Strictly Melee/Baton battle
No shock function on Widows batons
Matt destroys.
Widow. the level of the movies is just higher - she has fought aliens and Proxima, also Matt got surprised by Frank's speed, when Punisher kicked his ass on the roof. If he can't handle his speed, he won't be able to handle Nat's speed and agility.
Matt never fought chitauri, outriders, Proxima or Corvus. Sorry for his loyal fan base, but he loses by feats. He MIGHt be able to fight them and survive, but it ain't certain. And Nat fought them, survive, without shield, armor or superpowers, so your "more skilled" means nothing but dogshet.
they are not in the same league - one fights monsters from other worlds and the baddest monster, the other got injured and struggle against a bum.
I was looking for someone to CaV this exact matchup with btw.
If anyone's willing to put their money where their mouth is, hit me up.
Weren't you already doing one?
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/cav-mcu-black-widow-anthp2000-vs-mcu-daredevil-ame-1911578/?page=1
I was looking for someone to CaV this exact matchup with btw.
If anyone's willing to put their money where their mouth is, hit me up.
Weren't you already doing one?
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/cav-mcu-black-widow-anthp2000-vs-mcu-daredevil-ame-1911578/?page=1
Yes, with someone *ahem*@amendment50*ahem*.... but it wasn't these particular rules (it was pure H2H combat), and both my knowledge on the characters and experience in live action debating has grown a lot since then. Also, more featz.
@anthp2000: I still am; you ssid to tag you when I had a good time to pick it up again.
@amendment50: Cool, a confirmation that we'll do it sometime is all I needed.
Daredevil.
And this has been done, only difference is no Shock function.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/mcu-black-widow-vs-mcu-daredevil-1661570/?page=6
The guy whose credibility doesn't hinge on beating someone who restrained another someone for 2 seconds wins.
What about beating up Proxima and those guys?
Matt wins. Can't believe this hasn't been done.
It has
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/mcu-black-widow-vs-mcu-daredevil-
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/daredevil-vs-black-widow-both-mcu-1663990/
OT: Nat should win
@angeljax: First one is full gear, second one is hand to hand.
This is strictly Melee.
matt in a good fight. he is basically a male black widow with superior durability ( due to his suit ) and striking feats
@mexcomics2078: Superior Durability LOL Widow better at everything except speed feat wise
•She took a hit form hulk and fought Hawkeye afterwards
•She took a knee to the face form Proxima Midnight and got up quickly
That two is Enough and I can go on
•She fought Proxima Midnight and Corvus Glaive nuff said
•Fought ultron drones with her bare hands even Punch the shit out of one
•She fought outriders I would like to see Matt Survive the battle of wakanda
@latis said:
Matt is just as skilled, can take more damage and dish it out too coupled with his enhanced senses he will have better reflexes. Matt wins
Natasha, she's the better fighter and hits harder, though the latter can almost be bridged by the difference in damage soak. She also has a better weapon, I think.
Even without the shock functions? I'd say Matt's billy club is better here cause of its versatility while Natasha loses hers.
Matt in a great, brutal fight
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