Black Manta VS Black Panther

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Black Manta VS Black Panther

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Rules:

  • Current versions
  • Standard gear
  • No morals apply
  • Fight to the death or KO
  • Random encounter
  • No preparation
  • Fight takes place in a warehouse
  • 50 meters apart

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Black Panther claws his heart out.

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#3  Edited By seastone98

Manta fries him 2 death

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I sadly do not know enough about BP's armor. How does it handle extreme temperatures? I read that it can be cut if you go along the seams and Manta should be fast enough to attempt it. However, to my understanding BP also has an "anti-armor" weaponry that can cut through mostly anything?

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T'Challa.

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Panther.

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Black Manta

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@renny said:
@ithemanwithoutfeari said:

Black Manta

Reasons?

He can keep up with Aquaman. This alone makes him superior imo, but other than that.

He has some high mid tier- high tier feats like Tagging flash or hurting superman.

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I think T'challa can be fast enough to dodge Manta's mask beams. He should win

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Black Manta ftw.

He's an Aquaman Villain.

As such, he should be above T'Challa.

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#13  Edited By jashro44

I sadly do not know enough about BP's armor. How does it handle extreme temperatures?I read that it can be cut if you go along the seams and Manta should be fast enough to attempt it. However, to my understanding BP also has an "anti-armor" weaponry that can cut through mostly anything?

Vibranium absorbs energy which is why T'challa can take the damage he takes.

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#14 juiceboks  Moderator
@renny said:
@ithemanwithoutfeari said:

Black Manta

Reasons?

He can keep up with Aquaman. This alone makes him superior imo, but other than that.

He has some high mid tier- high tier feats like Tagging flash or hurting superman.

Scans?

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#15  Edited By Chimeroid

@jashro44 said:
@chimeroid said:

I sadly do not know enough about BP's armor. How does it handle extreme temperatures?I read that it can be cut if you go along the seams and Manta should be fast enough to attempt it. However, to my understanding BP also has an "anti-armor" weaponry that can cut through mostly anything?

Vibranium absorbs energy which is why T'challa can take the damage he takes.

Ye, matching him fairly seems to be impossible. He seems indestructible behind that suit of his.

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@juiceboks said:
@ithemanwithoutfeari said:
@renny said:
@ithemanwithoutfeari said:

Black Manta

Reasons?

He can keep up with Aquaman. This alone makes him superior imo, but other than that.

He has some high mid tier- high tier feats like Tagging flash or hurting superman.

Scans?

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I couldnt find the Superman one.

I will try to find it later, when I have more time.

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@ithemanwithoutfeari: @juiceboks: The only time I recall Manta hurting Superman was the New 52, in Superman/Wonder Woman #19, when they fought the Suicide Squad:

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Though Superman was weakened at this stage, and pretty noticeably at that since bullets managed to somewhat stagger him and Harley managed to tag him.

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@wollfmyth209: Truth Supes is no joke as a street leveler (rather underrated imo) but he's almost completely depowered, not even comparable to regular Supes. Far weaker than Aquaman in fact.

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I sadly do not know enough about BP's armor. How does it handle extreme temperatures? I read that it can be cut if you go along the seams and Manta should be fast enough to attempt it. However, to my understanding BP also has an "anti-armor" weaponry that can cut through mostly anything?

You're right about the suit. It's a vibranium microweave. The anti-armor weaponry were the anti-metal claws, which were made from Antarctic Vibranium. He currently doesn't have those.

He can keep up with Aquaman. This alone makes him superior imo, but other than that.

He has some high mid tier- high tier feats like Tagging flash or hurting superman.

How fast is Aquaman in battle? How agile is he? Being able to "keep up with Aquaman" doesn't say much.

Characters like Batman and Nightwing have also tagged Flashes (specifically Bart and Wally), and they aren't even metahuman. Wildcat (also not metahuman) has tagged Jay Garrick on more than one occasion. Neither of that means anything, though.

His ability to go toe-to-toe with Superman is based on the fact that Superman (New 52) was severely weakened at the time, just after the whole solar flare/kryptonite absorption debacle. Superman dominated him toward the end of the fight, though. Also, Black Manta was steamrolled by Deathstroke in one fight and barely held his own in another. So, hurting Superman doesn't sound very consistent to me.

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@wollfmyth209: So, Manta only hurt weak Superman with his eye beams? Cool. Not a problem for a guy with a vibranium suit, though. Thanks for that post.

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@static_shock said:
@chimeroid said:

I sadly do not know enough about BP's armor. How does it handle extreme temperatures? I read that it can be cut if you go along the seams and Manta should be fast enough to attempt it. However, to my understanding BP also has an "anti-armor" weaponry that can cut through mostly anything?

You're right about the suit. It's a vibranium microweave. The anti-armor weaponry were the anti-metal claws, which were made from Antarctic Vibranium. He currently doesn't have those.

@ithemanwithoutfeari said:

He can keep up with Aquaman. This alone makes him superior imo, but other than that.

He has some high mid tier- high tier feats like Tagging flash or hurting superman.

How fast is Aquaman in battle? How agile is he? Being able to "keep up with Aquaman" doesn't say much.

Characters like Batman and Nightwing have also tagged Flashes (specifically Bart and Wally), and they aren't even metahuman. Wildcat (also not metahuman) has tagged Jay Garrick on more than one occasion. Neither of that means anything, though.

His ability to go toe-to-toe with Superman is based on the fact that Superman (New 52) was severely weakened at the time, just after the whole solar flare/kryptonite absorption debacle. Superman dominated him toward the end of the fight, though. Also, Black Manta was steamrolled by Deathstroke in one fight and barely held his own in another. So, hurting Superman doesn't sound very consistent to me.

Damn ...

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@renny said:

Yea current Panther would absorb the beams and fire them right back at Manta.

100.

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@rockette said:

Black Manta ftw.

He's an Aquaman Villain.

As such, he should be above T'Challa.

VS Deathstroke: Round 1.

VS Deathstroke: Round 2(starting with a home-field/aquatic-terrain advantage).

I see Manta squaring off against Black Panther going a lot like the first one.

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@static_shock: Essentially, yeah. However, Manta can still pull a win here, I just don't believe using his feat of "hurting" Superman is the right route to go by.

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@static_shock: Essentially, yeah. However, Manta can still pull a win here, I just don't believe using his feat of "hurting" Superman is the right route to go by.

Understood.

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@foxerdes said:

I'm really confused about Manta power level.

It fluctuates to fit what the writer wants. Simple as that. He has caught hydrokinesis enhanced punches that his son threw (same son who can punch through solid rock with ease) and tanked Aquaman's attacks, while at the same time losing to Deathstroke.

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#32  Edited By Chimeroid

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@chimeroid: Such shame. One day I see him wrestling with Aquaman and the other he loses to Slade.

What about his original appearances?

Well, i kind of disagree that it is a shame, true that because of that it is really difficult to use him in forum battles, but it makes for an interesting character that can actually fit in any a story.

However, if i had to pick between which of those showings is PIS i would go with him losing to Slade simply because he didn't use his Signature weapon once in that fight. It would be like Thor not using Mjolnir.

Also, the way Deathstroke got him out of water is pure WIS and not how physics work. Basically Slade stabbing Kid Flash all over again.

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Current Panther wins

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Panther wins

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Black Panther.

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@foxerdes: Regarding feats or storyline qualities? Honestly, i much prefer him in New 52 as pre 52 he was just one of those Super Evil characters that are too evil in a way.

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#39  Edited By CheatCode

I like everything about manta except for the helmet. As for the fight, I’ll be back.

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Black panther

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Panther without much trouble.

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Panther without much trouble.

Black Manta Street level? Could Spidey beat him!?

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@sirfizzwhizz: When Manta isn't facing Arthur (who holds back tremendously) he's not even high street.

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Manta ftw