Boruto and Kawaki vs Mahito(Jujutsu Kaisen)

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  • Chakra=Curse Energy
  • Start from 10 meters apart
  • Random Encounter-No knowledge
  • No Domain Expansion
  • Victory by death, knockout, or incapacitation

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Massive Mismatch

Either solo

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If Mahito touch them they get turned into balloons and pop. But idk how fast they all are soooo.

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What are the techniques and skillsets of the duo? Do they have attacks that can seal/attack the soul or anything similar? Because they may be faster than Mahito but they aren't going to kill him with conventional attacks.

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@joshtaku: The only "seal" they have is the portal BFR, but I think only Boruto is capable of that now that Kawaki lost his Karma.

As for skill sets, Kawaki can manipulate his body to a certain extent, kinds like Jugo woth his Curse Seal Form and can use basic ninjutsu like the shadow clone jutsu.

As for Boruto he can absorb chakra, BFR via portal creation and had a couple different chakra nature's he can use.

As for stats I have no clue because the Boruto-Verse hella wonky with it.

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@demoo: Thanks for that. Then going by what you said, they aren't putting down mahito. Mahito is kind of like orochimaru but more dangerous and waaaay tougher to kill. If they don't have any soul based techniques and attacks or any sealing technique, Mahito will eventually touch them and it'll be gg

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Mahito black flashes the fodders

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Mahito easily

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Either boruto or Kawaki solo stomp

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Either boruto or Kawaki solo stomp

These 2 fodders simply can't do anything against someone who posses low-godly regen...

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@ultimatesage: As long as his soul is intact he is just gonna keep regenerating, so you need TSO or any technique that destroys ones soul to kill him.

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@deyyy said:
@ultimatesage said:

Either boruto or Kawaki solo stomp

These 2 fodders simply can't do anything against someone who posses low-godly regen...

Mahito regen is soul based so as long as his soul maintains its shape his body can always regen even if it is crushed. So all someone would have to do is have soul manipulation. If we ignore the NLF. I would agree to say duo do not have such a ability to effect mahito soul. They at best would keep killing him with the ladder always coming back even if they are faster. The only way for them to get around is chakra rods winning by incapacitation which should tag since they are around Sm Adult Naruto speed and base should be Rel - Rel + speed for reacting to photon beams in novel when he was weakened no less and had a virus and healthy Sm >> healthy base >> sick base

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Either blitz and BFR.

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@rdcdesmond: With no knowledge they would simply face Mahito head on which would lead to their deaths ince if they make contact with him they would dimply get hit idle transfiguration completely mutating their souls and turning them into one of his experiments or just simply cast DE.

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@deyyy said:

@ultimatesage: As long as his soul is intact he is just gonna keep regenerating, so you need TSO or any technique that destroys ones soul to kill him.

oh okay, that's interesting. Is that based/connected to how much cursed energy he has? Like if his cursed energy was depleted, would he still be able to regen?

Also, that is a nice advantage he would have, but in no way does it make the ninja duo fodder lol especially in this fight.
  • Victory by death, knockout, or incapacitation

not only do they eclipse mahito in every other stat possible, tthey also can do 2 of the 3 victory requirements here.

Black rods that will continuously absorb his energy and paralyz him at the same time. Or Black pot. Also to note( not sure fr tho), boruto was turned into a full otsutsuki by Momoshiki in the recent chp, it's not impossible to say that he can give out Karma seals now, which would affect Mahito's soul

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@ultimatesage: Knock out isn't really a win con i doubt Mahito would get KO due to the fact that if you don't directly damage/destroy his soul you can't do anything significant to him since he is just gonna regen either way. No his regen isn't based on how much CE he has. Black rods are they only win con but mahito can shapeshift and multiply himself paralyzing him don't matter since from him to shapeshift or multiply himself its all about him rearranging his own soul from the inside. Now with no knowledge they would indeed face Mahito head on which will led to them getting their soul transfigured or getting power nulled and one-shotted by Mahito's Domain expansion.

Idle transfiguration:

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Mahito's Domain that has Power nullification capabilities and its a direct hit to the opponent inside it but in Mahito's case a one shot.

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@deyyy said:

@ultimatesage: Knock out isn't really a win con i doubt Mahito would get KO due to the fact that if you don't directly damage/destroy his soul you can't do anything significant to him since he is just gonna regen either way. No his regen isn't based on how much CE he has.

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Black rods are they only win con but mahito can shapeshift and multiply himself paralyzing him don't matter since from him to shapeshift or multiply himself its all about him rearranging his own soul from the inside.

huh? Why wouldn't paralyzing work? Just shapeshift doesn't stop that,, heck he would be able to move in the first place?? And he does his every ability(s) using energy(CS) which will be unaccessible to him if he has he rods on his person.

Now with no knowledge they would indeed face Mahito head on which will led to them getting their soul transfigured or getting power nulled and one-shotted by Mahito's Domain expansion.

Would be near impossible for him to do any transfiguration(s) if he's just getting blitzed and rocked by the two repeatedly. And he would just end up sealed after they realize that he just regens

Idle transfiguration:

Mahito's Domain that has Power nullification capabilties.

don't see anything here indicating power nullification going on, but domain is restricted anyway so I won't argue with it moving forward

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@ultimatesage said:
@deyyy said:

huh? Why wouldn't paralyzing work? Just shapeshift doesn't stop that,, heck he would be able to move in the first place?? And he does his every ability(s) using energy(CS) which will be unaccessible to him if he has he rods on his person.

Paralyzing is simply incapacitating someone's body isn't? mahito uses soul manipulation to muliply and shapeshift himself like he could literally separate the rods from his body just like the ten tail was separating amaterasu from his boy remember? yeah mahito can do that but without any loss or injury since black would simply not affect his soul.

Would be near impossible for him to do any transfiguration(s) if he's just getting blitzed and rocked by the two repeatedly. And he would just end up sealed after they realize that he just regens

Bruh they are unexperienced kids of course they are just going head on against Mahito which would led to their death since mahito could simply transmute their souls by having contact with them and contact is bound to have since they are mostly physical fighters.

Idle transfiguration:

Mahito's Domain that has Power nullification capabilties.

It does power null since you can't use you're abilities/technique/powers inside the domain and there are only a few ways to counter it. Gojo's infinity being negged by it is an example of how it power nulls:

But it doesn't matter since its restricted i didn't even noticed.

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Paralyzing is simply incapacitating someone's body isn't? mahito uses soul manipulation to muliply and shapeshift himself like he could literally separate the rods from his body just like the ten tail was separating amaterasu from his boy remember? yeah mahito can do that but without any loss or injury since black would simply not affect his soul.

Yes, it's incapacitating someone yes, but the way you're saying mahito should b able to counter it wouldn't work. The black receivers sends the users own chakra through the person being pierced, abling them to full out control their bodies(eg:obuto and the bijuus, nagato and the pains). And it makes it impossible for mahito to use his own curse energy

Bruh they are unexperienced kids of course they are just going head on against Mahito which would led to their death since mahito could simply transmute their souls by having contact with them and contact is bound to have since they are mostly physical fighters.

well that's not true. Both boruto and Kawaki aren't the least bi experienced, heck I'll argue they're the more experienced ones here. Both had already gone through their Otsutsification, abling them to have the millennium(s) of experience and power isshiki and Momoshiki had.

It does power null since you can't use you're abilities/technique/powers inside the domain and there are only a few ways to counter it. Gojo's infinity being negged by it is an example of how it power nulls:

It's more of a guaranteed hit than your powers getting nulled. They can still use their own powers and curse energy, heck making your own domain expansion whilst in another domain expansion is a preferred counter iirc which would be illogical if all you're abilities are nullified( and I'm pretty sure gojo even in that scan was still using his blindfold for his six eyes ability)

But it doesn't matter since its restricted i didn't even noticed

aight

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@deyyy:

Yes, it's incapacitating someone yes, but the way you're saying mahito should b able to counter it wouldn't work. The black receivers sends the users own chakra through the person being pierced, abling them to full out control their bodies(eg:obuto and the bijuus, nagato and the pains). And it makes it impossible for mahito to use his own curse energy

Mahito's regen/body manipulation isn't bounded by his CE or CT he was simply just born like that his ct is just the ability to affect other peoples souls . Black rods don't affect ones soul so it wouldn't so anything to mahito since he can manipulate his own soul/body at will and by manipulating his own soul he can simply separate his body from the rods just like 10 tails did to amaterasu.

well that's not true. Both boruto and Kawaki aren't the least bi experienced, heck I'll argue they're the more experienced ones here. Both had already gone through their Otsutsification, abling them to have the millennium(s) of experience and power isshiki and Momoshiki had.

But per OP rules the DUO has no knowledge on Mahito's abilities how would they simply know that if they make contact with this man they would get transfigured? they would simply run straight to Mahito and engaging contact with him which will simply led to them getting mutated.

It's more of a guaranteed hit than your powers getting nulled. They can still use their own powers and curse energy, heck making your own domain expansion whilst in another domain expansion is a preferred counter iirc which would be illogical if all you're abilities are nullified( and I'm pretty sure gojo even in that scan was still using his blindfold for his six eyes ability)

That's why i said there are only a few counters to it but the scan below does say that it nulls all technique anyways. You can only counter it with you're own DE or simple domain.

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@deyyy said:

@rdcdesmond: With no knowledge they would simply face Mahito head on which would lead to their deaths ince if they make contact with him they would dimply get hit idle transfiguration completely mutating their souls and turning them into one of his experiments or just simply cast DE.

Even with no Knowledge Kawaki by feats starts off the battle with chakra rod spam anyway

Actually he used multiple ranged attacks before using physicals so he doesn’t need to touch mahito to put him down temporarily

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And the ladder will blitz mahito with those attacks especially rods.

Same with Borushiki who starts battle without having to physically touch.

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@deyyy:

Mahito's regen/body manipulation isn't bounded by his CE or CT he was simply just born like that his ct is just the ability to affect other peoples souls . Black rods don't affect ones soul so it wouldn't so anything to mahito since he can manipulate his own soul/body at will and by manipulating his own soul he can simply separate his body from the rods just like 10 tails did to amaterasu.

See it's this part, "since he can manipulate his own soul/body at will," he won't be able to manip his body using his will at all. The ten tail and Amaterasu analogy can't be used here, Amaterasu doesn't restrict nor take control of people's bodies like black receivers.

But per OP rules the DUO has no knowledge on Mahito's abilities how would they simply know that if they make contact with this man they would get transfigured? they would simply run straight to Mahito and engaging contact with him which will simply led to them getting mutated.

Oh I thought you were talking about experience in general, but yeah they don't have knowledge on Mahito sure. Which is why the preferred method I said they would be using to take him down is at continous onslaught of attack, figuring out that this guy has regeneration abilities(which wouldn't be hard for them to figure out, having fought people with regen before), and finally sealing him in the black pot.

That's why i said there are only a few counters to it but the scan below does say that it nulls all technique anyways. You can only counter it with you're own DE or simple domain.

That "neutralizes all techniques," is down right a contradiction to domain(a technique) that is a counter to domain expansion. That interpretation is off, that's why it more of a space that renders all abilities that obstruct the way of the user who prompted the domain expansion, useless.

Like you can still use you're abilities (which we see in them being able to still use their own domain and curse energy), you just can't use abilities that barricade you, since any hit is guaranteed to hit whilst in a domain expansion.

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@deyyy: chakra rods blitz and restrict him

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Duo stomps

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@deyyy:

See it's this part, "since he can manipulate his own soul/body at will," he won't be able to manip his body using his will at all. The ten tail and Amaterasu analogy can't be used here, Amaterasu doesn't restrict nor take control of people's bodies like black receivers.

You're not understanding that soul comes before the body mahito manipulating his souls alter his body at will for black rods to neg that it needs feats of nulling soul manipulation. Mahito manipulating his soul will make his body appearance change to whatever he wants to automatically.

Oh I thought you were talking about experience in general, but yeah they don't have knowledge on Mahito sure. Which is why the preferred method I said they would be using to take him down is at continous onslaught of attack, figuring out that this guy has regeneration abilities(which wouldn't be hard for them to figure out, having fought people with regen before), and finally sealing him in the black pot.

No. That's in you're point of view but that's not simply how Boruto and Kawaki would act when they just encounters a guy and they have to fight him for some reason. Just Like Borushiki went for a physical approach while fighting sasuke, there is no real reason for me to believe that this kids with no knowledge of the opponent are not gonna confront him directly and nothing in the manga really disproves that since most of their fights are h2h.

That "neutralizes all techniques," is down right a contradiction to domain(a technique) that is a counter to domain expansion. That interpretation is off, that's why it more of a space that renders all abilities that obstruct the way of the user who prompted the domain expansion, useless.

Bro DE nulls all technique bar DE or simple domain which are in-verse counters to it... are you seriously trying to argue with what the mangaka himself stated on panel? Like Nulling Gojo's limitless should already give you the answer, Geto himself says that even Gojo (the guy that can't be touched) while inside a DE his abilities are completely ignored and its just a direct hit. For it to be a direct hit it obviously had to nullify Gojo's limitless.

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You're not understanding that soul comes before the body mahito manipulating his souls alter his body at will for black rods to neg that it needs feats of nulling soul manipulation. Mahito manipulating his soul will make his body appearance change to whatever he wants to automatically.

He's body wouldn't be under his control tho. The rods don't need soul manip now, all changes mahito would want to make to the body simply won't happen, and the user of the black receivers would get control of the body

No. That's in you're point of view but that's not simply how Boruto and Kawaki would act when they just encounters a guy and they have to fight him for some reason. Just Like Borushiki went for a physical approach while fighting sasuke, there is no real reason for me to believe that this kids with no knowledge of the opponent are not gonna confront him directly and nothing in the manga really disproves that since most of their fights are h2h.

Hmm? Did you skip a few things? I don't disagree that boruto and Kawaki wouldn't engage in a h2h fight, I bluntly say they will.

Bro DE nulls all technique bar DE or simple domain which are in-verse counters to it... are you seriously trying to argue with what the mangaka himself stated on panel?

No, but what's said on panel is a contradiction you realize? You can't neutralize all techniques and not neutralize some techniques

Like Nulling Gojo's limitless should already give you the answer, Geto himself says that even Gojo (the guy that can't be touched) while inside a DE his abilities are completely ignored and its just a direct hit. For it to be a direct hit it obviously had to nullify Gojo's limitless.

Yeah, that's why I said this: Like you can still use you're abilities (which we see in them being able to still use their own domain and curse energy), you just can't use abilities that barricade you, since any hit is guaranteed to hit whilst in a domain expansion

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#29  Edited By ManimalMan

The kids would roll him, even going h2h, mahito needs to touch his opponent with his hands, people can hit him just fine without getting their bodies warped as long as they're not touching his hands.

And obviously neither boruto or kawaki are gonna try to hit his palms, they'd aimed for his head and torso and are more than fast enough to react if he tries to tag them.

Even he does manage to tag one of them, it immediately lets the other know not to try and touch him.

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It's not so much the battle but the rules that are against Mahito's favour. Two on one, energy equalisation, no domains and victory by incapacitation all aid Boruto and Kawaki in this battle. Bottom line, Mahito loses to OP rules

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Honestly, this match boils down to whether one of the duos has an attack that can directly touch a soul. If neither doesn't, it will be an ongoing destruction/regeneration towards Mahito ( If what people are saying is true that his soul is the reason he keeps regenerating constantly.)

OT: Stalemate???

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#32  Edited By Neutral-kun

Stalemate or if borushiki comes out, he gets sent to space and blows up like narutos rasengan did to him.

Also to anyone saying you cant touch him, wrong. Yuji was beating the bricks off of him and touching him multiple times throughout their first fight and no. Nowhere was it said that yujis cursed energy was protecting him.

And even if that was the case, without knowledge theyd be fine since they would mostly open up with a jutsu. Meaning no physical contact. Boruto would probably just use a rasengan or clone as usual. Plus if he kills ome of them anyway then the other isnt gonna touch him.

Also naruto with his KCM cloak touched his own soul and chakra is spiritual anyway so you can even argue regular jutsu would affect mahito. (And pretty much every other energy in the big 3)