Battle in Empty New York
Win by Death
This is a good match honestly. You might think BM is above Ben and i would understand why you would think that seeing as BM was introduced as a Thor/Hulk level superhero, but unfortunately his feats never really reached either of their levels, not consistently at least.
So in the comics BM would probably win every fight against Ben, but here where we don't depend on plot Ben definitely has the feats to match BM even if he loses he would certainly give him a run for his money.
Anti-Man busts energy opaque shield which was capable of containing supernova explosion. BM has tanked all of AM's energy attacks and is on par with him.
Adam blitzes fastest member of Troubleshooters. One of them easily perceived Monica's lightspeed attack.
Thing is obviously out of BM's league.
Blue Marvel is utterly unimpressive in every sense of the word. hes almost as inconsistent as Sentry.
Ben's feats have been getting more impressive as of late and rumor is hes supposed to be fighting Immortal Hulk soon (very interested to see how that's gonna turn out)
i'd argue for Ben here.
BM barely has hundred appearances and still got plenty of high-caliber feats.
I think he's quite consistent.
Lifted Enterprise , submarine , Arkansas sized meteor and many 10K ton+ heavy objects.
He could've cracked moon in half
but he didn't he threw a medal through the moon and thats really not as hard as it sounds
Adam one-shotted ultimate Hulk. Although he was from different time period , it's still impressive because Ult.Hulk even before power amp was wrecking most ultimateverse
he also struggled against Luke Cage (which was Bendis writing but meh) failed to do noticeable damage to pre amped Namor (all Namor did was compliment his punch, Invisible Woman has done more damage to Namor with a punch than Blue Marve has)
and Ultimate Hulk at that time was struggling against Ultimate Iron Man and depowered Ultimate Thor...
Defeated King Hyperion and was evenly matched with 13034 version (same guy who has 2 planet level feats).
he barely beat King Hyperion... Mimic and Blink had an easier time with KH then Blue Marvel did... and 13034 Hyperion is utterly unimpressive besides his lifting strength (which is where his 2 planet feats come from... he has 0 planetary striking feats) 13034 comparatively still has better feats than Blue Marvel does
Trashed Avengers team consisting of Sentry (who went toe-to-toe with WWH) , Wonder Man , Ares , Ms.Marvel and Iron Man.
Sentry also lost to Hercules, Red Hulk, and struggled with Namor... stop scaling of inconsistent characters.
this is Ben running rough shot over Wonder Man, Iron Man, Thor, Firestar, and Scarlet Witch...
i can telly you which team is more impressive.
Drew blood from battleworld Maestro. This version could tank planet explosion at point-blank.
i can show World War 2 era Namor drawing blood from Sentry... ya know what i will for funsies
drawing blood from someone is not as impressive as you are making it out to be.
Blue Marvel easily defeated Pagan who dominated the combined forces of Kurt's Avengers including Ionic Wonder Man , Vision , OG Thor , etc
the same guy who lost to Jack of Hearts? you are unbelievably stretching with this one.
KOed and sent Sentry flying out of orbit.
didn't Sentry come back and 1 shot him... the same Sentry who has lost to people like Hercules and Red Hulk.
your entire basis for ranking Blue Marvel is scaling... you scale him off Anti-Man, Hyperion, Sentry (never ever scale of Sentry thats the dumbest thing i've ever heard of doing), Pagan (who is also pretty inconsistent the guy lost to Jack of Hearts)
what you view as consistent i view as laughably inconsistent.
glad we had this talk
I don't think it's an outlier considering that BM has 100 comic appearances.
It's an outlier because he never approached supernova+ lvl ever again. Not to mention, during the fight against weakened Thanos Human Torch was doing just as much damage to Thanos as Blue Marvel was doing with his blasts, and Torch wasn't even going nova.
@toratorn: What about these?
1. Pushing Galactus back into his incubator along side other ultimates.
2. Charged up Ms. Marvel so she accessed Binary state.
1. Why is pushing Galactus supposed to be an impressive feat? But if you want to play this game, Ben could outright knock Galactus off his feet back in FF #49 and throw him on his ass in FF #122:
Not to mention, Adam didn't even do it alone - he had help from Photon and Captain Marvel, so it's not even an individual feat.
2. I mean, Adam can't damage a Punisher with his blasts, but then he uses his blasts to charge Carol to Binary and she one-shots an entire horde of them? How does that make any sense?
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