Can anyone beat Gold Experience Requiem?

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#54  Edited By Giorno_Giovanna

@wench_jewun said:

@giorno_giovanna said:

To the people saying Gold Experience Requiem caps out at universal, you are completely misunderstanding its ability. Range is meaningless to it. Its stats even say none meaning everything is irrelevant to it. Consider it to be transfinite. Its an acausal being that was even completely unaffected by the erasure of time. To beat GER you would need to be acausal and transfinite in all categories. Simply being able to destroy multiverses and what not wouldn't work. You would have to be able to counter the conceptual hax that is GER. Its not something you can overcome with sheer force. Reality warping itself wouldn't do anything either, because GER exists outside of reality, and can prevent you from taking action in the first place.

no limits fallacy.

This is why CV focuses on feats. If you just use logical statements and play them out to their ultimate conclusion, we can say for example: Batman with prep can beat anyone, when we know that simply isn't true.

GER's stats themselves say that concepts such as speed and range are meaningless to it. It's transfinite. It also affected an acausal being. To beat GER you have to be transfinite and acausal.

GER is omnilocked. That fact alone means very few beings will be able to affect it.

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I don't know who the bottom person is, but Othinus can't touch GER. Othinus can only control the universe. She can't affect omnilocked beings.

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Honestly, the Infinity Gauntlet can do exactly the same that is shown in that description.

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@giorno_giovanna: 100% Othinus is multiversal level and White Queen is beyond 100% Othinus.GER best feat is only universe level while the two women are way above that.

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@giorno_giovanna: 100% Othinus is multiversal level and White Queen is beyond 100% Othinus.GER best feat is only universe level while the two women are way above that.

Range is meaningless to GER. It's stats even say so. Being multiversal or above doesn't mean anything to it. GER is omnilocked, meaning it exists outside of everything. It was even able to affect another acausal being.

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@homicidalmaniac said:

@giorno_giovanna: 100% Othinus is multiversal level and White Queen is beyond 100% Othinus.GER best feat is only universe level while the two women are way above that.

Range is meaningless to GER. It's stats even say so. Being multiversal or above doesn't mean anything to it. GER is omnilocked, meaning it exists outside of everything. It was even able to affect another acausal being.

He is basically in the state of "nothingness".

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@homicidalmaniac said:

@giorno_giovanna: 100% Othinus is multiversal level and White Queen is beyond 100% Othinus.GER best feat is only universe level while the two women are way above that.

Range is meaningless to GER. It's stats even say so. Being multiversal or above doesn't mean anything to it. GER is omnilocked, meaning it exists outside of everything. It was even able to affect another acausal being.

That a NFL,his best feat mainly universe level and that it.

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@realitywarper: What is with all these neck resistance jokes? I feel like I'm missing out.

That's because one user (SodamYat) asked for "neck resistance feats" in a battle thread of "World Breaker Hulk Vs Wonder Woman" because she has a sword that can cut through anything but she has no feats beheading people. So he was mocked a bit. ^^

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@giorno_giovanna said:

@homicidalmaniac said:

@giorno_giovanna: 100% Othinus is multiversal level and White Queen is beyond 100% Othinus.GER best feat is only universe level while the two women are way above that.

Range is meaningless to GER. It's stats even say so. Being multiversal or above doesn't mean anything to it. GER is omnilocked, meaning it exists outside of everything. It was even able to affect another acausal being.

That a NFL,his best feat mainly universe level and that it.

Hows it NLF when the stats say range is meaningless to it?

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@realitywarper: What is with all these neck resistance jokes? I feel like I'm missing out.

That's because one user (SodamYat) asked for "neck resistance feats" in a battle thread of "World Breaker Hulk Vs Wonder Woman" because she has a sword that can cut through anything but she has no feats beheading people. So he was mocked a bit. ^^

Thank you. I'm so gonna overuse that.

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@giorno_giovanna said:

@homicidalmaniac said:

@giorno_giovanna said:

@homicidalmaniac said:

@giorno_giovanna: 100% Othinus is multiversal level and White Queen is beyond 100% Othinus.GER best feat is only universe level while the two women are way above that.

Range is meaningless to GER. It's stats even say so. Being multiversal or above doesn't mean anything to it. GER is omnilocked, meaning it exists outside of everything. It was even able to affect another acausal being.

That a NFL,his best feat mainly universe level and that it.

Hows it NLF when the stats say range is meaningless to it?

A single universe doesn't compare to a whole multiverse which consist of infinite universes.GER is a NLF to some people and GER need to show better feats that surpass universe level.

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@realitywarper said:

@darthaznable said:

@realitywarper: What is with all these neck resistance jokes? I feel like I'm missing out.

That's because one user (SodamYat) asked for "neck resistance feats" in a battle thread of "World Breaker Hulk Vs Wonder Woman" because she has a sword that can cut through anything but she has no feats beheading people. So he was mocked a bit. ^^

Thank you. I'm so gonna overuse that.

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@giorno_giovanna said:

@homicidalmaniac said:

@giorno_giovanna said:

@homicidalmaniac said:

@giorno_giovanna: 100% Othinus is multiversal level and White Queen is beyond 100% Othinus.GER best feat is only universe level while the two women are way above that.

Range is meaningless to GER. It's stats even say so. Being multiversal or above doesn't mean anything to it. GER is omnilocked, meaning it exists outside of everything. It was even able to affect another acausal being.

That a NFL,his best feat mainly universe level and that it.

Hows it NLF when the stats say range is meaningless to it?

A single universe doesn't compare to a whole multiverse which consist of infinite universes.GER is a NLF to some people and GER need to show better feats that surpass universe level.

Stats created by the author himself are analogous to feats. When the author's stats say that range is meaningless to GER, it's meaningless. Being multiversal isn't enough to beat GER because GER is beyond the concept of range and multiversals.

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*Sigh* So we got more GER ignorance here eh?

1.Gio is certainly omnilocked bypassing fate and probability yeah chronolock does that oh wait it doesn't.

2.GER as said by Gio up above saying Multiversal>GER is NLF in itself claiming it wins because of bigger range is an NLF but then you turn around and say GER is an NLF.

3.Blatantly ignoring the stat page doesn't help the cause either range and everything else is listed as none.

To say GER would be beaten by a multiversal as said above is an NLF plain and simple his powers are not destructive they don't destroy anything.

Again any questions i'd be happy to answer.

And yeah GER lacks feats but in that one fight he controlled the very essence of death itself. His stand in base and GER both control life to some degree karma manipulation see Leaky Eye Luka not to mention casualty probability and fate bypassing with relative ease. Understood Diavolo erased time that's nice GER still is above such concepts such as time death life etc. I'd highly suggest looking at the stat page.

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Stats don't lie bros.

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Enrico Pucci's Stairway to Heaven.

Also Burning Down the House shares the stats of GER's incredible value of NONE, must be Godly too.

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Tim Duncan can beat him

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#83  Edited By pern

People who are saying being multiversal can overcome GER are greatly lowballing GER.

GER's ability doesn't cap out at universal. In fact, it even affected an acausal being (Diavolo). Acausal beings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiversal beings. An acausal being is completely outside of time, space, reality, the universe, the multiverse, etc. A multiverse destroying attack or a multiversal reality warping attack wouldn't do anything against a being that already operates outside of it all. Any being that operates on time is already at a disadvantage against GER. GER operates outside of time, meaning even after you hit it, GER can prevent you from ever hitting it before you even do so. So multiverse busting attacks and reality warping attacks are going to be useless against GER.

To beat GER you have to:

- Be acausal

- Be able to beat beings who can beat acausal beings

- Be unaffected by time or the lack of

- Operate outside of space, time, reality etc.

- Have infinite range, speed, and power

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@sophia89 said:

@andr413 said:

LORD ITACHI TOTSUKA BLITZ

This also 9D Aizen soul crushes.

GER is overrated.

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Holy Ship Many people overrate golden experience requiem here..

GER Ability to turn anything into 0 is a No Limits Fallacy

IIRC even gio said GER had limits

Beyonder would beat GER (slighty angry beyonder>>billions of universes)

Demi fiend would beat him (created just to beat these kind of beings)

Hakurei Reimu would beat him (Fighting megaversal+ beings since the age of 8 AND omnilock)

Enrico Pucci would beat him (stairway to heaven is too much hax)

WF Mxy would beat him (getting out of the comic book AND trolling the dc staff while changing storylines)

Demonbane characters would beat him (beyond omnipotent BS)

Suggsverse characters would rape him (low tier destroying transinfinite omniverses by blinking while holding back)

The list goes on GER is very overrated

(Dont you dare show me that stat sheet ive seen it a bazillion of times)

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Holy Ship Many people overrate golden experience requiem here..

GER Ability to turn anything into 0 is a No Limits Fallacy

IIRC even gio said GER had limits

Beyonder would beat GER (slighty angry beyonder>>billions of universes)

Demi fiend would beat him (created just to beat these kind of beings)

Hakurei Reimu would beat him (Fighting megaversal+ beings since the age of 8 AND omnilock)

Enrico Pucci would beat him (stairway to heaven is too much hax)

WF Mxy would beat him (getting out of the comic book AND trolling the dc staff while changing storylines)

Demonbane characters would beat him (beyond omnipotent BS)

Suggsverse characters would rape him (low tier destroying transinfinite omniverses by blinking while holding back)

The list goes on GER is very overrated

(Dont you dare show me that stat sheet ive seen it a bazillion of times)

First of all, Gio never said GER had limits, he said he didn't know the limits of GER. Second of all, it's not a no limits fallacy because GER was able to zero out a chronolocked acausal being. Anyone above that can resist GER. Being multiversal or whatever wouldn't help against a being that is chronolocked and can beat other chronolocked beings.

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@pern: Oh ok sorry for the error of gio saying that GER has limits

also im sure the characters i listed would beat GER

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@pern: Oh ok sorry for the error of gio saying that GER has limits

also im sure the characters i listed would beat GER

Enrico wouldn't and I don't know who Hakurei is, but the rest probably could.

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@pern: Why couldnt pucci do it i think made in heaven lets you reset all Creation

also Hakurei is from a japanese bullet hell game named touhou (extremly well known in japan not so much in west)

her verse is number 3 in my Overpowered verse list and hakurei has a Absurd win historial including

vampire who can manipulate the future

vampire who can destroy everything

ghost princess that can kill everything with a tought

God (she was fouling around but still impresive)

Lunar princess who can manipulate eternity and instant and is absolutely inmortal

Absoulutely inmortal human who can manipulate fire

the judge of the dead who is always stronger that his opponent

the grim reaper who can manipulate distanc3

Demon who can manipulate density on PR MM level

2 Outside world Gods

jesus with infinite speed strenght durability etc

Outer alien who can make anything Undefined

Tanuki Who can change everything

Ancient prince who is omniscient

Mindless girl who can manipulate the subconscious

and many more (each one here while holding back could 1 shot galactus)

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@pern: Why couldnt pucci do it i think made in heaven lets you reset all Creation

also Hakurei is from a japanese bullet hell game named touhou (extremly well known in japan not so much in west)

her verse is number 3 in my Overpowered verse list and hakurei has a Absurd win historial including

vampire who can manipulate the future

vampire who can destroy everything

ghost princess that can kill everything with a tought

God (she was fouling around but still impresive)

Lunar princess who can manipulate eternity and instant and is absolutely inmortal

Absoulutely inmortal human who can manipulate fire

the judge of the dead who is always stronger that his opponent

the grim reaper who can manipulate distanc3

Demon who can manipulate density on PR MM level

2 Outside world Gods

jesus with infinite speed strenght durability etc

Outer alien who can make anything Undefined

Tanuki Who can change everything

Ancient prince who is omniscient

Mindless girl who can manipulate the subconscious

and many more (each one here while holding back could 1 shot galactus)

Because GER operates outside of creation and could reset Enrico's reset. It is unknown whether Giorno survived Pucci's reset or not, so it shouldn't be used as evidence to downplay GER.

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@pern: Should that be used as a feat to show that even GER has limits?

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#93  Edited By pern

@homicidalmaniac said:

@giorno_giovanna said:

@homicidalmaniac said:

@giorno_giovanna: 100% Othinus is multiversal level and White Queen is beyond 100% Othinus.GER best feat is only universe level while the two women are way above that.

Range is meaningless to GER. It's stats even say so. Being multiversal or above doesn't mean anything to it. GER is omnilocked, meaning it exists outside of everything. It was even able to affect another acausal being.

That a NFL,his best feat mainly universe level and that it.

No GER's best feat isn't universe level. GER and Diavolo were both in non existent time. Beyond the universe and beyond the multiverse. They were chronolocked, meaning outside of space and time. Multiversal power alone isn't enough to beat an acausal being. A multiversal blast wouldn't even kill Diavolo, let alone GER.

@pern: Should that be used as a feat to show that even GER has limits?

No because it's unknown if Pucci's reset killed GER.

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@pern: Ummmm some of the ones crossed out are stronger than ones you left on... LOL.

And The last three were obviously jokes.

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@pern: Ummmm some of the ones crossed out are stronger than ones you left on... LOL.

And The last three were obviously jokes.

I think you mean PR MM? PR MM has never shown to affect a chronolocked being. The ones that aren't scratched off could possibly be chronolocked themselves so they might be able to beat GER.

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@pern said:

@homicidalmaniac said:

@giorno_giovanna said:

@homicidalmaniac said:

@giorno_giovanna: 100% Othinus is multiversal level and White Queen is beyond 100% Othinus.GER best feat is only universe level while the two women are way above that.

Range is meaningless to GER. It's stats even say so. Being multiversal or above doesn't mean anything to it. GER is omnilocked, meaning it exists outside of everything. It was even able to affect another acausal being.

That a NFL,his best feat mainly universe level and that it.

No GER's best feat isn't universe level. GER and Diavolo were both in non existent time. Beyond the universe and beyond the multiverse. They were chronolocked, meaning outside of space and time. Multiversal power alone isn't enough to beat an acausal being. A multiversal blast wouldn't even kill Diavolo, let alone GER.

Existing outside space and time doesn't always equal being above multiverse level.Scans of multiverse blast?