse is a infinite baseline multiverse, which would make the living tribunal far greater then universal, because the living tribinal is the judge of all realities, which includes the infinite baseline multiverse. He stomps.
I could continue, but this would take me forever.
I would like to remind youm that my mentioned characters are far beyond the universal level, which makes it to a stomp stomp against Giorno, since his best feats consisted only of overcoming deleted time in a universe and destroying the universe. Nothing to the characters I mentioned.
GER is a street-level stand.
Anyone city+ would shred him, along with the rest of JoJo.
Inb4 “universal GER”.
You know that Pucchi with Made in Heaven reset entire universe?Valantine with Love Train manipulated fate of entire world(taking all misfortune from his country and giving it to other nations). Jojo is far from street level.But i agree that GER is far from being universal.
In anime, manga and light novels etc there are plenty of characters that break the 4th wall, are gag centered, are multi-dimensional gods or have other types of powers that can stop Gold Experience Requiem. Some Isekai characters like Naofumi and Rimuru are a recent example where at the climax of their story they become multi-dimensional entities that can store many of their existences in pocket universes and control what is happening.
This is getting absurd.
1. Jojo series isn't the first nor only series that has time manipulation. So how exactly does that make one universal?
2. Gold Requim basically nullifies powers. Good, but still not the first character in fiction to do so.
3. In other to send you into the infinite death loop, it needs to be able to kill you. Jojo humans have human bodies and are easily killed by punches by stands. Based on how Diavolo was killed, I doubt GER can put Immortals or characters that have regeneration into the infinite death loop.
4. GER didn't reverse Pucci's universe resetting. So what makes people think it cannot be beat by the lucifer Morningstar and Beyonder?
I doubt understand how this whole talk of being above logic and stuff came into play. We saw World Over Heaven beat him, so I am sure even mere reality warpers take over GER from GioGio
Hulk has never punched an anime character, so I guess he can't.
What kind of logic is this? Giorno is a normal human with normal proportions and his stand ability of nullification is specifically effective against stand users.
What? He could nullify a gamma burst, as that's the basis of his power, but I claimed that he would nullify any will to attack him at all. If he doesn't have the will to harm him, then he won't and no gamma burst will ever be used.
Gamma burst isn't a stand based ability. Giorno can probably beat Hulk if he manages to hit him, but that's a big if considering WBH was projecting enough gamma radiation to sink entire continent. Sure, he can use his healing/life creation to affect people but his nullification has only been used against stand and its ability. You're just speculating. No tangibles, no argument.
To the same degree, there's nothing to suggest that it only works on Stands. It completely contradicts how they work in the series, especially considering the fact that he has literally used the ability on people before.
It doesn't contradict aynthing. Giorno's life creation and healing can be used on people. His ability of power nullification only works against stand based abilities. This is really easy and simple to get. He can't reverse global events as seen in Stone Ocean. So, he ain't doing shit if Hulk decides to destroy planet.
If you haven't seen or read JoJo enough to know these things, you might want to refrain from making easily refutable and ignorant claims regarding the series and its characters.
I read Jojo. Thanks.
GER is (for the most part) completely untouchable against causal beings, with some notable exceptions; exceptions include if it's beyond a 3-D being, has a special counter to its ability (stronger Causality Manipulation, Logic Manipulation, that stuff), or has a speed of Immeasurable and beyond. If it is acausal, Zero-Reset has no effect on the individual, and if it can bypass GER's already existing physical strength, speed, and Life Manipulation abilities from its previous stage, then this hypothetical opponent will defeat Giorno.
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