Blue Marvel vs Skaar!

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First Black Super Hero in the World vs Son of Green Scar and Oldstrong.

First Round:

- Both are Morals ON. In character.

- No Old Power for Skaar and he can't use his sword.

- No BFR.

- Fight takes place in indestructible planet 2x size of Earth with no civilians.

Second Round:

- Both are Morals OFF. They will do everything it takes to stop their foe.

- Skaar can use Old Power and his sword.

- No BFR.

- Fight takes place in indestructible planet.

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skaar gets massacred I can argue blue marvel can beat world war hulk.

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^LOL

Skaar both rounds.

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#4  Edited By Sy8000

Blue Marvel might win round 1 given I don't know feats for Skaar accomplished without Old Power, but Skaar wins round 2.

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BM stomps

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Blue Marvel

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@darkraiden: based on what?

Based on dem anti matter punches TDB, don't you know that one gram of anti matter equals the energy output of the Hiroshima nuke explosion? Ain't nothing that can beat dat.

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Guy who's vastly weaker than Sentry ain't stomping sh!t.

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@lvenger: how silly of me, antimatter punches can blow up the sun bruh!

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@darkraiden: based on what?

Oneshotting Sentry, 3 shotting King Hyperion, being enough of a threat that a team of Iron Man, Scarlet Witch, and Thor thought better to distract him and then leave.

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@darkraiden: He didn't one-shot Sentry and Sentry has a weakness to anti-matter which is literally Blue Marvel's powerset. The writer even confirmed all the Anti-Matter being emitted was messing Sentry up.

In order for Sentry to beat Blue Marvel under those conditions he'd have to he much, much stronger than Adam under neutral conditions.

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@darkraiden:

Oneshotting sentry with an antimatter punch - whilst the planet was surrounded in antimatter, antimatter being a weakness of sentrys. Moreover Adam got his @ss kicked handily before sentry stopped hitting him and Adam himself was later oneshotted by a bullrush.

3 shorting king hyperion after he got his @ss kicked and hyoerion started monologueing. Furthermore this is the same Hyperion who broke his wrist punching depowered juggernaut and couldn't overpower him physically, same kind of depowered juggernaut that hulk has dropped in two hits.

Thor was unworthy and BM also had Monica backing him, Thor without mjolnir had no way of even touching Monica, and IIRC he only backed down because wasp convinced him too.

Pray tell what's stopping skaar from turning him into Swiss cheese or oneshoting with a 100 trillion ton punch in round 2?

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What's so impressive about King Hyperion? i read Exiles a while ago, and he was pretty good at killing featless heroes but aside from that ???

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@caped_baldy: nothing. He broke his hand punching depowered juggernaut after his fight with BM and had to resort to heat vision to overpower cain.

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@caped_baldy: nothing. He broke his hand punching depowered juggernaut after his fight with BM and had to resort to heat vision to overpower cain.

Jesus christ; that's lame as hell. Guess he wasn't that strong after all.

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@darkraiden:

Oneshotting sentry with an antimatter punch - whilst the planet was surrounded in antimatter, antimatter being a weakness of sentrys. Moreover Adam got his @ss kicked handily before sentry stopped hitting him and Adam himself was later oneshotted by a bullrush.

3 shorting king hyperion after he got his @ss kicked and hyoerion started monologueing. Furthermore this is the same Hyperion who broke his wrist punching depowered juggernaut and couldn't overpower him physically, same kind of depowered juggernaut that hulk has dropped in two hits.

Thor was unworthy and BM also had Monica backing him, Thor without mjolnir had no way of even touching Monica, and IIRC he only backed down because wasp convinced him too.

Pray tell what's stopping skaar from turning him into Swiss cheese or oneshoting with a 100 trillion ton punch in round 2?

He didn't use a antimatter punch on Sentry btw. Just a normal one.

100 trillion ton punch wouldn't phase BM if King Hyperion's stronger punches couldn't KO him. This is the same King Hyperion who matched the planet busting, nanosecond speed Hyperion-712 (I think that's the number).

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dawg blue marvel broke his hand on cain. he gon catch skaars fade on dis 1

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@darkraiden: And yet, he wasn't able to destroy a random asteroid in Exiles...

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dawg blue marvel broke his hand on cain. he gon catch skaars fade on dis 1

No he didn't. King Hyperion did.

@darkraiden: And yet, he wasn't able to destroy a random asteroid in Exiles...

So? I don't see how that's relevant.

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@darkraiden:

He didn't use a antimatter punch on Sentry btw. Just a normal one.

Blue Marvel's strength literally comes from Anti-Matter and the writer confirmed the Anti-Matter was weakening Sentry.

Sentry>>>>>Blue Marvel.

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#24  Edited By MarvelComicFan6

Lol at the first post, round 1 goes to blue marvel. Round 2 goes to skaar.

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Skaar.

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@darkraiden:

He didn't use a antimatter punch on Sentry btw. Just a normal one.

Blue Marvel's strength literally comes from Anti-Matter and the writer confirmed the Anti-Matter was weakening Sentry.

Sentry>>>>>Blue Marvel.

Sentry got oneshotted and BM didn't use any anti-matter (it's literally visible when he does). BM is >=Sentry at the very least.

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@highaccuser said:

@darkraiden:

He didn't use a antimatter punch on Sentry btw. Just a normal one.

Blue Marvel's strength literally comes from Anti-Matter and the writer confirmed the Anti-Matter was weakening Sentry.

Sentry>>>>>Blue Marvel.

Sentry got oneshotted and BM didn't use any anti-matter (it's literally visible when he does). BM is >=Sentry at the very least.

But the writer himself said that anti-matter was used...

It doesn't matter if it was visible in the comic if the writer says otherwise.

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#28  Edited By AtheistKnowledge

It's funny when some people wont even accept what the writer himself said....

BM is massively overrated as usual.

@g2_ said:

skaar gets massacred I can argue blue marvel can beat world war hulk.

You can argue but your argumentation would get disintegrated.

Anyway round 1 is a toss up honestly, round 2 Skaar no contest.

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Blue Marvel always seemed more powerful to me but I'm not an expert.

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@absalom_strix: That's the whole problem with him, he always SEEMED more powerful then he actually is. When you actually learn the context between every feat like when he fought a massively weakened Sentry and still lost, beat King Hyperion who is a weakling that breaks his hand punching depowered Juggernaut, he beat's Anti-Man via plot device because his powerset was perfectly designed to counter his, not because he was actually more powerful, etc..

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#31  Edited By GreenScar1990

Skaar.

Both rounds.

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@darkraiden said:
@highaccuser said:

@darkraiden:

He didn't use a antimatter punch on Sentry btw. Just a normal one.

Blue Marvel's strength literally comes from Anti-Matter and the writer confirmed the Anti-Matter was weakening Sentry.

Sentry>>>>>Blue Marvel.

Sentry got oneshotted and BM didn't use any anti-matter (it's literally visible when he does). BM is >=Sentry at the very least.

But the writer himself said that anti-matter was used...

It doesn't matter if it was visible in the comic if the writer says otherwise.

This.

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@darkraiden: Ermmm why you saying one shot? He punched him into Orbit and sentry came back down in two panels one shotting BM

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@darkraiden said:
@highaccuser said:

@darkraiden:

He didn't use a antimatter punch on Sentry btw. Just a normal one.

Blue Marvel's strength literally comes from Anti-Matter and the writer confirmed the Anti-Matter was weakening Sentry.

Sentry>>>>>Blue Marvel.

Sentry got oneshotted and BM didn't use any anti-matter (it's literally visible when he does). BM is >=Sentry at the very least.

But the writer himself said that anti-matter was used...

It doesn't matter if it was visible in the comic if the writer says otherwise.

The writer confirmed the Anti-Matter in the air (the whole deal was Anti-Man who's made of it) was weakening Sentry. said nothing about BM's punch being Anti-Matter IIRC.

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@darkraiden: Ermmm why you saying one shot? He punched him into Orbit and sentry came back down in two panels one shotting BM

He was KO'd in orbit. Eyes rolled into the back of his head. That's a loss in any fight. Sentry simply had the benefit of the other Avengers being there to distract/fight BM.

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@mr0mister said:
@darkraiden said:
@highaccuser said:

@darkraiden:

He didn't use a antimatter punch on Sentry btw. Just a normal one.

Blue Marvel's strength literally comes from Anti-Matter and the writer confirmed the Anti-Matter was weakening Sentry.

Sentry>>>>>Blue Marvel.

Sentry got oneshotted and BM didn't use any anti-matter (it's literally visible when he does). BM is >=Sentry at the very least.

But the writer himself said that anti-matter was used...

It doesn't matter if it was visible in the comic if the writer says otherwise.

The writer confirmed the Anti-Matter in the air (the whole deal was Anti-Man who's made of it) was weakening Sentry. said nothing about BM's punch being Anti-Matter IIRC.

There was anti-matter in the air while they were fighting from Anti-Man. It didn't suddenly go away because Anti-Man isn't who he was fighting or because it supports your notion than Blue Marvel has Sentry level stats.

Skaar one-shots with Old Power.

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@darkraiden: sucker punching someone who didn't want to fight you isn't classed as a win in any scenario especially when that person comes straight back and whops your ass

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#38  Edited By DarkRaiden

@darkraiden said:
@mr0mister said:
@darkraiden said:
@highaccuser said:

@darkraiden:

He didn't use a antimatter punch on Sentry btw. Just a normal one.

Blue Marvel's strength literally comes from Anti-Matter and the writer confirmed the Anti-Matter was weakening Sentry.

Sentry>>>>>Blue Marvel.

Sentry got oneshotted and BM didn't use any anti-matter (it's literally visible when he does). BM is >=Sentry at the very least.

But the writer himself said that anti-matter was used...

It doesn't matter if it was visible in the comic if the writer says otherwise.

The writer confirmed the Anti-Matter in the air (the whole deal was Anti-Man who's made of it) was weakening Sentry. said nothing about BM's punch being Anti-Matter IIRC.

There was anti-matter in the air while they were fighting from Anti-Man. It didn't suddenly go away because Anti-Man isn't who he was fighting or because it supports your notion than Blue Marvel has Sentry level stats.

Skaar one-shots with Old Power.

What? I know. BM didn't use an anti-matter punch is the important part. That means he held back and still KO'd Sentry. And him 3 shotting KH is already better than his Sentry feat. Skaar can't hurt BM and would be oneshotted.

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@darkraiden: sucker punching someone who didn't want to fight you isn't classed as a win in any scenario especially when that person comes straight back and whops your ass

Sentry is the one who sucker punched him. They were fighting when BM hit him. Then Sentry blindsided him later when he was fighting the Avengers.

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What? I know. BM didn't use an anti-matter punch is the important part. That means he held back and still KO'd Sentry. And him 3 shotting KH is already better than his Sentry feat. Skaar can't hurt BM and would be oneshotted.

There's no evidence Blue Marvel's anti-matter punches are stronger than normal and I repeat, Sentry was weakened by Anti-Matter from other sources. There's no way to misinterpret that unless you're being willfully dense. King Hyperion barely has any feats and couldn't hurt Juggernaut who was de-powered doubly (by both the rejection of Cytorrak and nanomachines). His best feat involves fighting 712 Hyperion and barely going into melee with him to ascertain he had comparable strength.

Blue Marvel can't be hurt by Skaar and can one-shot him with his nuke level durability and mountain level punches when Skaar has shredded Hulk and produced trillion ton punches? Sure.

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@darkraiden said:

What? I know. BM didn't use an anti-matter punch is the important part. That means he held back and still KO'd Sentry. And him 3 shotting KH is already better than his Sentry feat. Skaar can't hurt BM and would be oneshotted.

There's no evidence Blue Marvel's anti-matter punches are stronger than normal and I repeat, Sentry was weakened by Anti-Matter from other sources. There's no way to misinterpret that unless you're being willfully dense. King Hyperion barely has any feats and couldn't hurt Juggernaut who was de-powered doubly (by both the rejection of Cytorrak and nanomachines). His best feat involves fighting 712 Hyperion and barely going into melee with him to ascertain he had comparable strength.

Blue Marvel can't be hurt by Skaar and can one-shot him with his nuke level durability and mountain level punches when Skaar has shredded Hulk and produced trillion ton punches? Sure.

KH killed Thors, Hulk, matched and tossed around 2 Hyperions, one of which is planet level/busting and has nanosecond speeds. That's enough to put him faaaaar above Skaar.

100 trillion tons is 90718474000000000 tons. Let's assume Skaar hits at Mach 1, so 343 m/s. the Kinetic energy (kg*m/s^2) is 1.0672938e+22. Around 1/4 the energy of a massive Earthquake according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_%28energy%29

BM was stated to almost split the moon in half with a medal. Gravitational binding energy of the moon = 1.2 x 10^29 joules, aka 10 million x more.

KH has matched planet busters (at least 10 zeroes added on to the 100 trillion ton punch or 10 billion x more)

BM is stronger and more durable.

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@highaccuser: Does Skaar have to build up power to do a trillion ton punch? Or can he hit that hard whenever he wants? Do you have a scan? Thanks

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@darkraiden:

KH killed Thors, Hulk,

Featless alternate versions.

matched and tossed around 2 Hyperions, one of which is planet level/busting and has nanosecond speeds. That's enough to put him faaaaar above Skaar.

He didn't match the Hyperion with feats. They barely had any time engaging in melee. That doesn't make him anywhere near as strong as 712 Hyperion or even Skaar.

100 trillion tons is 90718474000000000 tons. Let's assume Skaar hits at Mach 1, so 343 m/s. the Kinetic energy (kg*m/s^2) is 1.0672938e+22. Around 1/4 the energy of a massive Earthquake according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_%28energy%29

BM was stated to almost split the moon in half with a medal. Gravitational binding energy of the moon = 1.2 x 10^29 joules, aka 10 million x more.

Blue Marvel being able to split the moon was a baseless statement made by Uatu. Especially considering when he actually did throw the medal all it did was cause a small crater. Blue Marvel has no feats to suggest he can effect anything with moon level durability. His best strength feat is sending Sentry to orbit which is mountain level.

KH has matched planet busters (at least 10 zeroes added on to the 100 trillion ton punch or 10 billion x more)

Except 712 Hyperion never busted a planet and King Hyperion never matched him.

BM is stronger and more durable.

No, Skaar has continent level stats at least and Blue Marvel doesn't operate at that level feat wise.

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@highaccuser: Does Skaar have to build up power to do a trillion ton punch? Or can he hit that hard whenever he wants? Do you have a scan? Thanks

He had to build up some power IIRC.

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@darkraiden:

KH killed Thors, Hulk,

Featless alternate versions.

matched and tossed around 2 Hyperions, one of which is planet level/busting and has nanosecond speeds. That's enough to put him faaaaar above Skaar.

He didn't match the Hyperion with feats. They barely had any time engaging in melee. That doesn't make him anywhere near as strong as 712 Hyperion or even Skaar.

100 trillion tons is 90718474000000000 tons. Let's assume Skaar hits at Mach 1, so 343 m/s. the Kinetic energy (kg*m/s^2) is 1.0672938e+22. Around 1/4 the energy of a massive Earthquake according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_%28energy%29

BM was stated to almost split the moon in half with a medal. Gravitational binding energy of the moon = 1.2 x 10^29 joules, aka 10 million x more.

Blue Marvel being able to split the moon was a baseless statement made by Uatu. Especially considering when he actually did throw the medal all it did was cause a small crater. Blue Marvel has no feats to suggest he can effect anything with moon level durability. His best strength feat is sending Sentry to orbit which is mountain level.

KH has matched planet busters (at least 10 zeroes added on to the 100 trillion ton punch or 10 billion x more)

Except 712 Hyperion never busted a planet and King Hyperion never matched him.

BM is stronger and more durable.

No, Skaar has continent level stats at least and Blue Marvel doesn't operate at that level feat wise.

Hyperion matched Gladiator who oneshotted a planet. King Hyperion matched him many times and they had an extended fight. The Watcher stating that makes it pretty much fact. About as much as the statement of Skaar's punch being 100 trillion tons. BM's thus stronger and faster. You could even use the 1 gram = nuke thing and BM would at least match Skaar as he's shown using much more than a gram, even a kilogram to add on to his already Sentry oneshotting, KH 3 shotting punches.

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Hyperion matched Gladiator who oneshotted a planet.

It was three shots. And Gladiator broke Hyperion's back when he felt like it in one go.

King Hyperion matched him many times and they had an extended fight.

They mostly fought with Heat vision which is the only area King Hyperion showed comparable stats. Other than that he didn't significantly hurt Hyperion or tank many if any hits. Hyperion stomps King Hyperion by feats.

The Watcher stating that makes it pretty much fact.

No it doesn't. Being all-seeing doesn't make you immune to error or straight up exaggeration.

About as much as the statement of Skaar's punch being 100 trillion tons.

Which was actually measured by scientists...

BM's thus stronger and faster. You could even use the 1 gram = nuke thing and BM would at least match Skaar as he's shown using much more than a gram, even a kilogram to add on to his already Sentry oneshotting, KH 3 shotting punches.

There's no evidence the "gram of anti-matter equals nuke" factor has any relevancy in Blue Marvel's fights. Sentry was weakened and therefore far stronger than Blue Marvel while King Hyperion has no impressive durability feats.

Blue Marvel has mountain level punches. That's it.

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Blue marvel's most solid feat that everyone seems to ignore was when he beat pagan who was strong enough to solo kurt busiek's avengers which included thor, wonder man, vision, scarlet witch, and iron man. Blue marvel seems overall capable to comfortably match skarr

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blue marvel wins. he is just as strong or stronger. he can also fly and is leagues faster.

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#50 thedailybagel  Moderator  Online

This thread is a joke, skaar stomps.