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#1 Edited by TonyMartial (8840 posts) - - Show Bio
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Strictly Melee/Baton battle

No shock function on Widows batons

Takes place here

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#2 Posted by lubub55 (12877 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt destroys.

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#3 Posted by MarvelandDCfan24 (7160 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt

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#4 Edited by Amendment50 (15152 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt wins. Can't believe this hasn't been done.

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#5 Posted by deactivated-5b9c488ed7f76 (10909 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Posted by pastepotpete1 (3332 posts) - - Show Bio

daredevil wins but no one is stomping here

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#7 Posted by ANTHP2000 (25766 posts) - - Show Bio

Widow with mid-high dif.

Just like with Mockingbird, there's Daredevil and then there's people who deal with actual high threat level.

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#8 Posted by RBT (27160 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt stomps. Every single advantage in the book.

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#9 Posted by DSTREET45 (5242 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt

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#10 Posted by WhyZoSerious (1678 posts) - - Show Bio

Widow. the level of the movies is just higher - she has fought aliens and Proxima, also Matt got surprised by Frank's speed, when Punisher kicked his ass on the roof. If he can't handle his speed, he won't be able to handle Nat's speed and agility.

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#11 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (15382 posts) - - Show Bio

@whyzoserious: those are just titles because Matt has better feats than Chitauri’s for sure. Proxima she fought alongside Okoye. And Matt was able to keep up with Black sky who sliced a bullet so to say he can’t keep up with Nat is absurd.

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#12 Posted by deactivated-5bd0d99b6c6f7 (1676 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt wins.

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#13 Posted by Latis (114 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt is just as skilled, can take more damage and dish it out too coupled with his enhanced senses he will have better reflexes. Matt wins

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#14 Posted by King-Ragnar (3735 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt is better in every way.

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#15 Posted by foxerdes (9960 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt.

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#16 Edited by WhyZoSerious (1678 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt never fought chitauri, outriders, Proxima or Corvus. Sorry for his loyal fan base, but he loses by feats. He MIGHt be able to fight them and survive, but it ain't certain. And Nat fought them, survive, without shield, armor or superpowers, so your "more skilled" means nothing but dogshet.

they are not in the same league - one fights monsters from other worlds and the baddest monster, the other got injured and struggle against a bum.

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#17 Posted by ANTHP2000 (25766 posts) - - Show Bio

I was looking for someone to CaV this exact matchup with btw.

If anyone's willing to put their money where their mouth is, hit me up.

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#18 Posted by buildhare (8615 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt handily, it's not a stomp but it's borderline.

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#19 Posted by King-Ragnar (3735 posts) - - Show Bio

I was looking for someone to CaV this exact matchup with btw.

If anyone's willing to put their money where their mouth is, hit me up.

Weren't you already doing one?

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/cav-mcu-black-widow-anthp2000-vs-mcu-daredevil-ame-1911578/?page=1

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#20 Posted by ANTHP2000 (25766 posts) - - Show Bio
@anthp2000 said:

I was looking for someone to CaV this exact matchup with btw.

If anyone's willing to put their money where their mouth is, hit me up.

Weren't you already doing one?

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/cav-mcu-black-widow-anthp2000-vs-mcu-daredevil-ame-1911578/?page=1

Yes, with someone *ahem*@amendment50*ahem*.... but it wasn't these particular rules (it was pure H2H combat), and both my knowledge on the characters and experience in live action debating has grown a lot since then. Also, more featz.

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#21 Edited by ANTHP2000 (25766 posts) - - Show Bio

Also, I found this amazing art directly translating comicbooks to the MCU;

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I really want to see them interacting, even though we're never gonna get it.

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#22 Posted by deactivated-5bf470b432518 (5801 posts) - - Show Bio

Widow

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#23 Posted by Amendment50 (15152 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000: I still am; you ssid to tag you when I had a good time to pick it up again.

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#24 Posted by Helloman (28540 posts) - - Show Bio

Widow wins.

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#25 Posted by ANTHP2000 (25766 posts) - - Show Bio

@amendment50: Cool, a confirmation that we'll do it sometime is all I needed.

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#26 Posted by Amcu (16234 posts) - - Show Bio

Matthew.

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#27 Posted by Morpheus_ (34335 posts) - - Show Bio

The guy whose credibility doesn't hinge on beating someone who restrained another someone for 2 seconds wins.

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#28 Posted by AvengingWidow (127 posts) - - Show Bio

Widow better showings

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#31 Posted by The_Hajduk (5936 posts) - - Show Bio

The guy whose credibility doesn't hinge on beating someone who restrained another someone for 2 seconds wins.

What about beating up Proxima and those guys?

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#33 Posted by TonyMartial (8840 posts) - - Show Bio

@angeljax: First one is full gear, second one is hand to hand.

This is strictly Melee.

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#34 Posted by Hiddenstorm (240 posts) - - Show Bio

Widow wins decisively

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#36 Posted by deactivated-5c8fd6cb3e4f4 (18365 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt pretty decisively

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#37 Posted by nerdchore (8121 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt

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#38 Posted by mexcomics2078 (2399 posts) - - Show Bio

matt in a good fight. he is basically a male black widow with superior durability ( due to his suit ) and striking feats

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#39 Posted by jayskee (4820 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil

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#40 Edited by EasternGlider (66 posts) - - Show Bio

Natalia.

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#41 Posted by boschePG (6313 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt wins.

If Matt can hold his own against an amped Elektra than he would wreck Natasha

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#42 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13593 posts) - - Show Bio

DD. This is Defenders DD, I'm assuming, not S1 or S2. Dude was an absolute beast.

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#43 Edited by AvengingWidow (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@mexcomics2078: Superior Durability LOL Widow better at everything except speed feat wise

•She took a hit form hulk and fought Hawkeye afterwards

•She took a knee to the face form Proxima Midnight and got up quickly

That two is Enough and I can go on

•She fought Proxima Midnight and Corvus Glaive nuff said

•Fought ultron drones with her bare hands even Punch the shit out of one

•She fought outriders I would like to see Matt Survive the battle of wakanda

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#44 Posted by AsianAntics (695 posts) - - Show Bio

@latis said:

Matt is just as skilled, can take more damage and dish it out too coupled with his enhanced senses he will have better reflexes. Matt wins

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#45 Posted by ANTHP2000 (25766 posts) - - Show Bio

Natasha, she's the better fighter and hits harder, though the latter can almost be bridged by the difference in damage soak. She also has a better weapon, I think.

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#46 Posted by AsianAntics (695 posts) - - Show Bio

Natasha, she's the better fighter and hits harder, though the latter can almost be bridged by the difference in damage soak. She also has a better weapon, I think.

Even without the shock functions? I'd say Matt's billy club is better here cause of its versatility while Natasha loses hers.

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#47 Posted by Amcu (16234 posts) - - Show Bio

Natasha is very skilled but Matt is a level above.

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#48 Edited by The_Magister (13486 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt in a great, brutal fight

But Natasha definitely has better fodder feats

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#49 Posted by DanielDaRipper (5300 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt beats her down with those awkwardly short billy clubs.

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#50 Posted by Greysentinel365 (6000 posts) - - Show Bio