Black Goku (Dragon Ball Super) vs. Gilgamesh (Nasuverse)

Black easily stomps round 1 and 2.

Round 3 black gets stomped.

Black speedblitzed rounds 1-2. Then Merged Zamasu gets, solo'ed, blitzed, and one shotted by multiple Nasuverse god-tiers (including CCC Gilgamesh), who are far above the entire DB franchise. (CCC Gil Respect Thread here for anyone who wants to see it.) Lol at people saying that Merged Zamasu solos the Nasuverse. All the god-tiers one shot composite DB. Hell, the entire Nasuverse includes Arcueid from the Extra timelines, who makes CCC Gilgamesh look like an ant in comparison.

Edit: I remember this cancerous thread.

Can Black be considered Divine since a supreme kai took his body?

Void Shiki by her own admission is no match against Primate Murder, who isn't even a planet buster, much less so an universal reality warper. Void Shiki ain't doing anything to DBS.

The Mythology Mystic Code isn't the power Gilgamesh had while alive, we already saw him in that state during FGO, he wasn't anywhere near that powerful. He was much weaker than Tiamat, who guess what? Isn't even a planet buster.

The MMC is the root of a Heroic Spirit. Which is below Velber and Sefar, both which are at best planet busters, nothing against universe level power.

@garbs: Void Shiki by her own admission is no match against Primate Murder, who isn't even a planet buster, much less so an universal reality warper. Void Shiki ain't doing anything to DBS.

Yet Akasha/Void Shiki specifically states that she purposely took on an imperfect form in Fate/GO (aka becoming a Servant):

She's been stated to be both omnipotent and above the verse in her normal forms:

The Mythology Mystic Code isn't the power Gilgamesh had while alive, we already saw him in that state during FGO, he wasn't anywhere near that powerful. He was much weaker than Tiamat, who guess what? Isn't even a planet buster.

The MMC is the root of a Heroic Spirit. Which is below Velber and Sefar, both which are at best planet busters, nothing against universe level power.

I've already debunked this nonsense in the previous thread you lost in here: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/bb-fate-extra-ccc-vs-zeedmillenniummon-2024193/?page=3#js-message-21992919

Extra power levels work differently than the main timelines; even who is stronger than who has been changed in Extra.

@zgtfreak: @zgtfreak: lol one shot db time line. Are you also including db xenoverse or heroes. Cause xeno goku or the future warrior destroys ccc gil and all. Stop your wanking.

Rounds 1-2 are stomps for Black.

3 ends with Gilgamesh soloing the DB franchise without trying.

Black goku because Gilgamesh has no N word pass because he's alone enough to godstomp nasuverse.

@corruptionz: Black is universal fodder. How is he soloing the verse?

I'm literally destroying you in the comments of my very own RT right now; I don't know why you want to get smacked here at the same time too... This thread was made when no one outside of us very few CCC players knew the power of the god-tiers of the verse.

Round 3: Gilgamesh sends Moon Cell Hakuno to stomp on Merged Zamasu and carry out the Zero Mortals Plan by god-stomping the fodder verse. Then he sends her to go and smite the dumb, useless, immature, and inept "gods" of the verse for being incompetent. Hakuno then expands DBH's timelines to an infinite amount, just to collapse them all on themselves, destroying the verse. All while Gilgamesh sits back on his throne while sipping his wine because no one in DB is even worthy of being killed by him.

And Arcueid is laughing far above everyone in the Millennium Castle.

Oh, and Akasha is slamming her head against a wall over the stupidity of a weak green man claiming to be god inside a verse with an actual omnipotent (aka herself).

@zgtfreak: Isn't nasuverse just a bunch of city block level characters like saber or the necromancer?
If not, then i meant that. Anyway, there's no universal gilgamesh.

@corruptionz: Isn't nasuverse just a bunch of city block level characters like saber or the necromancer?

Most of them, yes. The god-tiers however are extremely powerful multiversal entities.

If not, then i meant that. Anyway, there's no universal gilgamesh.

lmao Gilgamesh in the Fate/Extra timelines is multiversal. Here's his RT. <

Universes in Nasuverse are infinite in size as well; so any universal entity in the Nasuverse is baseline infinite multiversal by default, since an infinite universe is the same size as a standard infinite multiverse. So any universal Nasuverse character is literally infinitely above all of DB; let alone the actual multiversal entities.

@zgtfreak: Lolripthen

@corruptionz: dude don't believe him. He posts made up facts. He is extremely biased towards db.

This guy even said that gilgamesh can defeat pre-retcon beyonder.

The respect thread has valid feats and facts and there is no one in DB that can get anywhere close to god tiers of Nasuverse.

@zgtfreak: lol smacking me in the comments. Come on dude you haven't even proved that moon cells create 7-8D universes.

And lol at hakuno stomping zamasu or even a character from dbh. Here is a feat from xenoverse

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XlhAsddgoi4

In this demigra does something similar to bb. He has complete control over time and space and could easily destroy the universe. Rember that the bird he ate can create time itself and controls the very aspect of time and alternate timelines yet he got his ass handed to him by the future warrior and goku. They fight their last battle in a timeless dimension (the dimension with floating crystals which are probably alternate timeline universes) And yeah remember this, every character is ridiculously stronger than their canon counter parts in this game. As for dbh there are characters who can pimp slap the likes of demigra out of existence.

So no hakuno ain't doing shit to any of these characters.

Moon Cell contains infinite amount of universes in its Core. This feat alone is better than anything in DB, you don't even need to go into higher dimensional stuff.

Black stomps round 1 and 2

Black gets wrecked the 3rd round

@lilgodperv: lol smacking me in the comments. Come on dude you haven't even proved that moon cells create 7-8D universes.

Except I did. All you did in response was spout nonsense and pretending like you know how dimensions work.

In this demigra does something similar to bb. He has complete control over time and space and could easily destroy the universe. Rember that the bird he ate can create time itself and controls the very aspect of time and alternate timelines yet he got his ass handed to him by the future warrior and goku. They fight their last battle in a timeless dimension (the dimension with floating crystals which are probably alternate timeline universes) And yeah remember this, every character is ridiculously stronger than their canon counter parts in this game.

I literally know everything about Xenoverse and was one of the best players on there of all time. I played it almost every day for over 2 years. I know everything there is about the story. (Xeno 2 is trash though). You don't need to explain it to me. Xenoverse characters are at finite multiverse level/multi-universal. Somewhere in the thousands of universes range perhaps. Demigra needed to go to another dimension just to survive the destruction of the multiverse. There are not infinite timelines either, as timelines are being created due to manual changes being made by time travelers; and the Time Patrol are trying to correct those timelines anyways. So the timelines aren't even rapidly multiplying since they are being corrected. If anything, the amount of timelines is decreasing due to corrections.

Now a single universe in the Nasuverse is infinite. A universe of infinite size>a multiverse with a finite amount of universes that are also finite in size (aka DBH's multiverse). So any universe level entity in the Nasuverse is infinitely above all of DB. And the Moon Cell simulates and stores infinite timelines/universes, and each universe as of recent has been confirmed to be infinite in size as well. That alone makes Moon Cell Hakuno and BB two infinities above all of DB. And this is IGNORING the 8-D statement.

Again, Hakuno solos the verse.

@lilgodperv: They are hardly infinite though. The Time Patrol can manage them and the corrections also reduced them. Controlling time is not a huge feat. Any powerful characters can do it. He just has the power in a bit higher scale. Yuuki probably has better time manipulation. Ren Fujii has better control of Time in an infinite multiverse. Yato has even better power over Time and Space being able to combine it with his probability manipulation to create a future where he reaches Hajun(Since, Hajun is such bs character ofcourse he fails).

@zgtfreak: yeah even i was a player of xenoverse. ok then you show me a proper statement where it is stated that dragon ball universes are finite in size and not infinite. And the total amount of timelines created.

@johnsmjs36: it is the literal task of the time patroler. He is someone who has to make sure that someone doesn't alter time resulting in the creation of alternate timelines. They are there to fix them. And bringing ren fuji is absolutely no right cause he is on a different level of power.

@lilgodperv: ok then you show me a proper statement where it is stated that dragon ball universes are finite in size and not infinite.

Show me that they are infinite. There is no reason to assume they are without evidence.

And the total amount of timelines created.

Not infinite, that's for sure. I've already explained as to why as well. If you actually played Xenoverse, you would know. And this isn't even counting the fact that you are pitting an extremely bottom of the barrel low-tier hax verse against a god king-tier hax verse. Not to mention MFTL+ DB is being pitted against omnipresent level entities, with other entities having the raw speed to match omnipresence. Horrible, horrible spite.

Gilgamesh is above anything the Gods of Destruction and Kaioshin have done so far in Dragon Ball, with his noble phantasm he casually threw galaxies around, Goku Black has never done anything close to that he would lose for sure.

@syncroniam: I think you mean CCC Gilgamesh.

He defeated a multiversal being that was manipulating time or she was immune to time manipulation.

His Enuma Elish capable of destroying multiple universes at ease.

@lilgodperv: Gilgamesh CCC is literally stated to be faster than the concept of time itself, he wasn't even scared when BB threatened to destroy the infinite universe and a dimension the was higher than the infinite universe, his strongest attack created multiple galaxies and he threw those galaxies like nothing and he literally one shot both BB and Kiara, both are stated to be multiversal when they took control of the Mooncell itself.

His speed alone is far better than any of what Goku in his Mastered Ultra Instinct can do.

And even non CCC Gilgamesh stated that the servant Altera has to turn into the White Titan, a being stated to be stronger than Gods and also can absorb anything from concept itself can only stand a chance against Gilgamesh, not to beat Gilgamesh but to stand a chance against him.

Gilgamesh literally can see the future and can cheat because he can see his enemies' weakness and their next moves and also his clairvoyant can tell what to do in order to win against his enemies'.

Gilgamesh in his CCC form solo anyone from the Dragon Ball universe.

He's capable of destroying the multiverse if he felt like it.

And a single universe is Infinite in size.

There's no evidence to suggest that the Dragon Ball universe are infinite.

@chasekilleen: lol so where is it stated that db verse is finite? Or where is it even stated that Gilgamesh is multiversal and please don't give me that gilgamesh's rt, it is full of bullsh*t.

@lilgodperv: bro why would you assume the universe is infinite without proof?

Statements for infinite DB verse?

@caocao: actually do it was a statement in daizenshuu 7 saying that they are actually an infinite number of galaxies in the Dragon Ball Z universe divided into four quadrants this was ignored at the time because people was under the misconception that there were only four galaxies now that super has cleared things up and many people are arguing that there may be infinite galaxies even Jocko in the manga clarify that there are countless galaxies within the Dragon Ball Z universe

@ecoblitz: cause the universe is ever expanding yada yada and it has never been stated that dB verse is finite either. So it is becomes moot to say say dBverse is finite or infinite.

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Galaxy

A gathering of local planets in the universe. Planets gather and form a nebula, and beyond that, a collection of gathered nebulae is called a galaxy. The four Kaiou who rule over the east, west, south, and north [sections] of the universe actually govern these galaxies. Because the Kami in the Heavenly Realm and the Kaiou supervise the galaxies that exist infinitely in all the universe, the sections known as the East, West, South, and North Galaxies are denominations that came into use through their duty."

@caocao: statement for finite db verse?

Doesn´t exist. Don´t know where this was coming from.

The galaxies are infinity, but they only have 4 in the next post? What is that supposed to mean?

Ah, didn´t see this post, my bad:

Well, countless is a bit vague. I remember the 4 galaxy part, but first i thought that wasn´t even canon since it was relevant in the first Broly movie (?)

@caocao: as crazy as it sounds there is an infinite number galaxies supposedly divided into four sectors these sectors are also called galaxies to add to the confusion.

So supposedly the north Galaxy contains one-fourth of an infinite or unmeasurable number of galaxies

Lol.

Ah, ok. Then "the galaxy of the north contains countless galaxies" would be the corret answer. But still, between infinite and countless is a difference. Countless can be mean infinite, but it also can mean nearly infinite or not even close that level. Does we have other examples? The only infinite statement that i remember was the void in the tournament.

@caocao: exactly it has never been stated but neither is it ever stated that dragon ball universe has an end.

@varricpatermann: you didn't see my post?

@lilgodperv: doesn’t mean you’ll assume the highest possible value

@caocao: well thats about there isn't really more info on the DB cosmology. there is just one statement suggesting infinte galaxies an another saying there are countless.

@bossmountain: 1/4 of infinite is still infinite...

@ecoblitz:

i'm aware of this..

If we don´t know how big the size is, then we can only going with the minimum. We can´t give fiction feats/statements, that they haven´t shown.

Hmm ok, that is a though one. If we have one statement with infinite galaxies, then they are infinite since infinite > countless. But if we talking about one and the same statement with wo different translations, then we have to use the origin translation. Don´t know what is this then.

@lilgodperv: So in other words you don't have proof either way.

You're so pathetic.

Gilgamesh in Fate Extra CCC can defeat everyone in the Dragon Ball universe.

None of the people in Dragon Ball are resistant to the destruction of their universe.

@bossmountain: A scan here states that the universe is divided into four sections, and that Earth exist on the outskirts of the North Quadrant, which means that those four quadrants that make up the universe is finite. Otherwise, there would be no outskirts. And none of this is even relevant to a god-tier Nasuverse character.

An infinitely expanding universe is not the same as one that's already infinite. An infinitely expanding universe is just a finite sized universe that grows larger forever, but always stays finite.

and please don't give me that gilgamesh's rt, it is full of bullsh*t.

Nice counterargument (none). And you already conceded to me that he is multiversal.

@caocao: well. there was another statement that says the Dragon Ball Z universe is endless.

So that's one statement implying it's infinite another statement implying that is endless and another statement that says it's immeasurable