Boundman Luffy vs Dangai Ichigo: Who hits harder physically?

Ichigo, easily.

Obviously Luffy.

Inb4 Multi-Planet buster punches by Ichigo.

at least not multiversal, i remember there was one guy he'd say that Ichigo is multiversal cuz he cut the soul king in half and soul king's shell has MV durability because whenever the SK dies all bleach universes crumble.

Luffy

Inb4 slapping away 12 continental attacks at once

@corruptionz: Probably Undre.

Ichigo by both feats and scaling.

ichigo all the way dangai ichigo is the equivalent to eos ichigo so yea

Ichigo

Ichigo. Slapping away Ultra Fragor > Luffy.

Ichigo literally erased mountainous structures with shockwaves from a parry. Lmao.

I would like to hear just one feat from Boundman Luffy that would even put him near Ichigo, let alone surpass him.

@kingguinness: I think you are underselling Luffy a bit. Ichigo's standard attacks are probably a bit above Luffy but I do think KKG > FGT. You should also keep in mind how much Luffy was nerfed towards the end in Dressrosa.

what ever ichigo dishest out via getsuga or attacks is the same as physically, anyone who has watched any bleach fight knows this.

Lol if the hill Dangai vaped

is considered a mountain I’m putting Pts Monster trio at Mountain level+

Stop it.

a hill sized mountain or a mountain sized hill?😂

the question no bleach fan can answer you.

@arthur_morgan: lmao.

Ichigo's feat was like only the top half so still hill level either way.

OT: Ichigo, and im happy to see someone else using the ultafragor feat

@shirso:

“I think you are underselling Luffy a bit. Ichigo's standard attacks are probably a bit above Luffy but I do think KKG > FGT. You should also keep in mind how much Luffy was nerfed towards the end in Dressrosa.”

There’s no way you can think that’s true unless you believe KKG is country+ level, like Dangai is.

@kingguinness: Where is the reasoning for Dangai being country lvl coming from though? Is it from Lanza or Kenpachi?

likely the kenpachi feat and the ulrafragor feat/scaling

So for those using the slapping away ultra fragor feat would they care to quantify the energy ichigo required to slap the fragor ball away and what makes it so great of a feat(something which has an unknown mass, weight and probably speed ) if I were to swat away a medium containing a building lvl bomb in it before it exploded that would give me building lvl striking strength automatically?

if you were to destroy a building busting energy ball/object then yeah, thats kinda the intent

Ichigo as of now. He should be able to bust a mountain with a direct hit at, like Kenpachi did. Mugetsu most likely is multi-mountain level. But that's where he caps at max.

I expect Luffy to surpass Ichigo, though.

Inb4 island level KKG. And lol at country level Ichigo.

No I don't think so,this should only apply to physical and tangible objects like say I use my fist as a medium for transferring KE and bust a mountain with a strike from it, that would mean my arm is durable enough to withstand the transfer of mountain lvl KE so if someone were to destroy my arm even while it's not in motion it would mean said person has enough KE than my arm can handle this proof of mountain+ strength.but with energy projections it has no way to show durability like physical and tangible attacks, IMO it would have been a different case if ichigo cancelled fragor explosion the instant it exploded with a single swing from his arm

@yray: the intent with the feat was clear, he dispersed the attack and there was no explosion afterwards.

like this is some serious disingenuity

@yray: I think the argument is since Fragors are nothing but condensed balls of reishi, Ichigo dispersed 12 balls of highly condensed, mountain/multi-mountain busting reishi (energy)

essentially.

Comparing it to destroying typical bombs isnt the way to go

@shirso: @ourmanuel:oh ,my bad then since ourmanuel didn't state the part where he dispersed fragor explosion from slapping it away I was thinking he just changed the direction of the fragor ball by swatting it away only must have misunderstood him. Thanks

bruh..... Its right there in the scan

Ichigo is a lot more faster and deadly than Gear 4th, also Luffy should use Snakeman against him instead of Boundman in order to actually be able to fight.

@skysanji said:

Lol if the hill Dangai vaped

is considered a mountain I’m putting Pts Monster trio at Mountain level+

Stop it.

Isn't that better than busting tho?.

Anyhow Ichigo vaped the top half of hill extremely casually, thats arguably better physicals than most of One piece verse.

@shirso:

Ichigo casually swatted away Ultra Fragor, which is an attack composed of 12 individual Fragor's. Each Fragor >>> Lanza, and Ichigo swatted away 12 of them. That's at least country level.

Luffy. Don't see how slapping away fragor before it exploded results in multimountain level striking. Naruto has a similar feat for slapping away Bijuu Damas. Does BM Naruto suddenly have multi-mountain level striking too?

Dangai Ichigo has mountain level striking at best.

@antonio_1996:

Because Bleach is predicated on Reiatsu and potency. It doesn't matter if Fragor had exploded or not, his Reiatsu/potency >>> Ultra Fragor regardless.

We've seen characters in Bleach neg the attacks of higher by simply dwarfing them in Reiatsu, and their potency scales accordingly.

ichigo probably hits harder than average boundman kong gun but king kong gun hits much harder. Bird cage could already withstand impacts from large hill sized meteors and couldn't budge with top heavy hitters like zoro,hadrujin,fuji and chinjao, barto's barrier could barely be pushed back when king punch was used on it but bird cage was pushing it back easily without snapping [that's definitely way past multi-mountain durability considering all these contexts] and kkg broke through doffy's 16 awakened threads several times more durable than that like nothing and folded dressrosas floor which still has its own durability feats

@kingguinness: None of what you says proves Ichigo having fragor level striking. It didn't detonate therefore you can't say Ichigo's striking is superior to that of a fragor explosion.

The reiatsu potency argument doesn't help your case.

Like I said, BM Naruto has a similar feat yet nobody claims he has Bijuu Dama level striking.

If Ichigo slapped it away after it detonated you might've had an argument. Saying Ichigo has multi-mountain striking for slapping away fragor when it didn't detonate is just wrong and I fail to see how your reiatsu potency argument helps your case.

Fragor completely scorched Ichigo's arm. If his casual strikes are potent enough to overpower 6 Fragor's at the same time, does that mean Ichigo could casually vape himself or his hypothetical equal in a single strike?

Anybody from R2 Ulqiorra and above woud solo one piece.

OT : Dangai Ichigo neg diff.

Litterally evaporate a mountain by a shockwave of a parry >>>>>>> Anything one piece characters did.

The Ultra Fraggor feat has me on the edge. Unless the condensed reishi balls themselves have multi mountain strength, Ichigo swatting away non-detonating Fraggors doesn’t account to anything, since only 1 Fraggor heavily burned him.

That said, he should be Island+ for overpowering Lanza in an inferior form.

@antonio_1996:

It doesn't need to detonate. He dispersed it with a casual swing of his sword and it's already been established that characters in Bleach use Reiatsu for everything, including physical strikes. Therefore the Reiatsu powering his physical strikes > Ultra Fragor.

The BM Naruto example doesn't make sense because the mechanics/fundamentals of that verse differ from Bleach. You can't generalise.

@kingguinness: Using your logic: Yhwach after absorbing the Soul King had enough Reiatsu to eclipse 3 realms, does that mean Ichigo's strikes are multi-versal or multi-planet in AP?

@kingguinness: It does need to detonate, unfortunately. I'll never accept your reasoning for why it shouldn't. I don't care what you say to me about reiatsu powering physical strikes, but the fact remains that he didn't overpower ultra fraggors potential DC. The only reason fragor has mountain level DC is because they got fired and detonated.

You cannot claim Ichigo has country level striking for slapping away ultra fraggors which wasn't even fired or detonated.

You can believe otherwise, but I simply disagree.

Also, reiatsu does not scale absolutely everything linearly the more reiatsu you have. DC, durability, striking etc does not scale linearly with reiatsu.

I’ve never seen anything from Luffy on the level of Ichigo’s accidental mountain/hill/rock/whatever that is feat.

Lol at the poll.

Ichigo. And dangai is always nice to look at.

Still my favorite design it’s nice and simple but still looks cool.

@faradaysloth: Ichigo's feat is impressive no doubt but I wouldn't call it mountain level it was simply to small.

I think Dessrosa was a better feat because Luffy did that while he was completely resisted.