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#101 Posted by cromulor (2222 posts) - - Show Bio

Super Saiyan Cabba was losing badly to Monna and Super Saiyan 2 Cabba still had difficulty beating her. Base Vegeta fired a single blast at her and she was almost eliminated then and there.

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#102 Posted by DarkRoseIronAvenger (2624 posts) - - Show Bio

What is this how in the world does anyone believe the skinny bdsm loving cabba would loose to broly.

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#103 Posted by AlexTheBoss (17435 posts) - - Show Bio

What is this how in the world does anyone believe the skinny bdsm loving cabba would loose to broly.

Because he's a chump.

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#104 Edited by MainJP (5915 posts) - - Show Bio

Broly snaps him like the anorexic twig he is.

@darkroseironavenger said:

What is this how in the world does anyone believe the skinny BDSM loving Cabba would lose to Broly.

LMAO

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#105 Posted by SuperGoku17 (7220 posts) - - Show Bio

Cabba stomps

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#106 Posted by DarkRoseIronAvenger (2624 posts) - - Show Bio
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#107 Posted by deactivated-5b728068f211c (7069 posts) - - Show Bio

Broly.

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#108 Edited by Ricky33 (21 posts) - - Show Bio

Akira Toriyama just made lssj Broly canon. LSSj is now canon even if it's called super saiyan full power. Super saiyan full power = true super saiyan = legendary super saiyan. Canon LSSJ >>SSB >>SSJ3>>>>>SSJ2>SSJ1. If you think ssj Cabba is stronger than a u7 ssj2, anyone at lssj level including old Broly will godstomp Cabba to the fullest.

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#109 Posted by MainJP (5915 posts) - - Show Bio

@ricky33:

That’s not how it works, we go by the versions used in the OP at the time of the thread’s creation. That means you go by old Broli’s showings.

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#110 Posted by AlexTheBoss (17435 posts) - - Show Bio

base Cabba<DBZ Broly<ssj Cabba<<<<<DBS Broly

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#111 Posted by silvanus (902 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: Probably need a lot more < between SSJ Cabba and DBS Broly.

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#112 Posted by PanzerX (479 posts) - - Show Bio

Cabba should honestly stomp.

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#113 Posted by MainJP (5915 posts) - - Show Bio

@silvanus: That’s not necessary.

Cabba should clap old Broli.

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#114 Edited by Ricky33 (21 posts) - - Show Bio

Old Lssj Broly is still a lssj. So how can a regular ssj beat an lssj? You guys just hating on old Broly for no reasons. Old Broly is universal threat. Ssj Cabba is not even a solar system threat.

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#115 Posted by Karkus (689 posts) - - Show Bio

@ricky33: Old Broly is Universe level through statements that he would destroy the Universe over an unknown period of time. Similar statements were made about Cell.

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Ssj Cabba is not even a solar system threat.

Very debatable. Cell stated he could bust a Solar System, but take that as you will.

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#116 Posted by Ricky33 (21 posts) - - Show Bio

@karkus The statement was made by King Kai himslef. He knew better. And Broly was already doing work, since he destroyed the South Galaxy. Cell said he could bust a solar system. Destroying a galaxy >>> solar system buster . Lssj Broly was stated by Takao Koyama to be the strongest character he created. Producer statement >> your opinion. Canon lssj is stronger than ssj. non canon lssj > non canon ssj. non cano lssj >>>>> canon ssj.

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#117 Posted by Karkus (689 posts) - - Show Bio

@ricky33:

Lssj Broly was stated by Takao Koyama to be the strongest character he created.

But what characters has he created?

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#118 Posted by AlexTheBoss (17435 posts) - - Show Bio

@ricky33: The old Broly was probably around majin Buu level based on how well he didn't against the Z fighters of the time, so that should be above base Cabba imo, but ssj Cabba is questionable. Imo ssj Cabba is stronger than U6 arc base Goku and Vegeta, and both of them are stronger than old ssj3 and buu, so ssj Cabba should be as well. In the manga ssj Caulifla pushed Frieza to golden mode and ssj Cabba and Caulifla were fighting golden Frieza, though he was stomping them, but that should still be enough to at least put him around old Broly with his ssj.

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#119 Posted by Jack_Hart (858 posts) - - Show Bio

Cabba stomps.

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#120 Posted by Ricky33 (21 posts) - - Show Bio

You guys have no idea of power scaling. Cabba doesn't stomp he get stomped. Even Goten or Trunk could stomp him. He is not a ssj2 level. Anyone at ssj2 level even from the buu arc should stomp him. That purple base Vegeta fighting Gotenks was pure filler.

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#121 Posted by Ricky33 (21 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alextheboss I don't buy this god ki thing for base Goku and Vegeta. Why did Base Goku had struggle fighting Freeza final form? Freeza doesn't have god ki. And Freeza is also stronger than frost, who is stronger than Cabba.

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#122 Posted by AlexTheBoss (17435 posts) - - Show Bio

@ricky33: I don't think base Goku and Vegeta are using god ki, when they use god ki they become SSG. However after experiencing god ki and training with Whis their base form is now on a new level.

And yes, Frost is stronger than base Cabba, but ssj Cabba is stronger than Frost. If we go by the manga, ssj Cabba seems to be around final form Frieza level, as final form Frieza seemed slightly weaker than ssj Caulifla, and Cabba is slightly weaker than Caulifla.

It was implied final form Frieza was going to become strong enough to beat Goku, who he knew beat majin Buu, so by that logic ssj Cabba should probably be stronger than ssj3 Goku from the Buu arc.

Frieza going golden against ssj2 Cabba in the anime backs up Cabba being relatively strong as well. So based off all of that I think it should go

base Cabba<DBZ Broly<ssj3 Goku (buu saga)<ssj Cabba<=>final form Frieza<current ssj Goku<Golden Frieza<DBS Broly

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#123 Edited by Ricky33 (21 posts) - - Show Bio

You can't compare DBZ Broly to SSJ3 Goku. SSJ3 Goku is at best solar system buster, while Broly who destroy a galaxy can be said to be multi solar buster. My point is DBZ Broly is non canon, now his canon version has been released. And Akira Toriyama is showing us that canon lssj >> canon ssj3. This means that anyone at lssj level is stronger than ssj3. That's fact coming from the movie. Lssj is stronger. Also base Goku didn't get that much stronger, he was struggling with Base Gohan who stopped training for years

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#124 Posted by Karkus (689 posts) - - Show Bio

@ricky33:

SSJ3 Goku is at best solar system buster

At best he'd be above that, given how Cell was a Solar System buster.

Also base Goku didn't get that much stronger

He did. Base Copy Vegeta stomped SSJ3 Gotenks and Base Goku competed with Fit Buu.

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#125 Posted by LPercepts (556 posts) - - Show Bio

Broly should win both rounds.

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#126 Posted by Ricky33 (21 posts) - - Show Bio

@Karkus If base Goku grew stronger, why did he struggle against the wolves from U11, while Buu beat one of them effortlessly?

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#127 Posted by zill0678 (2389 posts) - - Show Bio

Broly. i tend when it comes to super to take the ToP as gospel on how to rank peoples power levels. cabba was very much portrayed as a teen gohan clone in the ToP. taking this as a baseline to the gohan that fought broly in movie 10 who is a gohan that kept up his training and got stronger. i would say broly could probably fight cabba very much the same way he fought goten and trunks.

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#128 Posted by Karkus (689 posts) - - Show Bio

@ricky33: It's possible that was the weakest wolf. Goku already matched Fit Buu, so the three wolves combined should be capable of that.