BATMAN AND NIGHTWING don't have any prep time neither do
black panther and daredevil
black panther and daredevil vs batman and nightwing
I'll got with team one. Daredevil can beat Nightwing and Black Panther can definately handle Batman in this scenario. It won't be easy, but he can do it.
" NW can easily ko DD with his suit security if DD tried to get close. -_- "If it were that easy then why doesn't he just always use his suit security instead of actual skill?
Daredevil is arguably a better fighter, has better feats of strength, and his senses give him the edge he would need to win this fight.
" good luck getting past NW's padded armor regularly for nerve strikes against a higher skilled MA fighter then DD. also NW can just as easily block the billy club with his escrimas. "Daredevil has managed to hit nerve points through padded armor before. In Guardian Devil Msyterio's right hand man was wearing a suit to make him appear bigger and too increase his strength, yet Matt was able to hit a nerve near his right pectoral with no trouble (this particular nerve could have killed the victim if he had twisted his hand any further).
" ill pick team2 DD being the weak link... and only possible way for BP to win is by affirmative action and his BS vibe suit. other then that they really shouldnt win. -_- "Excuse me?
thats like me using batman example and grundy to say he can do that to DS or another similar being.
" @castleking said:google it." ill pick team2 DD being the weak link... and only possible way for BP to win is by affirmative action and his BS vibe suit. other then that they really shouldnt win. -_- "Excuse me? "
" he wasnt a high end MA fighter with peak abilities that surpasses matty. -_-No, my arguement still applies because I was only using it to show that Matt could still hit nerve points through thicker padding than what Nightwing wears.
thats like me using batman example and grundy to say he can do that to DS or another similar being.
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And Dick's abilities do not surpass Matt by any stretch. Show me a feat of Nightwing's that isn't absolute PIS and I will match it or top it.
"google it. "I know what it means. How the hell is it relevant to Black Panther taking the win?
" No, my arguement still applies because I was only using it to show that Matt could still hit nerve points through thicker padding than what Nightwing wears. And Dick's abilities do not surpass Matt by any stretch. Show me a feat of Nightwing's that isn't absolute PIS and I will match it or top it. "why would u add stipulations on ur evidence?
NW possess mix form of MA that consist of 124 styles taught to him by batman.
these styles are complimented and supported by his peak human stats.
" @castleking: Where does it actually state that NW was taught all the styles by batman? "I was thinking the same thing. I wanted to think that it was safe to assume that, but whatever...
" @castleking: Where does it actually state that NW was taught all the styles by batman? "where did i state that? reread my post.
" where did i state that? reread my post. "Uhhhh....?
@castleking said:
NW possess mix form of MA that consist of 124 styles taught to him by batman.
@Static Shock
said:@castleking said:
"NW possess mix form of MA that consist of 124 styles taught to him by batman.
i didnt say he master them all... that was my point when i stated he had his own blend of MA consistent of the art forms taught to him by bats." @castleking: I mean where was that established in a comic? I don't assume anyone trained by Batman is a master of all martial arts forms. I've read that Night wing has mastered several but I've never seen any evidence that batman taught him over 100. "
NW chose to specialize in certain areas and did not master them all but he did masters over a dozen of them to make his own style. that doesnt mean he doesnt know of the others which he does. he just didnt master them or utilize them. no different then what batman has done.
" i didnt say he master them all... that was my point when i stated he had his own blend of MA consistent of the art forms taught to him by bats.The problem with this is that he's not asking you where it was stated that NIghtwing MASTERED all those styles, but where it's stated that Nightwing was TAUGHT all of those styles. There's a difference.
" @castleking said:Thanks Static" i didnt say he master them all... that was my point when i stated he had his own blend of MA consistent of the art forms taught to him by bats.The problem with this is that he's not asking you where it was stated that NIghtwing MASTERED all those styles, but where it's stated that Nightwing was TAUGHT all of those styles. There's a difference. "
various sources state batman taught him in various Art forms and both possess a similar fighting style. i understand that NW didnt master all art forms or knows complete knowledge of them. but batman did teach him the effective attacks of various art forms wether dick mastered them or not.
when batman decided to take cassie into his group. he showed her one CD's and stated the number of styles she would need to learn the number was high before she could work for him. i need to find my comic but i stand by the believe that batman trained Dick in his art style and did not hold nothing back but simply chose to streamline each style. when teaching dick and even robin he has verbally stated the name of the attack and the style.
batman instead of teaching one individual art form has chosen to teach his style which is a blend of 127 styles a more efficient streamline form of teaching.
" @castleking: But do you have any evidence of this? BTW you just made think of a scan I should find. "What scan?
" @vuviper said:The one where Nightwing is auditioning for Black Mask one guy is like see Crutches knows Kung fu and black mask replies that it looks more like a blend of capoiera and some other Ma's I don't remember." @castleking: But do you have any evidence of this? BTW you just made think of a scan I should find. "What scan? "
@castleking said:
" i dont have any of the various scans of batman teaching styles for dick and tim. i really never had a need for him b/c i hate batman. "
Well how do you know that he was taught a blend of 127 styles then? Did you read it somewhere? what issue?
" @castleking: I'm not sure what that was supposed to prove... "nothing just batman's teaching method u can go ahead and think he doesnt teach his side kicks all he can especially dick.. which consist of his 100+ fighting styles.
i cant see batman not having the time to train a pre teen who has bn with him for over a decade.


" @castleking: Because for most people, learning all those styles would take much more than a lifetime, its part of the reason Bruce is a marital arts genius. "most ppl arent comic characters. -_-
i think u are failing to understand my point here. batman had to travel locate masters and train under them and most of it consistend of proving he was worthy of being taught.
Dick lived with bats he didnt have to travel his master was in the cave. not only that but batman made sure that dick could defend himself. batman streamlined his MA knowledge for what is effective and discarded the rest.
Dick was also a small child who is more likely to learn far faster then a teen or an adult due to how his mind is not yet develop and is at the prime age for fast learning. dick himself was also very bright for his age. able to solve riddles and crimes that batman was unable he was also gifted.
dick also early training in gymnastic allowed for bats to focus on other areas that dick would need to be taught.
i stated that Dick was not a master of all 100 plus MA. but i did state his style was comprised of over a 100 style taught to him by batman and that dick did master various art forms to designed to compliment his own style of acrobatics.
now Batman does know over a 100 styles and his own style is a blend of all he has learned. so i dont see where i am wrong here. especially when u showed a scan of batman and all his art styles. not hard to believe it is easily accessible for his team to use and learn from which it is obvious that is what the CD is design and purpose is for.
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