Black Adam and Shazam vs Thor and Hulk

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Conditions:

• No prep
• No outside help
• Standard gear
• Pre- New 52 Black Adam and Shazam
• Battle takes place in an abandoned city
• In character
• Win by Death or KO
• No BFR

I'll say T1 barely.

Mismatch Team 1. Imo hulk is a shit boy and would lose to any superman tier flying brick and black Adam is raw

This battle can go either way.

Only problem for T1, Thor has the ability to use God Blast to take them out. Other than that, BA and Shazam's lighting bolts won't do anything to Thor. In T2 problem, Hulk can't fly and he would be vulnerable to BA and Shazam's attacks. If it was a death match, I would side with T2.

Team 1 got this

Doesn't God Blast take time to prepare to use?

once the fight becomes airborne Hulks value drops. while I think Thor could match either of them I don't see him taking both of them at the same time. After they deal with Thor they make quick work of Hulk due to his lack of speed flight and range.

Team SHAZAM 9/10

Hulk and Thor wins, more durable, stronger, speed is actually not much difference so there is absolutely not way to say Shazam or Black Adam blitz, they are not doing so. We got

• Strength: Thor and Hulk.
• Durability: Thor and Hulk.
• Speed: Very close.
• DC: Thor and Hulk.
• Fighting skills: Thor and Hulk.
• Team Up: Thor and Hulk.

Teth blitzes them

Team marvel unless Billy and Teth are unusually good about using their speed.

Thor and hulk handily.

I love when people crap on Hulk in these battles. Even though the opposing team do not have feats that come close to him. Hulk hate is blinding for some. Also it's in character. There are next to no characters with flight who use it the way people try to use it in versus topics. They either keep the fight grounded or come within melee range of Hulk. Not like he can't close the gap either.

Also it's not just him. This seems to be the case with alot of Marvel powerhouses.

Team 1.

what are shazam ad adams best strength and striking feats that doesn't involve fighting other people.

@007619: this

Can thors magical lightning revert black Adam and shazaam back to their normal selves? If it can they get stomped

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He is able to break a light construct which in case many cannot do unless they require the strength or if the ring wielder is losing focus. He easily chucks Superman ya you said no fighting but thats where most of his strength is displayed.

Shazam in a arm match with Superman. Supes acknowledges their equal strength.

Pre 52 Black Adam is MVP. The teams are in character and Black Adam is ruthless. Thor could hang with Black Adam for awhile but with in character Thor loses. Shazam vs hulk is 50/50 but black Adam will eventually come in

Team 1 stomps. Too strong, WAY too fast. Hulk is useless here since he can't touch Billy or Adam.

@hiyouugly: What version of these characters are you reading that are untouchable? Hulk touches people who are even faster than they are. So many debaters here think having super speed means you are untouchable. You know what makes you untouchable? Not being touched in your fights. Or proving with consistent showings that you are nigh untouchable. You know who doesn't fit that description? BA and BB.

Then you bring up too strong. Please tell me you are joking. I don't even wanna delve into that one. It has to be a joke.

What an asinine argument lol. Billy and Adam are actually faster-than-light in combat, which is a level of speed that utterly shits on Hulk and Thor. They literally WOULD be untouchable because Thor and Hulk wouldn't be able to move their bodies quick enough to lay a finger on them. Ya know, being Superman's physical equals and all.

And yes, they are stronger. Or did it slip your mind that Billy used to casually push stars around? Lol

Team 1. And I'm close to saying in a stomp. If Adam or bully use a fraction of that heightened intelligence their powers grant them, all they have to do is divide and conquer. Hulk is landlocked. They can rip Thor to shreds in the air and then dig in on Hulk.

@handofprometheus said:

Shazam in a arm match with Superman. Supes acknowledges their equal strength.

Shazam lost...

Besides when Thor arm wrestled Hercules they had to stop so they didn't change the axis of the Earth's orbit.

@green_skaar said:

@handofprometheus said:

Shazam in a arm match with Superman. Supes acknowledges their equal strength.

Shazam lost...

Besides when Thor arm wrestled Hercules they had to stop so they didn't change the axis of the Earth's orbit.

Cap lost because he lost concentration, they're always portrayed as equals.

Superman can pull a chain of planets, Billy can push stars.

@hiyouugly: Billy lost because Mary and Freddy powered up and depowered him

The others are pre crisis feats

I'm leaning towards the DC duo, because i'm pretty sure they can deal with Hulk and while i think Thor could take them on one at a time i don't think he can take them both at once.

Marvel.

Big green and goldie locks for the win

@hiyouugly: Dude you are using PC feats and underselling Hulk. Neither one is outclassing him in strength based on feats(especially if he goes WB) and they will get touched. I repeat Hulk has tagged faster people and this isn't an on paper fight. Again unless these guys have a consistent record of being nigh untouchable(they don't), Hulk will tag them.

If we are going by best feats then Pre-Flashpoint Black Adam could solo tbh

@nomar:

I sure am using SA feats, because this is pre-52 lmao

And nah. The Hulk isn't even remotely close to light speed, Adam and Billy can fight FTL. Hulk will NEVER touch them. Ever. Get over it. The speed gap is utterly enormous. Lol

Show me Billy and Adam fighting at light speed.

Like I said, I don't think current Thor can stand against Supes, let alone Black Adam.

And although Shazam lack's experience, I feel he can at least hang in with Hulk until BA come's for the help.

Hulk is definitely no slouch in this fight, but I think given the versatility of his opponents whoever faces off has good possibility of putting him down. Then they tag team thor, team one in a good fight

Team 2.

Team Marvel.

@champion99:

Let's use some good'olé deductive reasoning here.

1. The Flash fights FTL

2. Superman can regularly keep up with the Flash and Flash-like characters in combat

3. Billy and Adam are physical equals to Superman and regularly keep up with him

Boom. Billy and Adam fight FTL.

Team 2. Even if team 1 go airborne, hulk can thunder clap them

Lol again I back u up

Team 1 blitzes.

@hiyouugly: I didn't think anybody could be this daft. You have proven me wrong. Everything you just said can be attributed to Hulk. Jesus you suck at this. This is in character, not an on paper fight. These guys get tagged a lot and do not fight like beams of light. Hulk has tagged people just as fast and faster than they are without issue.

@nomar:

Except they do, because they are equal to Superman, who regularly keeps up with the Flash. Lol anyone with half a brain knows the Hulk isn't remotely close to being light speed. He's not a speedster by any means, nor is Thor. Billy and Adam are, which is why they only get "regularly tagged" by other speedsters. Please take your autism elsewhere.

@nomar:

I'll make this even more simple for you. Show me scans of Hulk ever moving at light speed or higher. I can show you dozens of Billy or Adam doing so.

LMAO I knew you were going to do something like this. So let me use your logic here.

1. SS and Gladiator fight at FTL speeds

2. Thor and Hulk keep up with them in combat.

Boom. Thor and Hulk fight FTL

Do you see how foolish your logic is? Now come back with actual feats.

@champion99: I've actually given up. He cannot see the holes and flaws in his logic.

@champion99:

Norrin and Gladiator do not FIGHT faster than light lol. Same with Thor. Thats pure travel speed which we all know is different. Iron Man (someone not remotely close to light speed) regularly matches Thor and Hulk's speed.

The FLASH actually fights FTL. Massively faster than light. And Supes, Billy and Adam can keep up with him. Not to mention they actually HAVE feats where they are clearly moving faster than light, unlike the Hulk. He will never, ever touch them. Lol

@nomar:

Nah pal, you're just cherry picking shit and ignoring that your pal Hulky isn't remotely close to light speed. Or even sub-relativistic speeds. You know he isnt, you're just being stubborn because you don't want him to get blitzed and lose a fictional fight, even though that's exactly how it'd happen. Lmao

Team Marvel takes this.

And PUH-lease don't feed that obvious, obvious troll.