@supahjd: have you seen prime vader he dominated and terrorrized a much stronger and better roster when has bron took someone's ear with him or literally have people quit wrestling when they saw they had to wrestle in both reality and in the wrestling vader was one of the most feared men in wrestling history and in ring he was one of the best.
@comic_book_fan: We're going off kayfabe, right? My logic is simple. They've been building Brock Lesnar to be this indestricutble beast, right? Able to beat Taker, Show, Henry, top dogs and BIG DOGs, with ease.
They're building Braun up to be someone Brock literall has to avoid. He's taking Vader in kayfabe terms. And speed. And power.
@king_hellstorm: Big Show isn't beating him. Neither is Henry.
@supahjd: Henry was actually one of the strongest Americans in his prime, Braun is just a roid beast. Old and withered Show also gave Braun a good fight, Prime Show would mess him up.
@supahjd: vader was that era's brock and i will give you that the way they have been pushing bron iam not as sure as i was 4 months ago but you also have to look at are we talking in ring feats or segments kane and bron are much stronger in segments than they were once the match starts.
and an older kane who was simply going back to his roots was giving bron a lot of trouble just like a month ago.
imagine what the fireball throwing regenerating kane could do
@comic_book_fan: He's not beating that Kane lol. @almighty: I know Show has some good feats. But Braun has also been hit by smashed around too. I think the fight with Show is a long one. But I still think he takes the win. @king_hellstorm: How is Braun just a roid beast for sure? Lol. Jesus. And we're talking kayfabe here. Mark's booking < Braun's booking and feats.
@supahjd: He is in the WWE and is more buff than half the locker. It's like Ryback, pretty obviously on something. Also if we are talking kayfabe then yeah, he can wreck but WWE "power levels" are dumb and change depending on the storyline, I can see Santino beating Braun just for lolz.
@supahjd: i think 99 -2002 bigshow is comparable to braun flipping cars destroying rings plus andre and taker aren't even in the match it's a shame because that leaves even more fun discussion andre really did what braun does in segments .
@thelaughingman_aoi: kane could teleport heal like Jason and and throw fireballs and take on undertaker who has possessed people and literally stole people's soul
braun struggled with an older version of that kane early this year.
big show flipped a jeep and another car and tore up the ring with his bare hands.
granted the vehicles that braun flipped were larger in story i think show should get points because he really rocked that jeap and flipped it himself where brauns is completely jacked lifted.
and mark henery has literally lifted 1100 pounds above his head real feat .
So Kane cannot be BFR'd. Braun won't need to BFR Kane anyways
heal like Jason
Jason Jordan?
Anyways, Kane's HF isn't that impressive. 3 tombstones took down Kane at his best. A super 4-people shield powerbomb + AA + ROMAN's spear couldn't put Braun down
and and throw fireballs
Destructive feats for the fireballs? Who is strongest character they have KO'd?
and take on undertaker who has possessed people and literally stole people's soul
So Kane has soul manipulation resistance. I don't see how it helps against Braun. It is like saying that man-beast beats hulk because he has taken on adam warlock who can steal souls.
braun struggled with an older version of that kane early this year.
He manhandled Kane. You're forgetting the fact that Kane had a "returning" amp, and Braun is consistently getting stronger. Infact, he nearly killed Brock freaking Lesnar, and Kane in the same night at nearly the same time. Then he nearly killed Kane in last man standing match.
big show flipped a jeep and another car and tore up the ring with his bare hands.
Braun flipped ambulance, a massive production truck and lifted and stopped a huge car casually. He also brought down the huge metal structure on Brock Lesnar and Kane.
granted the vehicles that braun flipped were larger in story i think show should get points because he really rocked that jeap and flipped it himself where brauns is completely jacked lifted.
The vehicles Braun flipped were HUGE compared to that. Even ignoring that, Braun's feats are better since Big Show needed to built momentum, and the jeep was placed in an unstable position where it was easy to rock and flip it. On the other hand, Braun lifted it deadlift-style and flipped it over
and mark henery has literally lifted 1100 pounds above his head real feat .
@apex_pretador: That's all fake though. IRL Mark is stronger than him being an actual American powerlifter and Show has a height/reach advantage over him. Going by kayfabe then maybe Braun wins, but I don't keep up with the current stuff.
@apex_pretador: That's all fake though. IRL Mark is stronger than him being an actual American powerlifter and Show has a height/reach advantage over him.
I hate to break it to you, but Batman, Superman, Thanos and Silver Surfer are also "fake"
We are talking about characters not the actors. MCU Thor loses to DCEU Superman but hemsworth is much bigger and taller than cavil.
Also, IRL braun was a WSM competitor.
Going by kayfabe then maybe Braun wins, but I don't keep up with the current stuff.
Braun still stops at composite Kane but only because of the vast gap in kayfabe strength between current and attitude era rosters.
What Braun did at the chamber was extremely impressive but then you have to remember exactly who Braun fodderized:
-Finn Balor who was squashed by current Kane who's much weaker than Classic or AE Kane.
-Seth Rollins who regularly struggles with Cesaro/Sheamus, two people who were low diff fodderized by Current Kurt Angle.
-Current John Cena who is at the weakest he's been in over a decade, while keeping in mind that even at his prime was only about even with a much older Rock.
-Miz is who is still fodder to even Current Cena
-Elias who is still fodder to even Current Cena
And finally Reigns who Braun couldn't beat in the end.
Braun fodderizing the current roster isn't as impressive when you go by WWE's logic that much older and out of prime AE stars are above the current stars.
So Kane cannot be BFR'd. Braun won't need to BFR Kane anyways
heal like Jason
Jason Jordan?
yeah i was obviously talking about jason jordon remember whe he was burried in concrete or when he was lit on fire in that casket or when when they blew up that bus he was on good times
Anyways, Kane's HF isn't that impressive. 3 tombstones took down Kane at his best. A super 4-people shield powerbomb + AA + ROMAN's spear couldn't put Braun down
we were talking about 3 tombstones in a match match feats are usually less than in segment feats and usually 1 tombstone beats anyone and a tombstone on a chair beat prime hogan who was notoriously famous for shaking things off and no sailing moves kane was tombstoned on a chair and on to steps before he went down
and and throw fireballs
Destructive feats for the fireballs? Who is strongest character they have KO'd?
i meant lighting bolts it lit a man on fire instantly
and take on undertaker who has possessed people and literally stole people's soul
So Kane has soul manipulation resistance. I don't see how it helps against Braun. It is like saying that man-beast beats hulk because he has taken on adam warlock who can steal souls.
braun struggled with an older version of that kane early this year.
He manhandled Kane. You're forgetting the fact that Kane had a "returning" amp, and Braun is consistently getting stronger. Infact, he nearly killed Brock freaking Lesnar, and Kane in the same night at nearly the same time. Then he nearly killed Kane in last man standing match.
manhandled kane put him out for a week after betraying him then the week after braun got his revenge kane surprised attacked him and put him out for another week with the chair windpipe move and kane did better than brock in the build up and kane is more durable than brock remember when braun brought the set down on both of them kane walked a way and brock needed a stretcher.
big show flipped a jeep and another car and tore up the ring with his bare hands.
Braun flipped ambulance, a massive production truck and lifted and stopped a huge car casually. He also brought down the huge metal structure on Brock Lesnar and Kane.
granted the vehicles that braun flipped were larger in story i think show should get points because he really rocked that jeap and flipped it himself where brauns is completely jacked lifted.
The vehicles Braun flipped were HUGE compared to that. Even ignoring that, Braun's feats are better since Big Show needed to built momentum, and the jeep was placed in an unstable position where it was easy to rock and flip it. On the other hand, Braun lifted it deadlift-style and flipped it over
and mark henery has literally lifted 1100 pounds above his head real feat .
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