Hand to hand, I think they're equally matched. But like it's been said before, Canary has her scream as an advantage. One loud screech of that and Widow is out!
I think the scream is overrated. Canary is not the best fighter out there, though she is really up there. I think that Widow is slightly above her in that department and she has her Widow's bite and is peak human.
I think the scream is overrated. Canary is not the best fighter out there, though she is really up there. I think that Widow is slightly above her in that department and she has her Widow's bite and is peak human.
I think the scream is overrated. Canary is not the best fighter out there, though she is really up there. I think that Widow is slightly above her in that department and she has her Widow's bite and is peak human.
"Hand to hand, I think they're equally matched. But like it's been said before, Canary has her scream as an advantage. One loud screech of that and Widow is out! "
No they really aren't, Black Canary has a victory over Lady Shiva, who would pick Widow apart
"Hand to hand, I think they're equally matched. But like it's been said before, Canary has her scream as an advantage. One loud screech of that and Widow is out! "
No they really aren't, Black Canary has a victory over Lady Shiva, who would pick Widow apart "
" Not really, its a testament to her skill, she's one iof the elite in DCU, I don;t even recall Widow beating a credible fighter, like..ever... "
Captain America is a credible fighter and she could match him. Also, what were the conditions and circumstances in the fight with Shiva because Canary admitted to Batman that he would destroy her once.
You'll have to ask Gambler, he was the one that mentioned it. But since he used it in an argument I am assuming it was a legitamte feat. This was more recent also [Birds of Prey series I believe] Her saying Batman would destroy her is about as valid as Bats thinking he is better then Karate Kid.
" I think the scream is overrated. Canary is not the best fighter out there, though she is really up there. I think that Widow is slightly above her in that department and she has her Widow's bite and is peak human. "
How is the Canary Cry overrated when it could seriously injure Wonder Woman, and out-scream Silver Banshee?
@FinalStar86: Batman knows that Karate Kid would kill him. He even admitted that Karate Kid is far more skilled than he. When they fought, he only won because he cheated and he was still getting literally abused in that fight.
And a character admission of another's superior skill is extremely valid.
i really love them both! Black Widow is one of my favorite marvel charecter! but i have to say black Canary wins this beguse of her scream and she's exelent fighter :)
Also Erik, when was that stated anyway, that Canary said Bruce would destroy her?
also EpitomeoofCool, alot of characters can be considered expert fighters, it means nothing in comic book world though. I consider Canary to be in DC Top ten
Widow? Not sure if she would fit in Marvels top ten
Canary currently is nigh Shiva Cassandra level and her cry is extremely powerful it can destroy reinforced steel and concrete walls like nothing and even dropped Supergirl to her knees as well as Black Alice
@FinalStar86: She told him in a BoP issue I believe.
I would not consider Canary in the top ten. I can rattle off a few fighters that would take that place before her. Widow on the other hand is a match for Captain America and has been training her entire extremely long life to be an expert combatant. She may not be in the top ten either though.
Both Black Canary and Black Widow are very good fighters. They both have fought some of the best in their respective universes. Canary has held hew own in hand to hand with Lady Shiva. She's proven to be one of the best in DC. Black Widow has had training in various government agencies and has proven to be one of the best in Marvel. She also has her enhancements that put her at peak human physical conditioning. In the area of physical power, Widow would take it because of her enhancements. She does have her Widow Bite which could be devastating if she can manage to hit Canary with it, but Dinah can be very agile and could probably avoid it. Black Widow's other equipment probably wouldn't be anything that Black Canary couldn't handle either. In straight hand to hand, I wouldn't say either would gain the advantage. They're both too skilled, and a martial arts fight could go on a long time. Canary's scream could be the deciding factor in this. Like I said, their combat skill would probably be roughly equal, and Widow's weaponry can be avoided much easier than the Canary cry. Canary can damage extremely durable characters with her scream; if she used it on Black Widow, the fights over. It does cover much more area than Widow's Bite does, and thus, I think Canary would have an easier time making it connect. Based on their relative equality in combat and the difficulty Widow will have defeating Dinah with her weapons, I give this to Black Canary because of her scream.
" @erik: @EpitomeofCool: @Static Shock: Are all of you lagging? Also Erik, when was that stated anyway, that Canary said Bruce would destroy her? also EpitomeoofCool, alot of characters can be considered expert fighters, it means nothing in comic book world though. I consider Canary to be in DC Top ten Widow? Not sure if she would fit in Marvels top ten "
Honestly, if not for her Canary cry, I would say that BatMan would destroy her. She's skilled and would give him an extremely hard fight, but BatMan is probably slightly better than she is and is much more resourceful. If somehow her scream wasn't a factor, I would give BatMan a victory over Canary.
Champion of the Universe, DareDevil, Elektra, Steve Rogers, Iron Fist, Black Panther, Shang Chi, Gamora, Wolverine, Bucky, Taskmaster and Karnak are all above Black Widow in skill. She would make top 20 in Marvel though.
@FinalStar86: Quit with the back and fourth already. I first said Black Canary would win, be happy, but hand to hand there about equal. If you're just going to reply to everything I say without a valid argument, don't bother!
" @FinalStar86: Quit with the back and fourth already. I first said Black Canary would win, be happy, but hand to hand there about equal. If you're just going to reply to everything I say without a valid argument, don't bother! "
They aren't equal, and you are the only person that thinks Widow is in the top 10 in Marvel U
Plus based on your post from other threads, you have no idea what you are talking about
Black Canary. Black Canary in The Wedding Album storyline easily defeated Amazon after Amazon in the arena. She used her Canary Cry full force against Black Lantern Green Arrow and ripped his body apart, althought being a Black Lantern he reformed.
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