Black Adam and Shazam Family (DCEU) vs King Kong (Monsterverse)

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Poll Black Adam and Shazam Family (DCEU) vs King Kong (Monsterverse) (31 votes)

Champions 52%
King Kong 48%
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  1. Shazam has the wizard staff and Ladon
  2. The Champions have bloodlust
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  4. Fight to the death in New York
  5. Begin 500ft apart
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Kong gets repeatedly fried by lightning and can't do anything about it.

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@superdarth said:

Kong gets repeatedly fried by lightning and can't do anything about it.

He tanked a split second atomic breath which is above anything anyone in Shazam family. They aren't hurting him.

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If his punches could daze/slightly hurt Godzilla then imagine what it would do to BA and the Shazam family....

I guess this fight depends on weather BA is willing to BFR or not cause otherwise stalemate.

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BA.

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#6  Edited By SuperDarth
@jurance said:

@superdarth said:

Kong gets repeatedly fried by lightning and can't do anything about it.

He tanked a split second atomic breath which is above anything anyone in Shazam family. They aren't hurting him.

This was the same atomic breath that was blocked by a piece of rubble, nothing impressive. If the Shazam family spams lightning he will go down while being unable to hit them because he's never tagging them in a million years.

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Bump

Curious if any opinon changes after the latest movie.

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Kong did withstand electric currents from the Kraken in the Skull Island show

And the Kongs in hollow earth seemed more so frightened or annoyed by the electric creatures in GXK, but they didn’t really injure them in any form

Alongside that, the smaller bat titans that followed Camazots also had electrical powers, and they more so annoyed Kong than it did hurt him

However, those attacks don’t seem to be on par with the lightning abilities of the Shazam family or Black Adam so it’s hard to say if they’re strong enough to truly hurt him.

Imma say Kong, mostly cause he seems too tough for any of the Shazam Family to actually hurt him. And if any of them get hit by Kong, it’s curtains

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Adam blitz through his eye ball kong is literally a statue

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Black Adam solos and it's not close. Atom Smasher no-sold that massive lightning explosion and Adam still oneshot him with a punch.

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Kong blitzes! Bro dodged lightspeed radiation beam!

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Adam blitz through his eye ball kong is literally a statue

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Kong did withstand electric currents from the Kraken in the Skull Island show

And the Kongs in hollow earth seemed more so frightened or annoyed by the electric creatures in GXK, but they didn’t really injure them in any form

Alongside that, the smaller bat titans that followed Camazots also had electrical powers, and they more so annoyed Kong than it did hurt him

However, those attacks don’t seem to be on par with the lightning abilities of the Shazam family or Black Adam so it’s hard to say if they’re strong enough to truly hurt him.

Imma say Kong, mostly cause he seems too tough for any of the Shazam Family to actually hurt him. And if any of them get hit by Kong, it’s curtains

They also need about 10^15J of electricity to get Kong's heart beating again. Kong seems rather vulnerable to piercing attacks though unlike Godzilla so BA bullrushing (especially his eye) can probably take him out.

Kong blitzes! Bro dodged lightspeed radiation beam!

He did it multiple times too. To be fair since a lot of people scale speed that way Kong would be a speedster by common power scaling logic.

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Kong isn't touching them anyways, so they blitz the hell out of him

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Kong stomps.

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Kong will beat them,They have no significant damage soak to hurt him.

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Kong has no way to do anything here. He's a statue.

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stalemate. they can't hurt kong

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Black Adam torches Kong. Lighting fries the ape

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@moosixer: Black adam doesn't have the feat to take on Kong.

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Black adam needs better teammates to win.

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@jimohkolawol10:

Yes he does he vaporized multiple pyramids he one shot giant man he effortlessly carried a statue that is bigger and heavier than Kong and he liquified a car in seconds and the speed advantage is insane

Kong gets stomped

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#25  Edited By CyanPhoenix
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Bump

Curious if any opinon changes after the latest movie.

Kong still can't tag them, but both Shazam and Black Adam can't hurt him by punching (Since Kong Scales to Godzilla being capable of withstanding his Bites without losing limbs outright) so they're pretty much forced to use lightning to do something, it seems Kong has a degree of electric resistance but it's unknown if it's sufficient to outright no sell their attacks, other alternative they can try is to throw him out of orbit but apparently Kong's sheer weight might just be high enough to make him incapable of being lifted by either of them.

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Adam takes this alone.

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@moosixer said:

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Yes he does he vaporized multiple pyramids he one shot giant man he effortlessly carried a statue that is bigger and heavier than Kong and he liquified a car in seconds and the speed advantage is insane

Kong gets stomped

I didn't see any pyramid when he destroyed the mine .

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@jimohkolawol10:

When he killed the dude that killed his son and wife that entire pyramid was vaporized.

Not to mention he to fast to strong and to durable

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@moosixer said:

@jimohkolawol10:

When he killed the dude that killed his son and wife that entire pyramid was vaporized.

Which pyramid was vaporized?

Not to mention he to fast to strong and to durable

Fast not as strong

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@jimohkolawol10:

Black adam is physically stronger than Kong easy those boulders that smashed those other apes were not as big as the statue Adam carried effortlessly.

kong has no counter for speed strength flight or electricity.

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@kreigastartis:

Kong gets destroyed he cant hurt or hit Adam and he gets fried by Adam lighting blast. His metal arm gets melted off.

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@moosixer said:

@jimohkolawol10:

Black adam is physically stronger than Kong easy those boulders that smashed those other apes were not as big as the statue Adam carried effortlessly

BA has the lifting advantage but lack the damage soak to harm kong who took Godzilla's atomic breath and still stood up.

kong has no counter for speed strength flight or electricity.

This is irrelevant when you have nothing harm your opponent and everyone was tagging and tracing BA speed in the entire movie ling would eventually catch him and flog him.

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@moosixer said:

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Kong gets destroyed he cant hurt or hit Adam and he gets fried by Adam lighting blast. His metal arm gets melted off.

He can't hurt Adam? His punches are capable of hurting Godzilla who's beyond the DCEU. What makes you think Adam can hurt him.

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@moosixer said:

@kreigastartis:

Kong gets destroyed he cant hurt or hit Adam and he gets fried by Adam lighting blast. His metal arm gets melted off.

why not, last I checked Adam scales to mountain level at best and is MHS. Kong has reacted to Godzilla's atomic breath which is high relativistic. And a weaker Godzilla survived the Permian extinction event. And Kong is able to hurt him in a much more powerful state. Also his lightning is going to have little effect since Godzilla's breath works in a sub atomic scale.

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@kreigastartis: Adam does not come close to mountain level. He caps at town level.

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#38  Edited By diydeath
@nwname said:
@jurance said:

@nwname: @great_darkness: What did he dodge that's lightspeed?

Atomic breath and shimos breath are both radiation supposedly

Given the portrayal of Kong in the movie I find that obnoxiously hard to believe lol. If Kong was anywhere near light speed it would create an insane amount of plot holes and is exactly why scaling in the face of context isn't a great idea.

That's how we ended up with MulTiVeRsAl Kratos and Kaguya.

Anyhow the more likely scenario is that the writers for the Monsterverse suck at their jobs because of the logical inconsistencies. KG created hurricane with it's wing flaps so in-universe if Kong was anywhere near relativistic, by moving, he'd cause natural disasters just like KG.

So something is super, super off with scaling in Monsterverse and until that gets solved fancalcs are gonna end up with all sorts on nonsense like relativistic King Kong which as I pointed out, breaks in-universe rules.

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@jimohkolawol10:

BA one shot giant man who tanked his lighting explosion that was mountain level easily. Kong never tanked Godzilla atomic breath he was only grazed by it and it burned him clearly. Once again a small voltage from that ship restarted Kong heart Black Adam would kill Kong easily.

Kong has no heat resistance feats at all he gets burned right through ir his heart gets shocked.

No everyone wasn’t tagging and tracing black Adam once he got serious he casually blitz Hawkman who was a casual lighting timer to the point he couldn’t land one single hit.

And I’ve already explained why black Adam punches can hurt ko or kill kong since it’s heavily implied king would die from giant boulders falling on him.

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@jurance:

He never not once hurt Godzilla and Godzilla durability is wildly inconsistent he is constantly getting hurt by getting knocked into buildings and was ko from falling from the sky.

Kong is never land a hit on a target that small and fast and who can constantly attack him from long range with lighting Adam flattens the ape easily

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Oh lord here we go with this nonsense.

Reacting to Godzilla atomic breath isn’t saying much since his aim is awful not to mention the incredibly slow start up time.

Godzilla surviving that instinction event means nothing when he’s water creature means he didn’t even have to be on the surface where most of the chaos was happening on top of that we’ve seen Godzilla hurt from getting knocked into buildings and from falling from the sky his durability is overrated

His lighting isn’t going to be minimal since we know it didn’t take much electricity to restart Kong heart not to mention Kong has 0 heat resistance and if Adam explodes Kong is dead easily he was going to be killed from boulders falling on him

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@jurance:

Adam is easily mountain level is explosions would vaporize of mountain

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@moosixer said:

@jurance:

He never not once hurt Godzilla

He did. He hit Godzilla with both his fists and beast glove in Egypt, obviously the glove did most of the damage but his fists still contributed. He definitely hurt Godzilla during their fights in GvK, not a lot but there's no way you can't tell me that Godzilla wasn't hurt.

and Godzilla durability is wildly inconsistent he is constantly getting hurt by getting knocked into buildings

When?

and was ko from falling from the sky.

Godzilla is a 100,000 ton beast dropped from tens of thousands of meters in the air. He fell at reentry speeds. Not like the fall did most of the damage, Ghidorah literally choked him via squeezing his neck to the point he lost his grip and stopped trying to resist.

Kong is never land a hit on a target that small and fast and who can constantly attack him from long range with lighting Adam flattens the ape easily

Atom was able to land a hit on him.

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@moosixer said:

@jurance:

Adam is easily mountain level is explosions would vaporize of mountain

LOL.

How did you come up with this?

Also you claimed in post #28 that Black Adam vaped a pyramid. He literally never did that.

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@jurance:

He knocked Godzilla down in Egypt that was about it and the glove did most of the work.

Kong never hurt Godzilla in gvk without the weapon he literally lacks the strength to hurt Godzilla with his bare hands show me the feat where Kong hurt Godzilla without any weapons…

My point exactly Adam and Superman no sold reentry so does that mean there more durable than Godzilla? The fall did do most of the damage he was conscious prior to getting dropped after that he couldn’t move.

BA ko’s Kong he’s no where near as durable a Godzilla and he’s to big of a target from long range lighting

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#46  Edited By Moosixer

@jurance:

His second explosion destroyed that entire area and even sent a shockwave that destroyed rocks for miles out not to mention the Shazam lighting that hit the water and cause an explosion that dwarfed mountains in that area as well

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@moosixer said:

@jimohkolawol10:

BA one shot giant man who tanked his lighting explosion that was mountain level easily. Kong never tanked Godzilla atomic breath he was only grazed by it and it burned him clearly. Once again a small voltage from that ship restarted Kong heart Black Adam would kill Kong easily.

AGAIN I don't see any mountain or pyramid bursting you said BA has and Smasher doesn't have any noteworthy of blunt durability feat,Kong was hit and burned by it which is still better than anything BA did in the movie .

Kong has no heat resistance feats at all he gets burned right through ir his heart gets shocked.

Never said he had,The heat he took still unmatched by anything in BA movie I' don't remember Kong getting hart burnt.

No everyone wasn’t tagging and tracing black Adam once he got serious he casually blitz Hawkman who was a casual lighting timer to the point he couldn’t land one single hit.

Yes many were tagging and tracing him.https://youtu.be/x_4RCEIWJaQ?si=X0iqYr96hU64XGQy .https://youtu.be/1khxE6m8xow?si=GMzENbKSySO_ZZGT and his lightning output speed is far slower than real lightning.

And I’ve already explained why black Adam punches can hurt ko or kill kong since it’s heavily implied king would die from giant boulders falling on him.

This wrong,It's most like thr other way around, Kong can harm Godzilla who tank Superior H-Bomb in Monarch series and also took his own BB.

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@moosixer:

Reacting to Godzilla atomic breath isn’t saying much since his aim is awful not to mention the incredibly slow start up time.

Oh? so reacting to the near light speed blast from close range after the beam has been fired isn't much? 0:45 and literally frame by frame 2:33 in 4K.

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Godzilla surviving that instinction event means nothing when he’s water creature means he didn’t even have to be on the surface where most of the chaos was happening on top of that we’ve seen Godzilla hurt from getting knocked into buildings and from falling from the sky his durability is overrated

But he was on the surface lol. The meteor landed near him. Also being hurt by Mecha Godzilla who had hollow earth energy isn't the anti feat you think it is.

His lighting isn’t going to be minimal since we know it didn’t take much electricity to restart Kong heart not to mention Kong has 0 heat resistance and if Adam explodes Kong is dead easily he was going to be killed from boulders falling on him

briefly tanking Godzilla's breath is far better than Adams lightning. This is the same Adam who was being hurt getting knocked around through buildings by Hawkman right? He gets squished.

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@kreigastartis:

Im really not taking anyone who tries to argue Kong being light speed serious. Black widow reacted to chitari weapons i guess she's also lightspeed as well right? loool.

It was never stated the meteor landed near him either it just stated that he was alive before and after it happened.

No it's not Kong got grazed he didn't tank it at all it barely touched him and left him burned. Adam was literally never hurt in the movie getting knocked through buildings did nothing to him. Meanwhile Kong could die from huge rocks falling on him lol BA fries the ape.

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@jimohkolawol10:

Thats enough lighting to fry Kong. We seen the ship which isn't close to the voltage restart his heart Adam lighting blast destroys the ape heart.

He was grazed he didn't get hit full on.

Yea no once Adam got slightly serious no one could touch him and that includes hawkman. His lighting is just as fast if not faster than actual lighting.

Godzilla was ko'd from getting knocked into buildings and having them collapse on him. Adam hits way harder than Kong and would literally statue kong and blitz him all over the battlefield.