Blue Marvel Vs. Major Force

I Searched it and couldn't Find Anything sooooo LETS GO! Who wins. Both are ready to Kill, no Civilians, Full Power. Fight Until Death or TKO. No BFR
 

Hmmmm....
 
I'm willing to give Blue Marvel the benefit of a doubt. He's impressed me ever since he's debuted. Major Force won't make it easy for him, though.

Blue Marvel was able to beat king hyperion so he wins

" Blue Marvel was able to beat king hyperion so he wins "

Blue Marvel 
+ He has a cooler costume

Blue Marvel.

" @Static Shock:  Compare three state distance to earth>>>moon distance "

" @Static Shock:  Compare three state distance to earth>>>moon distance "

"He then got knocked out by Sentry.  "

" @Lance Uppercut said:

"He then got knocked out by Sentry.  "

LMAO. I know, right.... "

Blue Marvel should win this, but not easy.

" Blue Marvel + He has a cooler costume "

You'd think with all of these people taking Blue Marvel, they would actually make an attempt to elaborate why. 
 
Maybe that's asking too much.

Blue Marvel.
 
Blue Marvel punches a hole in major forces suit then knocks him into space.

"Blue Marvel punches a hole in major forces suit then knocks him into space. "

" @Formidable said:

"Blue Marvel punches a hole in major forces suit then knocks him into space. "

Other Class 100+ beings couldn't just punch a hole in his suit like that. "

" That's doesn't mean they couldn't. It simply means they didn't. "

I wonder if Adam could find a way to manipulate the quantum field. 

" @Formidable said:

" That's doesn't mean they couldn't. It simply means they didn't. "

It also doesn't mean that Blue Marvel can, especially when Captain Atom, Superman, Vuldarian Guy Gardner, Lashina, Wonder Woman, and others couldn't. "

"They didn't. It doesn't mean they couldn't. Dilustel is not impervious and can be melted or torn or blasted through. From what I gather it has been breached before. 

" Now go away. I am not interested in your childish, illogical, emotionally based, rants. Your will simply argue for the sake of not losing irregardless of all else. "

" @BattleHeiz said:

" @Static Shock:  Compare three state distance to earth>>>moon distance "

It's better to compare the durability and resilience of Superman to Sentry. Major Force knocked around a guy that's generally stronger, more durable, and more resilient than the Sentry. "

"Blue Marvel is stronger now "

" @Formidable said:

"They didn't. It doesn't mean they couldn't. Dilustel is not impervious and can be melted or torn or blasted through. From what I gather it has been breached before. 

Major Force has not been breached by blunt force before, so why would it happen here? Yes, he has been melted before (by Superman). Yes, he has been blasted through (by Guy and Kyle). It took energy to do it, and Major Force cannot absorb energy. Also, Dilustel has been stated to be virtually indestructible, and Captain Atom has shown to be as such. He, unlike Major Force, only been breached under certain conditions. But, the battle isn't about Atom.
 

 @Formidable said:

" Now go away. I am not interested in your childish, illogical, emotionally based, rants. Your will simply argue for the sake of not losing irregardless of all else. "

I'm actually trying to have a friendly debate with you. There's no need for this. "

" @Formidable said:

"Blue Marvel punches a hole in major forces suit then knocks him into space. "

Other Class 100+ beings couldn't just punch a hole in his suit like that. "

" Dude was able to effortlessly lift 93,000 tons and yes one scratch and he is dead "

" If Dilustel were virtually indestructable then it would not have been breached. The lantern ring blasts are kinetic in nature unless they choose to use laser-like energies. His suit can be ripped or cut or burned.

"You typically start out quasi-friendly but then you start losing an argument and then you and your cronies typically gang up on posters and make childish and insulting comments in an attempt to goad them and draw them into a war of words and then they get banned because of the moderators being biased towards your little clique. I can only imagine how many people you guys have ran off from this site.  I am not interested in any type of debate with you. "

" @Static Shock: Superman is always using half of his strengh "

Major Force had his arm cut off by Katana. She has a Magic Blade but it has no such ability that it implies it is to the level of cutting through strong durable substances.

" @Formidable said:

" If Dilustel were virtually indestructible then it would not have been breached. The lantern ring blasts are kinetic in nature unless they choose to use laser-like energies. His suit can be ripped or cut or burned.

It is virtually indestructible, and that was stated in Who's Who of the DC Universe and throughout Captain Atom's first volume. Based on the examples I mentioned for Force, Blue Marvel isn't going to punch through him like that with blunt force if others couldn't. Energy blasts could, but it depends, since Major Force has taken Kyle's best shots in their last fight until he decapitated him. Major Force has also learned to generate energy shields as well, making the possibility of getting breached much more unlikely.
 

@Formidable said:

"You typically start out quasi-friendly but then you start losing an argument and then you and your cronies typically gang up on posters and make childish and insulting comments in an attempt to goad them and draw them into a war of words and then they get banned because of the moderators being biased towards your little clique. I can only imagine how many people you guys have ran off from this site.  I am not interested in any type of debate with you. "

Can we just put this behind us? It's old and meaningless now. "

"Yes. We can put this behind us. It is relatively old but is far from meaningless. "

"It obviously is not virtually indestructible as it has been breached and burned through and blasted through with an arguably kinetic-based blast. Who's who is not generally accepted as admissible is it? If he is now able to generate energy shields then, yes, it would make the possibility of punching or ripping through it much less likely. Blue marvel generates anti-matter energy, albeit indirectly. Theoretically he could utilize it to breach the suit and likely the shields as well although he has not been shown as of yet as being able to directly control said emissions. With that stated I now agree with your initial assessment that it will not be an easy fight. I still believe Blue Marvel will win but it will be a grueling battle.

" @Static Shock: The thing is he was able to knock him out with few blows and he also one shotted sentry to moon. Just marking how strong he is "

" @Formidable said:

"Yes. We can put this behind us. It is relatively old but is far from meaningless. "

Thank you. If I have ever disrespected you in any way, shape or form, I sincerely apologize.
 

@Formidable said:

"It obviously is not virtually indestructible as it has been breached and burned through and blasted through with an arguably kinetic-based blast. Who's who is not generally accepted as admissible is it? If he is now able to generate energy shields then, yes, it would make the possibility of punching or ripping through it much less likely. Blue marvel generates anti-matter energy, albeit indirectly. Theoretically he could utilize it to breach the suit and likely the shields as well although he has not been shown as of yet as being able to directly control said emissions. With that stated I now agree with your initial assessment that it will not be an easy fight. I still believe Blue Marvel will win but it will be a grueling battle.

Well, in Major Force's case, yes. That's because he's been breached, blasted through, cut through, and melted. It's just that because he takes blunt force better than energy-based assaults, I don't really see Blue Marvel being able to do it, let alone that easily. I normally accept the Who's Who book, although it's not as elaborate with character stats (to tell the truth, it doesn't have any). But, for the metal itself, it's pretty spot on and supported by comic book monologue. I could post examples of the metal being stated as such from comic books, but most of it pertains to Captain Atom and that fact that withstood so much more than Major Force has. So, I won't go there, because it doesn't support Major Force's individual durability.    But, yes. He's recently shown to project energy shields in Action Comics, during his most recent fight with Captain Atom. I somewhat agree with your argument. "

" @Formidable: You're welcome. Apology accepted. I'm glad we were able to come to a consensus on this debate. It's understood that the Public Enemies movie isn't admissible, but I think they changed it around because of how ridiculous Katana's ability to cut his arms was in the comic book. But, overall, it was a pretty enjoyable movie. "

" @Static Shock said:

" @Formidable: You're welcome. Apology accepted. I'm glad we were able to come to a consensus on this debate. It's understood that the Public Enemies movie isn't admissible, but I think they changed it around because of how ridiculous Katana's ability to cut his arms was in the comic book. But, overall, it was a pretty enjoyable movie. "

Aye. I am glad we could come to an amicable agreement as well. It seem that you are ready to assume the mantle of the Black Panther, T'Challa.  You're probably right as Katana cutting a suit that withstood blows from a kryptonian was indeed ludicrous. I thought the movie was enjoyable as well I only wish wish they would have showed the complete fight with Hawkman and Captain Marvel but it was still a great movie imo as was crisis on 2 earths. Can't wait for Superman/Batman: Apocalypse. "

" @Static Shock said:

" @Formidable said:

"Yes. We can put this behind us. It is relatively old but is far from meaningless. "

Thank you. If I have ever disrespected you in any way, shape or form, I sincerely apologize.
 

You're very welcome and thank you as well.  If I have ever disrespected you in any way, shape or form, I also wholeheartedly apologize.
 
 
@Static Shock said:

@Formidable said:

"It obviously is not virtually indestructible as it has been breached and burned through and blasted through with an arguably kinetic-based blast. Who's who is not generally accepted as admissible is it? If he is now able to generate energy shields then, yes, it would make the possibility of punching or ripping through it much less likely. Blue marvel generates anti-matter energy, albeit indirectly. Theoretically he could utilize it to breach the suit and likely the shields as well although he has not been shown as of yet as being able to directly control said emissions. With that stated I now agree with your initial assessment that it will not be an easy fight. I still believe Blue Marvel will win but it will be a grueling battle.

Well, in Major Force's case, yes. That's because he's been breached, blasted through, cut through, and melted. It's just that because he takes blunt force better than energy-based assaults, I don't really see Blue Marvel being able to do it, let alone that easily. I normally accept the Who's Who book, although it's not as elaborate with character stats (to tell the truth, it doesn't have any). But, for the metal itself, it's pretty spot on and supported by comic book monologue. I could post examples of the metal being stated as such from comic books, but most of it pertains to Captain Atom and that fact that withstood so much more than Major Force has. So, I won't go there, because it doesn't support Major Force's individual durability.    But, yes. He's recently shown to project energy shields in Action Comics, during his most recent fight with Captain Atom. I somewhat agree with your argument. "

Understood. And I agree that there is no real evidence of his suit being breached by punches outside of the Superman/Batman: Public enemies DVD which I know is not admissible so I agree that it doesn't appear to be probable or likely that Blue Marvel will breach it with strikes because, as you stated, beings as strong or stronger haven't been shown to do so. And until they actually show Blue Marvel attacking with anti-matter eyebeams (which would be awesome and very powerful imo) it is only speculation on my part that he could attack with energy. I completely agree with you that it will not be an easy win and that Major Force won't just be easily out-muscled as you stated earlier.
"

"Aye. I am glad we could come to an amicable agreement as well. It seem that you are ready to assume the mantle of the Black Panther, T'Challa.  You're probably right as Katana cutting a suit that withstood blows from a kryptonian was indeed ludicrous. I thought the movie was enjoyable as well I only wish wish they would have showed the complete fight with Hawkman and Captain Marvel but it was still a great movie imo as was crisis on 2 earths. Can't wait for Superman/Batman: Apocalypse. "

" @Formidable said:

" @Static Shock said:

" @Formidable: You're welcome. Apology accepted. I'm glad we were able to come to a consensus on this debate. It's understood that the Public Enemies movie isn't admissible, but I think they changed it around because of how ridiculous Katana's ability to cut his arms was in the comic book. But, overall, it was a pretty enjoyable movie. "

Aye. I am glad we could come to an amicable agreement as well. It seem that you are ready to assume the mantle of the Black Panther, T'Challa.  You're probably right as Katana cutting a suit that withstood blows from a kryptonian was indeed ludicrous. I thought the movie was enjoyable as well I only wish wish they would have showed the complete fight with Hawkman and Captain Marvel but it was still a great movie imo as was crisis on 2 earths. Can't wait for Superman/Batman: Apocalypse. "

What does that come out? "

" @Formidable said:

Understood. And I agree that there is no real evidence of his suit being breached by punches outside of the Superman/Batman: Public enemies DVD which I know is not admissible so I agree that it doesn't appear to be probable or likely that Blue Marvel will breach it with strikes because, as you stated, beings as strong or stronger haven't been shown to do so. And until they actually show Blue Marvel attacking with anti-matter eyebeams (which would be awesome and very powerful imo)it is only speculation on my part that he could attack with ANTI-MATTER energy in a cohesive, uni-directional manner such as eye-beams or linear blasts. I completely agree with you that it will not be an easy win and that Major Force won't just be easily out-muscled as you stated earlier.
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He released energy as an attack when he fought Anti-Man for the final time. He created a big enough positive plasma charge to (IIRC) disperse Anti-Man entirely. Hence the massive explosion at the end of the book.  "