death match black rampaging through dc heroes only for a rip to tear through space where genis appears using his cosmic awareness he sees the problem and flies to confront black adam. genis is still semi insane from leaving asgard and having his dealing with thor......
"Black Adam wins.Genis's powers are too unpredictable and Black Adam's powers are magic based so I don't see how Genis could leech them."
he can still play with his mind using his cosmic awareness... like how he used it with thor to show him the past and a possible future of his actions against the brother giants
"Black Adam wins.Genis's powers are too unpredictable and Black Adam's powers are magic based so I don't see how Genis could leech them."
he can make him still play with his mind using his cosmic awareness... like how he used it with thor to show him the past and a possible future of his actions against the brother giants"
If that worked..Black Adam would have lost to Martian Manhunter.
"Black Adam wins.Genis's powers are too unpredictable and Black Adam's powers are magic based so I don't see how Genis could leech them."
he can make him still play with his mind using his cosmic awareness... like how he used it with thor to show him the past and a possible future of his actions against the brother giants"
If that worked..Black Adam would have lost to Martian Manhunter."
didnt realize MM had cosmic level telepathy/cosmic awareness
"Black Adam wins.Genis's powers are too unpredictable and Black Adam's powers are magic based so I don't see how Genis could leech them."
he can make him still play with his mind using his cosmic awareness... like how he used it with thor to show him the past and a possible future of his actions against the brother giants"
If that worked..Black Adam would have lost to Martian Manhunter."
"Black Adam wins.Genis's powers are too unpredictable and Black Adam's powers are magic based so I don't see how Genis could leech them."
he can make him still play with his mind using his cosmic awareness... like how he used it with thor to show him the past and a possible future of his actions against the brother giants"
If that worked..Black Adam would have lost to Martian Manhunter."
didnt realize MM had cosmic level telepathy"
He doesn't..but neither does Genis."
tell that to the writers that showed him messing with thors mind
"Black Adam wins.Genis's powers are too unpredictable and Black Adam's powers are magic based so I don't see how Genis could leech them."
he can make him still play with his mind using his cosmic awareness... like how he used it with thor to show him the past and a possible future of his actions against the brother giants"
If that worked..Black Adam would have lost to Martian Manhunter."
didnt realize MM had cosmic level telepathy"
He doesn't..but neither does Genis."
tell that to the writers that showed him messing with thors mind"
That wasn't telepathy..and Thor has no resistance to illusions.
"Black Adam wins.Genis's powers are too unpredictable and Black Adam's powers are magic based so I don't see how Genis could leech them."
he can make him still play with his mind using his cosmic awareness... like how he used it with thor to show him the past and a possible future of his actions against the brother giants"
If that worked..Black Adam would have lost to Martian Manhunter."
"Black Adam wins.Genis's powers are too unpredictable and Black Adam's powers are magic based so I don't see how Genis could leech them."
he can make him still play with his mind using his cosmic awareness... like how he used it with thor to show him the past and a possible future of his actions against the brother giants"
If that worked..Black Adam would have lost to Martian Manhunter."
didnt realize MM had cosmic level telepathy"
He doesn't..but neither does Genis."
I dont know what they are talking about, but ill act like I do :/
"Black Adam wins.Genis's powers are too unpredictable and Black Adam's powers are magic based so I don't see how Genis could leech them."
he can make him still play with his mind using his cosmic awareness... like how he used it with thor to show him the past and a possible future of his actions against the brother giants"
If that worked..Black Adam would have lost to Martian Manhunter."
"i want an apology.... otherwise DD no longer has to rely on nerve atks to take down bricks when he can just use his mind
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I'm not apologizing to you because your still wrong.He doesn't have telepathy.The only thing he has done telepathically is talk to Rick Jones...same as Daredevil does with Stick,Stone,and Elektra.I love it when your wrong so I can rub your nose in it.He can't even control his cosmic awareness very well...why do you think he's dead now?
"well then talk to the writers for writing it as a description of his powers
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This doesn't prove he has telepathy..and you cannot prove that because he doesn't.Silver Surfer,Emma Frost,Moondragon and Adam Warlock have telepathy...Genis doesn't.He has telepathic related abilities that he couldn't fully control but he doesn't have telepathy.
I got the Marvel encyclopedia by Daniel Wallace and there is no TK or telepathic abilities listed under his power set although im not sure how accurate this is
he has cosmic omiversal awareness its different then the average telepathy he uses it to drive ppl insane by overloading them with omniscience or showing past present future make you feel you are somewhere else
"I got the Marvel encyclopedia by Daniel Wallace and there is no TK or telepathic abilities listed under his power set although im not sure how accurate this is"
There is no telepathic abilities listed for any sources...Marvel Encyclopedia,Marvel Handbook,Damage Report,Marvel.com,Comicvine,Marvel Database,Wikipedia.How many sources have to have no telepathic abilities listed for him before people get it?
This is the whole story of what Castle King posted earlier in that scan.
Purple Man mentally took control of the Thunderbolts and some of the Avengers. But Genis is easily able to break the mind control.
Genis Actually mind rapes the hell out of him, placing a powerful illusion in his head.
He mind raped him and nearly fried Purple man's mind. And thats TP powerful TP at that.
Genis does have TP. And the Marvel handbook is not acurate on everything, somethings have changed since it was written, some things are just incorrect. But Genis has been shown to have powerful Telepathy.
He doesn't have telepathy.SeSaw...Marvel publishes the Handbook,I don't get why people always try to say it's wrong when it is them who doesn't know wtf they are talking about.Even if the Handbook is wrong...I named several other sources that mention nothing about telepathy.Most of what your seeing above is reality manipulation..not telepathy.
"he has cosmic omiversal awareness its different then the average telepathy he uses it to drive ppl insane by overloading them with omniscience or showing past present future make you feel you are somewhere else
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It's different from average telepathy..because it's not telepathy.
and one question, if Martian Manhunter can (and has shown) that he can use his telepathy to have conversations with people in another universe...what level would that be?
and one question, if Martian Manhunter can (and has shown) that he can use his telepathy to have conversations with people in another universe...what level would that be?"
That's cosmic level telepathy.Moondragon,Silver Surfer,and Adam Warlock have cosmic level telepathy..actual telepathy not this Genis Vell bullsh#t...and they have been seen talking to people on other planets,other dimensions,and so on and so forth.
and one question, if Martian Manhunter can (and has shown) that he can use his telepathy to have conversations with people in another universe...what level would that be?"
That's cosmic level telepathy.Moondragon,Silver Surfer,and Adam Warlock have cosmic level telepathy..actual telepathy not this Genis Vell bullsh#t...and they have been seen talking to people on other planets,other dimensions,and so on and so forth."
What ever kind of TP he has he has it. Yes his Cosmic Awareness grants him TP, just like the Surfers does.
Nighthunter said:
"Genis Vell
and one question, if Martian Manhunter can (and has shown) that he can use his telepathy to have conversations with people in another universe...what level would that be?"
That would be called the CRISIS as in Final Crisis or infinite Crisis or COIE in which all the universes where joined or pushed close together. I don't think hes that powerful under normal circustances , could be wrong though.
Vance Astro said:
"He doesn't have telepathy.SeSaw...Marvel publishes the Handbook,I don't get why people always try to say it's wrong when it is them who doesn't know wtf they are talking about.Even if the Handbook is wrong...I named several other sources that mention nothing about telepathy.Most of what your seeing above is reality manipulation..not telepathy."
Marvel corrects its own handbook often, beacuse the writers change things. And honestly there are so many characters and so much info in marvel its hard to get all the correct info into one handbook especially when the info is always subject to change.
Genis does have TP though his CA grants him that, its not reality warping because the only person in the room that was affected was PM, and he had not even left the room, but he thought he was in outer space.
and one question, if Martian Manhunter can (and has shown) that he can use his telepathy to have conversations with people in another universe...what level would that be?"
That's cosmic level telepathy.Moondragon,Silver Surfer,and Adam Warlock have cosmic level telepathy..actual telepathy not this Genis Vell bullsh#t...and they have been seen talking to people on other planets,other dimensions,and so on and so forth."
Ok thanks for the info
SeSAW said:
Nighthunter said:
"Genis Vell
and one question, if Martian Manhunter can (and has shown) that he can use his telepathy to have conversations with people in another universe...what level would that be?"
That would be called the CRISIS as in Final Crisis or infinite Crisis or COIE in which all the universes where joined or pushed close together. I don't think hes that powerful under normal circustances , could be wrong though.
It wasn't a crisis, it was during Morrison's (Or was it Kelley's?) JLA run, he used his telepathy to keep contact with Oracle while they were in the other universe, he didn't seem to have that many of a problem.
and one question, if Martian Manhunter can (and has shown) that he can use his telepathy to have conversations with people in another universe...what level would that be?"
That's cosmic level telepathy.Moondragon,Silver Surfer,and Adam Warlock have cosmic level telepathy..actual telepathy not this Genis Vell bullsh#t...and they have been seen talking to people on other planets,other dimensions,and so on and so forth."
Ok thanks for the info
SeSAW said:
Nighthunter said:
"Genis Vell
and one question, if Martian Manhunter can (and has shown) that he can use his telepathy to have conversations with people in another universe...what level would that be?"
That would be called the CRISIS as in Final Crisis or infinite Crisis or COIE in which all the universes where joined or pushed close together. I don't think hes that powerful under normal circustances , could be wrong though.
It wasn't a crisis, it was during Morrison's (Or was it Kelley's?) JLA run, he used his telepathy to keep contact with Oracle while they were in the other universe, he didn't seem to have that many of a problem. "
like I said I could be wrong, I rember him doing it during IC
and one question, if Martian Manhunter can (and has shown) that he can use his telepathy to have conversations with people in another universe...what level would that be?"
That's cosmic level telepathy.Moondragon,Silver Surfer,and Adam Warlock have cosmic level telepathy..actual telepathy not this Genis Vell bullsh#t...and they have been seen talking to people on other planets,other dimensions,and so on and so forth."
What ever kind of TP he has he has it. Yes his Cosmic Awareness grants him TP, just like the Surfers does.
Nighthunter said:
"Genis Vell
and one question, if Martian Manhunter can (and has shown) that he can use his telepathy to have conversations with people in another universe...what level would that be?"
That would be called the CRISIS as in Final Crisis or infinite Crisis or COIE in which all the universes where joined or pushed close together. I don't think hes that powerful under normal circustances , could be wrong though.
Vance Astro said:
"He doesn't have telepathy.SeSaw...Marvel publishes the Handbook,I don't get why people always try to say it's wrong when it is them who doesn't know wtf they are talking about.Even if the Handbook is wrong...I named several other sources that mention nothing about telepathy.Most of what your seeing above is reality manipulation..not telepathy."
Marvel corrects its own handbook often, beacuse the writers change things. And honestly there are so many characters and so much info in marvel its hard to get all the correct info into one handbook especially when the info is always subject to change.
Genis does have TP though his CA grants him that, its not reality warping because the only person in the room that was affected was PM, and he had not even left the room, but he thought he was in outer space."
That isn't true..stop making up sh#t.I have every handbook dating back to 1985 and I haven't found one thing inaccurate.The only reason the numbers change is because of upgrades through the years.Writers changing things have doesn't make the handbook wrong.If the Handbook from '02 says Genis doesn't have telepathy and then in '04 he gets telepathy..the '02 handbook is still right because he didn't have telepathy at the time(That is just an example,I'm not saying he has TP).Characters don't change enough for their to be to many inaccuracies.Spider-Man,Wonder Man,Ms.Marvel,alot of characters have had minor changes but not significant changes since their first appearances.
Even if you don't believe the handbooks which makes no sense..their is no source at all that says Genis has telepathy.Not one.
Cosmic Awareness is not telepathy.It grants him abilities involving the mind but has not telepathy attached.Daredevil can talk to people telepathically..but he's not considered a telepath.Genis can affect reality without everyone feeling the effects.As shown with the Freedom Ring..reality manipulation could be going on in the eyes of one person and everyone else could be totally oblivious to it.
and one question, if Martian Manhunter can (and has shown) that he can use his telepathy to have conversations with people in another universe...what level would that be?"
That's cosmic level telepathy.Moondragon,Silver Surfer,and Adam Warlock have cosmic level telepathy..actual telepathy not this Genis Vell bullsh#t...and they have been seen talking to people on other planets,other dimensions,and so on and so forth."
What ever kind of TP he has he has it. Yes his Cosmic Awareness grants him TP, just like the Surfers does.
Cosmic Awareness doesn't grant telepathy...Silver Surfer just has telepathy.
I'm telling you he doesn't.He has telepathic related abilities..all inconsistent and uncontrollable.The only think he has done consistently is telepathically link with Rick Jones..something that people who aren't telepaths have been able to do.
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