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#1 Edited by MatthewParker (4562 posts) - - Show Bio

I just saw a post about Natasha running the arrow gauntlet and people were saying Diggle could beat her in a h2h fight which really bothered me because personally I think Natasha would kick his butt. What do you guys think?

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#2 Posted by SupBatz (2186 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah... Dig isn't a pushover or anything, but Black Widow definitely has the edge in this fight.

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#3 Edited by darkbeam (2873 posts) - - Show Bio
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#4 Posted by MatthewParker (4562 posts) - - Show Bio

@darkbeam: yeah I realized that after I posted it, do you know how I can fix it? Sorry I'm new to this site!

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#5 Posted by MAZAHS117 (12747 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sorry, but Diggle would get his a$$ beat by Widow

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#6 Posted by Guardiandevil83 (9348 posts) - - Show Bio

Widow drops him. All Diggle seems to have is self-defense 101. Widow broke a guys wrist, who had managed to get hands on her from behind. The only thing John has over her is strength. So did Hawkeye though, and we saw how that ended.

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#7 Posted by darkbeam (2873 posts) - - Show Bio

@matthewparker: Only a mod can move it.I can't call one right now I'm on my phone lol but you can if your on a computer.

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#8 Edited by Farkam (12042 posts) - - Show Bio

Diggle gets fodderized.

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#9 Posted by SaintWildcard (21845 posts) - - Show Bio

@darkbeam: if you do a full edit you can move it

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#11 Edited by Black_Of_Shadow (852 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Widow.

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#12 Posted by Frisky4 (9216 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually think Diggle might take this.

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#13 Posted by Sachmoo (2500 posts) - - Show Bio

Why the bump... WHYYYYY?!?

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#14 Posted by IndomitableRegal (16260 posts) - - Show Bio

Diggle can't beat Widow.

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#15 Posted by deactivated-5a220d15cc740 (2527 posts) - - Show Bio

Natasha wrecks. She's out of Diggle's league.

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#16 Posted by AngelJax (11763 posts) - - Show Bio

Nat

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#17 Posted by DSTREET45 (5281 posts) - - Show Bio

Dig.

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#18 Posted by Omega_101 (46 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Widow

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#19 Posted by RBT (28625 posts) - - Show Bio

Dig.

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#20 Posted by tj849 (8569 posts) - - Show Bio

Dig stomps Natasha.

She couldnt to ANYTHING to Bucky lmao.

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#21 Posted by jashro44 (53171 posts) - - Show Bio

@tj849 said:

Dig stomps Natasha.

She couldnt to ANYTHING to Bucky lmao.

Diggle wouldn't have much of a shot against Bucky either.

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#22 Posted by jayskee (4885 posts) - - Show Bio

Widow

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#23 Posted by tj849 (8569 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: He would at least give him a fight like Cap did. Natasha didnt even make Bucky try.

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#24 Posted by ParagonNate (4638 posts) - - Show Bio

Natasha

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#25 Posted by deactivated-5a694c5def8ac (959 posts) - - Show Bio

@tj849 said:

@jashro44: He would at least give him a fight like Cap did. Natasha didnt even make Bucky try.

He really wouldn't.

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#26 Posted by tj849 (8569 posts) - - Show Bio
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#27 Posted by uugieboogie (13257 posts) - - Show Bio

@tj849 said:

@jashro44: He would at least give him a fight like Cap did. Natasha didnt even make Bucky try.

So are you saying Dig can beat Bucky and is on the same level as Cap?

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#28 Posted by deactivated-59e2a0eac9b65 (148 posts) - - Show Bio

@tj849: Diggle is not matching Cap's performance against Bucky.

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#29 Posted by deactivated-5a694c5def8ac (959 posts) - - Show Bio
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#30 Posted by tj849 (8569 posts) - - Show Bio

@tj849 said:

@jashro44: He would at least give him a fight like Cap did. Natasha didnt even make Bucky try.

So are you saying Dig can beat Bucky and is on the same level as Cap?

Did Cap beat Bucky? No.

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#31 Edited by uugieboogie (13257 posts) - - Show Bio

@tj849: Cap choked him out in their final fight, that’s a W in my book. But that’s neither here nor there right now. Why in the world would Dig give Bucky the same fight Cap did? He’s not as strong, fast, durable or skilled. IIRC Dig doesn’t even have a solid win against any fighter with a name yet you’re basically comparing him to Cap.

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#32 Posted by tj849 (8569 posts) - - Show Bio

@uugieboogie: You're underestimating Dig. Hes a lot more skilled then you think.

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#33 Edited by uugieboogie (13257 posts) - - Show Bio

@tj849: And you’re deflecting. You said Dig can give Bucky a fight like Cap did which would imply Dig is on Cap’s level. Cap outclasses him in almost every category by a huge margin. How exactly does Dig fight Bucky like Cap did?

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#34 Posted by tj849 (8569 posts) - - Show Bio

@uugieboogie: Cap still got stomped on by Bucky though. You're acting like getting rekt, but lasting 5 seconds is a hard thing for Dig to do.

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#35 Posted by jashro44 (53171 posts) - - Show Bio

@tj849 said:

@jashro44: He would at least give him a fight like Cap did. Natasha didnt even make Bucky try.

Diggle would get curb stomped....

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#36 Posted by tj849 (8569 posts) - - Show Bio
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#38 Posted by uugieboogie (13257 posts) - - Show Bio

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@uugieboogie: Cap still got stomped on by Bucky though. You're acting like getting rekt, but lasting 5 seconds is a hard thing for Dig to do.

In their first fight Cap disabled his arm and had the upper hand. In their second fight Cap choked him out and had the upperhand while also focusing on inserting the chip. Bucky only got Cap in CW via BFR and by overpowering him with his mechanical arm. And you’re still deflecting lol. How is Dig comparable to Cap in the slightest? You have yet to provide a single feat or a single showing to put Dig on the same level as the super soldiers.

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#39 Posted by tj849 (8569 posts) - - Show Bio

@uugieboogie: im talking about the elevator take down scene...

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#41 Posted by jashro44 (53171 posts) - - Show Bio

@tj849 said:

@jashro44: thats not what im on about

...You said Diggle could do similarly as well as Cap did. Cap beat Bucky in his first 2 fights. There fight in civil war can barely be considered a real fight as Cap would likely be holding back...

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#42 Posted by Arcus1 (27817 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:
@tj849 said:

@jashro44: thats not what im on about

...You said Diggle could do similarly as well as Cap did. Cap beat Bucky in his first 2 fights. There fight in civil war can barely be considered a real fight as Cap would likely be holding back...

Especially since Cap performed better against Panther, Spider Man, and Iron Man in civil war

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@jashro44: He would at least give him a fight like Cap did. Natasha didnt even make Bucky try.

lol how is Diggle as much of a threat as Cap?

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#44 Posted by mrmonster (15629 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Widow

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#45 Posted by tj849 (8569 posts) - - Show Bio

@arcus1: Sigh im not saying he his as much of a threat as Cap.

Im saying he would give Bucky a bit of a fight, not the same thing.

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#46 Posted by Arcus1 (27817 posts) - - Show Bio

@tj849: Cap's beaten Bucky, so...?

If you were just talking about the one scene in Civil War where Cap got taken off guard by brainwashed Bucky, probably should've referenced that specifically, cause every other fight between Cap and Bucky has been even or a win for Cap

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#47 Posted by The_Magister (14312 posts) - - Show Bio

Widow handily.


Stop comparing Diggle to the high tier vigilantes and agents of the MCU.

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#48 Posted by DanielDaRipper (5537 posts) - - Show Bio

Dig

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#49 Posted by omriamar (7068 posts) - - Show Bio

Widow is way more skilled if you ask me she will make quick work out of him

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#50 Posted by DanielDaRipper (5537 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:
@tj849 said:

Dig stomps Natasha.

She couldnt to ANYTHING to Bucky lmao.

Diggle wouldn't have much of a shot against Bucky either.

I'd argue Dig could put up a fight against Bucky, but I do think Bucky would win. Diggle somewhat gave a fight to Post-League training Oliver, showcasing his skill but ultimately losing. Diggle has also blocked and parried attacks from Dominators (although inconsistent, Dominators are depicted as around super soldier level of strength).

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As for his fight with Oliver after his League training.

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