Burning Godzilla vs Godzilla Final Wars?

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#1  Edited By jasraj

who wins? 
 
lets debate

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#3  Edited By Lantern Prime

The planet blows up while they are fighting so therefor a draw....

 

 


 

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#4  Edited By jasraj
Fun Fact: The Final Wars Godzilla is actually Heisei Godzilla's son, Godzilla Jr (as seen in 3 heisei movies) is actually Final Wars Godzilla
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#5  Edited By jasraj
Who has a stronger ray? 
 
I cant decide, Burning Godzillas ray is said to be 3x more powerful or something, whilst final wars Godzilla took down monsters with one single shot from his ray, and he fired his ray into space
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#6  Edited By AMS

Final Wars as well imo, in hindsight Burning is not that impressive looking back for someone so amped up he honestly wasn't that impressive imo.
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#7  Edited By jasraj
@Lantern Prime said:
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The planet blows up while they are fighting so therefor a draw....

 

 


 

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Couldn't Final Wars Godzilla absorb the energy? 
   
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#8  Edited By thelocust619

Bump. Also, in the alternate (original) ending to Godzilla vs Destroyah, Destroyah gets up after being frozen and starts going blow for blow with Godzilla in an brutal final brawl as the military dumps everything they have on them. Its chaos....n at some point you see a flash through the smoke as another pulse goes off n suddenly Destroyah is gone. As in dissintigrated. By standing near him.The same monster that tanked 7+ red spiral beams.

FW Godzilla dies. Horribly. Also he's not Godzilla Jr. That's not canon at all.

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I honestly didn't think that Burning Godzilla's Spiral Beams packed a punch, whereas one Spiral Ray from FW Godzilla was all it took to beat Keizer Ghidorah.

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Ima break this down for you guys right here.

Like jasraj said Final Wars Godzilla is Heisei Godzilla's son. He is Godzilla jr in Godzilla vs Destroyah. Now the reason That Godzilla went into burning mode is because his body could no longer handle all the nuclear radiation he had absorbs throughout the years. At the end of the movie however, Godzilla melts down and all the energy re released is absorbed by Godzilla jr which causes him to grow full sized within seconds. That being said, Godzilla jr, aka FW Godzilla, can handle far more energy than his father ever could. FW Godzilla's body is far stronger since he was able to absorb all of burning Godzilla's energy without melting down himself. Plus there's the fact that FW G swam through magma and took nukes to the face on top of all the energy he previously absorbed.

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Final wars wins too powerful and can use spiral beam at Will shown when he effortlessly blasted ghidorah into Orbit his base beam to my knowledge based on feats is just as powerful if not more powerful then burning Godzilla red spiral beam so FW red beam would be at least 5 to 7x more powerful. Therefore he stronger...and where do u guys get that final wars is Jr???

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Final Wars Godzilla became Keizer Godzilla with unlimited power, at the end of the movie.

Final Wars Godzilla is similar in power to Burning Godzilla. a fight between the two could go either way, but I have to give the slight advantage to Final Goji, based on how much faster and smarter Final Wars Godzilla is compared to Burning Godzilla.

Keizer Godzilla on the other hand, easily destroys Burning Godzilla. Keizer Godzilla threw Keizer Guidora, who Toho confirmed as the strongest of Godzilla's enemies and who weights 100,000 tons, into space. The explosion caused by Keizer Godzilla's spiral ray was the size of a continent, take into consideration that this explosion took place in outer space. Such explosion happening inside our atmosphere, would be multiplied many times over, causing complete destruction of everything on Earth

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FW Godzilla fires a ray at Burning Godzilla and burns a hole in the earth, killing them both. This was explained in the movie. You can't shoot at Burning Godzilla, that's why the JSD Force used freezing weapons and were hoping Destroyah would take him out.

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#14  Edited By gallavant123

Think Keizer Ghidorah was confirmed to be the strongest Ghidorah, not sure about strongest kaiju. Vs matches between Keizer, Space Godzilla, and Destoroyah go on all the time.

Heisei's first spiral ray caused a thunderstorm in the area just from powering it up. while his second one was cooler yet put out 3x more fusion material. Burning Godzilla's body heat alone boiled a whole sea. For Melting Godzilla, it was graphed that the radiation output in the area raised immeasurably, like 10 fold or more. Thus, certain sources say that the beam used during this form is the Infinite Heat Ray

Comparing FW's heat: A casual charged beam can light up the nearby buildings around it. Whereas 1993 RadoGoji's pulsing was burning up a heat shield that wasnt even close.

Maybe slightly apples to oranges here with the heat thing, but that aside lets say Keizer Ghidorah and RadoGoji's presentations were similar, causing thunder and lightning all around. That still puts Burning Godzilla 2 powerups higher, 3 when he reaches Melting temperature. And Infinite Heat Ray matches Keizer's power description to boot.

Just the fact that Burning Godzilla spams his heat ray while FW Godzilla needs to charge it I would say Burning Godzilla has a big edge.

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#16  Edited By RL4

Burning Godzilla imo. His red spiral ray is way way stronger than most incarnations of godzilla, including FW (maybe).

@kilius Wouldn't FW godzilla absorb all the radiation of his dying father like he did before?

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#17  Edited By gallavant123

@rl4 said:

Burning Godzilla imo. His red spiral ray is way way stronger than most incarnations of godzilla, including FW (maybe).

@kilius Wouldn't FW godzilla absorb all the radiation of his dying father like he did before?

There also wouldn't be anyone trying to freeze (if it is) his father's heat output. Twice.

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#18  Edited By gallavant123

My stance on the fight:

FW Godzilla and Heisei Burning Godzilla both tend to use their most powerful beams off the bat, for different reasons, whether one sees a big threat or just plain having to. They also both have 2 forms. Pitting either's initial form against the other's higher form would seem unfair. But it's probably the only way FW gets a win. The beam Burning uses vaporized a whole alien Godzilla. Not a weaker kaiju, not a head, nor a leg. A whole kaiju. And not a tissue paper kaiju like ebirah was. Triple the strength of a standard spiral ray. FW G would be on the ground the first blow like with Keizer's assault, possibly knocked out or in shock if theres a wound. FW may be agile but he isn't some hyper version of Zilla 1998, he isn't dodging several fusion rays in a row. Burning might "run low on juice" after a few blasts of it but chances are by the time FW starts to get up, if he still can, it'd be CQB, which Heisei is the strongest with, especially if FW G is weakened. Even if Burning G runs low on available fuel, the standard red beam in between his initial form and Melting transition is still stronger than the super ray that decapitated King Ghidorah 1991. Extremely unlikely for FW G to pull a win, he basically has one attack that would do damage and he'll probably have a hard time regenerating the kind of wounds the Fusion ray will expose him to. Plus Burning G's regen is superior (instant), and as far as destroying the Earth goes, we don't know how big of a wound could cause him to blow up.

FW doesn't have any pain tolerance, the first burn mark has him groaning in agony while Burning G gets cut in half and keeps coming. The only thing giving FW a chance at all here is the power variation Godzilla has at the middle of his Burning phase, which most certainly starts off with fusion rays.

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Junior wins, he has all the energy his dad does but he can actually handle it.

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#20  Edited By gallavant123
@gorochu44 said:

Junior wins, he has all the energy his dad does but he can actually handle it.

Not enough of it to be spamming spiral rays. Takes 5 seconds to charge up a big one and he's not getting that chance early on at all.

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#21  Edited By gallavant123

He's been weakened from being frozen under the ice for god knows how long. Godzillas attack, they require fuel from human power plants. Godzilla 1984 showed this.

Whatever state Junior was at during the end of Vs Destoroyah certainly isn't the one here.

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Bump. Also, in the alternate (original) ending to Godzilla vs Destroyah, Destroyah gets up after being frozen and starts going blow for blow with Godzilla in an brutal final brawl as the military dumps everything they have on them. Its chaos....n at some point you see a flash through the smoke as another pulse goes off n suddenly Destroyah is gone. As in dissintigrated. By standing near him.The same monster that tanked 7+ red spiral beams.

FW Godzilla dies. Horribly.

does that still count as a feat

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#23  Edited By takenstew22  Moderator

Final Wars Goji takes it before Burning G can bust the planet.

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#24  Edited By thelocust619

@rawsos: @rawsos: Not as much as a hard feat that makes it into the feature film, but it counts a bit more than a statement from the creator. They actually made it and filmed it, so clearly it's an option according to the creators. In an interview they said they only changed it because it drew the focus away from Godzilla's goodbye.

If a hard feat were to contradict it, then that'd take precedence but the film actually supports it, considering he was going obliterate the entire planet if he reached critical mass. Only difference is in that version, he actually reaches it since he isnt frozen.

Also, off topic, but FW Godzilla flat out isnt Jr. That's a fan theory. Final Wars isnt part of the Hessei continuity.

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@rawsos: @rawsos: Not as much as a hard feat that makes it into the feature film, but it counts a bit more than a statement from the creator. They actually made it and filmed it, so clearly it's an option according to the creators. In an interview they said they only changed it because it drew the focus away from Godzilla's goodbye.

If a hard feat were to contradict it, then that'd take precedence but the film actually supports it, considering he was going obliterate the entire planet if he reached critical mass. Only difference is in that version, he actually reaches it since he isnt frozen.

did earth blow up or something im kinda curious

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@rawsos: No, jr absorbed it again. The scene just replaced Destroyah gettung frozen by the military.

Harder to find now but this is it.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1601318056653089&id=274778945973680&_rdr

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#28  Edited By FirenadoPlayz

I may be late but tbh its a very close fight tho what i think could settle who is the winner is that burning godzilla is dying therefor i think his durability is lower but his regeneration is alot better tho Fw's red spiral ray is comparable to the theia impact aka the collision of earth and the planet theia which created the moon tho burning could use his infinite heatray just basicly the entire battle which could work but its highly unlikely so its very close but in my opinion fw can just send burning into space and well that should be easy with the red spiral ray because he sent keizer ghidorah into space which is the most powerfull live action ghidorah incarnate and keizer ghidorah is 120,000 tons much heavier than burning g or heisei and after being in space burning would just stay there untill its meltdown or it dies from the red spiral ray.So yeah i think fw wins.

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Probably Heisei

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FW Goji may have fought more monsters but they were all pretty weak in comparison to the monsters Heisei Goji fought.

I honestly think Heisei can win. He no-sold being swallowed by an underwater volcano and walking through the Earth's crust until he found a good place to get back to the surface.

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#31 takenstew22  Moderator

Final Wars Goji takes it before Burning G can bust the planet.

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Heisei Godzilla.

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@rawsos said:
@thelocust619 said:

Bump. Also, in the alternate (original) ending to Godzilla vs Destroyah, Destroyah gets up after being frozen and starts going blow for blow with Godzilla in an brutal final brawl as the military dumps everything they have on them. Its chaos....n at some point you see a flash through the smoke as another pulse goes off n suddenly Destroyah is gone. As in dissintigrated. By standing near him.The same monster that tanked 7+ red spiral beams.

FW Godzilla dies. Horribly.

does that still count as a feat

Not unless you derive databooks for everything.

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#34 takenstew22  Moderator

Honestly, I might've wanked FW Goji a little too hard. He's far faster and more agile but Burning Godzilla is too powerful. If Heisei doesn't take him out first then his meltdown will, along with himself and the planet.

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Burning Godzilla solos the entirety of the fw verse

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Honestly, I might've wanked FW Goji a little too hard. He's far faster and more agile but Burning Godzilla is too powerful. If Heisei doesn't take him out first then his meltdown will, along with himself and the planet.

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ive done nothing but wank fw godzilla and i say burning wins. i say fw godzilla is more or less country level