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#1  Edited By Hadrelius

Who has the skills to win?

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#2  Edited By Hadrelius

Barry Flash says:

"Black Canary wins, her scream has the advantage to put Black Widow down, and beat her up."

Widow has a secret weapon as well.

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#3  Edited By Barry Flash

Black Canary wins, her scream has the advantage to put Black Widow down, and beat her up.

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#4  Edited By Barry Flash

Alpha says:

"Barry Flash says:
"Black Canary wins, her scream has the advantage to put Black Widow down, and beat her up."

Widow has a secret weapon as well. "

What is it?

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#5  Edited By warlock360

Alpha says:

"Barry Flash says:
"Black Canary wins, her scream has the advantage to put Black Widow down, and beat her up."

Widow has a secret weapon as well. "

lol

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#6  Edited By Sync

well is just to me is lame, ever human dc fighter is like one of the so called "best fighters on the planet" or has "trained under on the best"

thats the only advatage i give bck canary,

I can easly see blk widow dropping blk canary with, gas bombs or what ever tech she may want to use.

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#7  Edited By Hadrelius

Barry Flash says:

"Alpha says:
"Barry Flash says:
"Black Canary wins, her scream has the advantage to put Black Widow down, and beat her up."
Widow has a secret weapon as well. "
What is it?"

She has the widow bite thing that shoots from her wrist./.

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#8  Edited By Nighthunter

Black Canary is too much for Black Widow to handle

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#9  Edited By Apparition

canary

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#10  Edited By Static Shock

Canary

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#11  Edited By Sephirim

Canary

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#12  Edited By Sync

Nighthunter says:

"Black Canary is too much for Black Widow to handle"

why do you say that?????

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#13  Edited By AztekTheLost

I happen to have always liked spiders better than birds, so I think its obvious who my choice is

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#14  Edited By EpitomeofCool

Hand to hand, I think they're equally matched. But like it's been said before, Canary has her scream as an advantage. One loud screech of that and Widow is out!

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#15  Edited By Erik

I think the scream is overrated. Canary is not the best fighter out there, though she is really up there. I think that Widow is slightly above her in that department and she has her Widow's bite and is peak human. 

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#16  Edited By Erik

I think the scream is overrated. Canary is not the best fighter out there, though she is really up there. I think that Widow is slightly above her in that department and she has her Widow's bite and is peak human.     

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#17  Edited By Erik

I think the scream is overrated. Canary is not the best fighter out there, though she is really up there. I think that Widow is slightly above her in that department and she has her Widow's bite and is peak human.     

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#18  Edited By FinalStar86
@EpitomeofCool said:
"Hand to hand, I think they're equally matched. But like it's been said before, Canary has her scream as an advantage. One loud screech of that and Widow is out! "

No they really aren't, Black Canary has a victory over Lady Shiva, who would pick Widow apart
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#19  Edited By Erik
@FinalStar86 said:
" @EpitomeofCool said:
"Hand to hand, I think they're equally matched. But like it's been said before, Canary has her scream as an advantage. One loud screech of that and Widow is out! "
No they really aren't, Black Canary has a victory over Lady Shiva, who would pick Widow apart "
ABC logic. 
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#20  Edited By FinalStar86

Not really, its a testament to her skill, she's one iof the elite in DCU,  
 
I don;t even recall Widow beating a credible fighter, like..ever...
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#21  Edited By FLCL1

canary duh

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#22  Edited By Erik
@FinalStar86 said:
" Not really, its a testament to her skill, she's one iof the elite in DCU,   I don;t even recall Widow beating a credible fighter, like..ever... "
Captain America is a credible fighter and she could match him. Also, what were the conditions and circumstances in the fight with Shiva because Canary admitted to Batman that he would destroy her once. 
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#23  Edited By FinalStar86

You'll have to ask Gambler, he was the one that mentioned it.  But since he used it in an argument I am assuming it was a legitamte feat.  
This was more recent also [Birds of Prey series I believe]  Her saying Batman would destroy her is about as valid as Bats thinking he is better then Karate Kid.

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#24  Edited By sexy_merc
@erik said:
" I think the scream is overrated. Canary is not the best fighter out there, though she is really up there. I think that Widow is slightly above her in that department and she has her Widow's bite and is peak human.  "
How is the Canary Cry overrated when it could seriously injure Wonder Woman, and out-scream Silver Banshee?
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#25  Edited By Erik
@FinalStar86:  
Batman knows that Karate Kid would kill him. He even admitted that Karate Kid is far more skilled than he. When they fought, he only won because he cheated and he was still getting literally abused in that fight.  
 
And a character admission of another's superior skill is extremely valid. 
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#26  Edited By Static Shock
@FinalStar86 said:
No they really aren't, Black Canary has a victory over Lady Shiva
I read somewhere that Canary held her own, but didn't exactly beat her.
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#27  Edited By FinalStar86

@erik: I know,  Bats has considered himself a better fighter then Val before,  characters say ridiculous things that hold no validity all the time.  
 
 
@Sexy Merc:
It's also hurt Superman

 

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#28  Edited By Static Shock
@FinalStar86 said:
I don't even recall Widow beating a credible fighter, like..ever... "
Last time I saw Widow fight, she was defeated by Black Panther's Dora Milaje.
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#29  Edited By Static Shock
@FinalStar86 said:
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@erik: I know,  Bats has considered himself a better fighter then Val before

Like the time he told Val that he wouldn't lose to him a second time.
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#30  Edited By EpitomeofCool
@FinalStar86:  Yes really. Black Widow = expert martial artist (including karate, judo, aikido, savate, various styles of kung fu, and boxing).
 
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#31  Edited By Erik
@FinalStar86 said:
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@erik: I know,  Bats has considered himself a better fighter then Val before,  characters say ridiculous things that hold no validity all the time. "

Okay. That is fair enough. But if Batman said he was better once, he has since changed his mind. Also, I really do not think Canary is beating Batman. 
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#32  Edited By WW-Fan

i really love them both! Black Widow is one of my favorite marvel charecter! but i have to say black Canary wins this beguse of her scream and she's exelent fighter :)
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#33  Edited By FinalStar86
@erik:
@EpitomeofCool:
@Static Shock:

Are all of you lagging? 
 
Also Erik, when was that stated anyway, that Canary said Bruce would destroy her? 
 
also EpitomeoofCool, alot of characters can be considered expert fighters, it means nothing in comic book world though.  I consider Canary to be in DC Top ten 
 
Widow? Not sure if she would fit in Marvels top ten
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#34  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

Canary currently is nigh Shiva Cassandra level and her cry is extremely powerful it can destroy reinforced steel and concrete walls like nothing and even dropped Supergirl to her knees as well as Black Alice   

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#35  Edited By Erik
@FinalStar86:  
She told him in a BoP issue I believe.  
 
I would not consider Canary in the top ten. I can rattle off a few fighters that would take that place before her. Widow on the other hand is a match for Captain America and has been training her entire extremely long life to be an expert combatant. She may not be in the top ten either though. 
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#36  Edited By Silver2467

Both Black Canary and Black Widow are very good fighters. They both have fought some of the best in their respective universes. Canary has held hew own in hand to hand with Lady Shiva. She's proven to be one of the best in DC. Black Widow has had training in various government agencies and has proven to be one of the best in Marvel. She also has her enhancements that put her at peak human physical conditioning. In the area of physical power, Widow would take it because of her enhancements. She does have her Widow Bite which could be devastating if she can manage to hit Canary with it, but Dinah can be very agile and could probably avoid it. Black Widow's other equipment probably wouldn't be anything that Black Canary couldn't handle either. In straight hand to hand, I wouldn't say either would gain the advantage. They're both too skilled, and a martial arts fight could go on a long time. Canary's scream could be the deciding factor in this. Like I said, their combat skill would probably be roughly equal, and Widow's weaponry can be avoided much easier than the Canary cry. Canary can damage extremely durable characters with her scream; if she used it on Black Widow, the fights over. It does cover much more area than Widow's Bite does, and thus, I think Canary would have an easier time making it connect. Based on their relative equality in combat and the difficulty Widow will have defeating Dinah with her weapons, I give this to Black Canary because of her scream. 

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#37  Edited By Static Shock
@FinalStar86 said:
" @erik: @EpitomeofCool: @Static Shock: Are all of you lagging? 
 Nope.
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#38  Edited By Silver2467
@FinalStar86 said:
" @erik: @EpitomeofCool: @Static Shock: Are all of you lagging?  Also Erik, when was that stated anyway, that Canary said Bruce would destroy her?  also EpitomeoofCool, alot of characters can be considered expert fighters, it means nothing in comic book world though.  I consider Canary to be in DC Top ten  Widow? Not sure if she would fit in Marvels top ten "
Honestly, if not for her Canary cry, I would say that BatMan would destroy her. She's skilled and would give him an extremely hard fight, but BatMan is probably slightly better than she is and is much more resourceful. If somehow her scream wasn't a factor, I would give BatMan a victory over Canary. 
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#39  Edited By Erik
@Silver2467:  
Solid argument. I concede. 
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#40  Edited By EpitomeofCool
@FinalStar86: Umm that's nice. I would consider Widow in the top ten.
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#41  Edited By FinalStar86
@EpitomeofCool said:
" @FinalStar86: Umm that's nice. I would consider Widow in the top ten. "

She isn't
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#42  Edited By EpitomeofCool
@FinalStar86 said:
" @EpitomeofCool said:
" @FinalStar86: Umm that's nice. I would consider Widow in the top ten. "
She isn't "
Ugh, seriously!? That's YOUR OPINION nota FACT. Go back and read my first post.
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#43  Edited By FinalStar86
@EpitomeofCool:
That's a general opinion
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#44  Edited By FLCL1
@EpitomeofCool said:
" @FinalStar86: Umm that's nice. I would consider Widow in the top ten. "

top ten what? best fighters? not even close
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#45  Edited By EpitomeofCool
@FinalStar86: No, it's yours.
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#46  Edited By FinalStar86
@EpitomeofCool said:
" @FinalStar86: No, it's yours. "


no its general

 
@FLCL1 said:

"@EpitomeofCool said:
" @FinalStar86: Umm that's nice. I would consider Widow in the top ten. "
top ten what? best fighters? not even close "

truth
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#47  Edited By sexy_merc

Champion of the Universe, DareDevil, Elektra, Steve Rogers, Iron Fist, Black Panther, Shang Chi, Gamora, Wolverine, Bucky, Taskmaster and Karnak are all above Black Widow in skill. She would make top 20 in Marvel though.

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#48  Edited By EpitomeofCool
@FinalStar86:  Quit with the back and fourth already. I first said Black Canary would win, be happy, but hand to hand there about equal. If you're just going to reply to everything I say without a valid argument, don't bother!
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#49  Edited By FinalStar86
@EpitomeofCool said:
" @FinalStar86:  Quit with the back and fourth already. I first said Black Canary would win, be happy, but hand to hand there about equal. If you're just going to reply to everything I say without a valid argument, don't bother! "


They aren't equal, and you are the only person that thinks Widow is in the top 10 in Marvel U

Plus based on your post from other threads, you have no idea what you are talking about

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Black Canary. Black Canary in The Wedding Album storyline easily defeated Amazon after Amazon in the arena. She used her Canary Cry full force against Black Lantern Green Arrow and ripped his body apart, althought being a Black Lantern he reformed.