" What is Surfer's battle speed usually? "The majority of the time he does not operate at high speeds.
Black Adam vs. Silver Surfer
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" Is that so? If the Silver Surfer were to operate at full power and if he was blood lusted, then he should be able to do something. "I'm not implying he will lose, but I am merely pointing out that he rarely ever speed blitzes, or uses the full extent of his reflexes in combat. If he was giving his all, without his regular moral restraints, I'd favour him, but the OP does not state that this is a bloodlusted fight.
" @Morpheus_: Doesn't battle forums state that if morals or bloodlsuted aren't stated, don't we assume that the characters are fighting at the best of their ability but within the limits of their personality???That still isn't bloodlusted though...
I don't think this is the same with being in character. =] "
" Oh. Irrelevant question, but do you think Black Adam can take on The Mad Titan? "Yes.
@spidey 15 said:
" @Morpheus_: Doesn't battle forums state that if morals or bloodlsuted aren't stated, don't we assume that the characters are fighting at the best of their ability but within the limits of their personality???
I don't think this is the same with being in character. =] "
I do not view this as a question for me to answer. You said everything yourself.
@Morpheus_:
LOL
My point is that if SS use the best of his ability he might try to speed blitz or to use full extent of his reflexes.
=]
So I must admit I love ss and don't know much about BA except for the fact he super powerful so I did some research so I would not make a biased fanboi decision and this is what ive come up with....There is no way in hell ss is going to beat BA this dude skill set is badASS!! Yes ss has the power cosmic but that won't be enough to take someone like BA, BA also has the wisdom to discern the power cosmic just how ss has cosmic awareness so I believe he would be able to use that to is advantage, he's faster and more durable and took on the, JLA,Justice SOCIETY and the TT which SS cannot do alone so im going with BA even tho I wish SS can give him a beat down but with out help ss wouldn't win, he would put up a very good fight but he won't win. AND THIS IS COMING FROM A MARVEL FANBOI SO I WOULD LOVE IT IS SOMONE CAN PROVE ME WRONG : (
" Well can somone make a good case for ss cuz I really dont want him to loose this battle lmao hahha "I'm too bored to make a case for the Surfer, otherwise I wouldn't mind.
Besides, the truth is the truth regardless of what the majority supports. Sometimes they coincide, sometimes not. And on this particular thread, there is no absolute truth, in my opinion.
Silver Surfer with energy discharge can create a massivly powerfull black hole. That outclasses BA by far. And this was before the Anihilation Wave power up. (Also note that both Thanos and Fallen one can easily survive being sucked in the black hole).
He can easily BFR BA into a far future or far past.
And when BA does something like this with sheer energy output than we will even start to talk about possibility of SS vs BA
Nevertheless even weakened Surfer can channel the energies of Big Crunch, (that's how he has defeated the Tenebrous and Aegis), not to mention the full power one.
Face it guys SS outclasses BA completly. He is another tier up than Superman, Black Adam, Cap. Marvel...
" Black Adam. His physical strength is near (if not on par with) Superman. The Surfer can certainly be harmed by physical force, and has also been killed in the past by such. His transmutation abilities channelled via the Power Cosmic, could be useful, but I believe Black Adam's mystical origin is likely to protect him from that. The actual cosmic blasts themselves are trickier, but I think BA can withstand them long enough to bring the battle up close - his vicious nature grants him an edge against the Surfer's casual disposition to restrain himself, no matter the opponent (even post-Annihilation, SS has demonstrated remorse, and does hold back, more often than not). In the end, BA's physical strength will, more than likely, prove to be too much for the Surfer to handle. "I like what you wrote but have to say that Adam is indeed better shape than say a Superman to fight Surfer. But in the end he would
fall to the POWER COSMIC as well. Adam's only projectile is his magical lighting and we all know that's not touching the surfer.
His best bet is to amp his fist with magic and go all or nothing, And if this happens, what will he do when the surfer amps as well ?
Again this is all opinionated.
" @Racer_X said:thanos wouldnt be able to outmuscle black adam thanos cant even match superman in physical power "Say it with me... Thanos is a Mutant Eternal, look it up. Just being an Eternal puts him on par with Superman, and he's a mutant with power that puts him head and shoulders above any other Eternal... and to put this within context: Hyperion is an Eternal (from an alternate Earth). The closest example to Thanos for comparison in DC is Darkseid. And yes, Darkseid would crush Black Adam. I just don't see Black Adam winning over Silver Surfer when in the Galactus/Darkseid crossover (written by John Byrne), Orion was curbstomped by the Surfer. "
" @BattleMage: Yes. Black Adam wins. You can facepalm all you want. But if you go back through this thread, you'll see that Black Adam already won pages ago. Get over it. "ok just got back from going through the pages and if you do the same
you would see that Surfer is up 70% to Adam's 30% so you get over it noob!
Black adam - not based on powers or anything else cause i have never read any comics from either character but Black Adam seems to be more interesting
Plus Silver surfer was never cool
" @MrDirector786 said:Your calling me a noob when you're the one whose joined this site before me and you need to resort to calling people names...... Black Adam stomps. Get over it." @BattleMage: Yes. Black Adam wins. You can facepalm all you want. But if you go back through this thread, you'll see that Black Adam already won pages ago. Get over it. "ok just got back from going through the pages and if you do the same you would see that Surfer is up 70% to Adam's 30% so you get over it noob! "
But i dont get it its not like Adam has any ranged attacks. Cant Surfer Soul punch him on the astral plane? Or move back in time to before he got he's powers -assuming its like Captain Marvel and he wasnt born with them- Sorry not really too familiar with Teth here but all he has is he's speed (surfer is still faster), strength(inner and outside)-which surfer can increase to any level he wants-, durability, wisdom and a few other powers that wont really help him. just saying...feel free to correct me.
" @BattleMage: Really. The fact that you first just started picking on me for saying the winner and your need to use crap like that and calling me a noob really proves that the only troll here is you. I would pull out pics and stuff to call you a troll, but I'd rather not stoop to your level. And by the way, the main person supporting Surfer in this thread is Truepwnge and his other 10 accounts. He's one of the biggest trolls and he hates Black Adam and loves posting out of context things and other crap. "Alright young lady i've had about enough of you. Moving on
" @MrDirector786 said:The fact that you need to call me names is pretty sad." @BattleMage: Really. The fact that you first just started picking on me for saying the winner and your need to use crap like that and calling me a noob really proves that the only troll here is you. I would pull out pics and stuff to call you a troll, but I'd rather not stoop to your level. And by the way, the main person supporting Surfer in this thread is Truepwnge and his other 10 accounts. He's one of the biggest trolls and he hates Black Adam and loves posting out of context things and other crap. "Alright young lady i've had about enough of you. Moving on "
SS wins lol u guys say BA durability is better then SS really what ca BA do if SS can do this i dont see BA doing any of this or have them shown him capable of such power or ability TO BE COMPARED TO SS u guys get when they say SS can utilize the Power Cosmic to augment his superhuman strength to indeterminate levels so if the only thing BA got going for him is streng plz.
the only thing BA got going for him is streng an thats nothing if the sun an a black hole cant hurt SS an still i say what can BA do ?
I have noticed same fans not even give Supes the ability to win against the Surfer and thats ridiculous because Supes could absorb more power if he needed to so by default right there Supes could reach a level to 1 shot Surfer but the never ending Surfer fan club cries bloody murder at the thought of this so i lose interest.
Surfer should beat Supes fairly if both characters are fighting fairly. I can see Supes at smarting Surfer like Thanos did so easily in rebirth and I can see Supes out powering or out battling Surfer. But I can see Surfer playing his cards smart and finding a out a weakness quick and finding some way to shut Superman down without having to battle him.
To me comes down to this if Surfer battles it out with BA or Supes he loses. If Surfer fights wisely and uses his powers then Surfer.
At 1 moment it seems as if Surfer could easily attack someone in the Astral but then later if fought another being in the Astral and it seemed it all depend on whether or not the persons mind is stronger enough to protect himself.
I dont see this a advantage here for Surfer because the creature Surfer destroyed in the Astral was pure rage and mindless. Then later he came to a stalemate because both astral minds were spirts were strong. BA wont let Surfer shut him down in the Astral his magic will problly protect him if not his own mind might escape to the Astral as well once he found out Surfer could do it he would attempt as well.
show me when BA is able to do this an note the SS blast can do the same thing to a planet superman an BA are nothing to SS.
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