Big Mom vs Escanor (Chosen One Mode)

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#1 Posted by Rowso77 (164 posts) - - Show Bio
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Morals on

Escanor can stay in his ultimate form for as long as he needs

Escanor has his axe

Win by death

Both start off 30 ft from eachother

Who wins?

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#2 Posted by zxc6 (743 posts) - - Show Bio

Escanor win via feats,Big Mom via hype

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#3 Posted by YhwachSOLOKING (307 posts) - - Show Bio

escanor oneshots

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#4 Posted by NocTimereaper (232 posts) - - Show Bio

Escanor makes her "Praise The Sun!" one last final time before shes just turned into ash.???

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#5 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (4385 posts) - - Show Bio

Unlimited ONE??? Escanor stomps. Anyways:

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#6 Posted by sammythegreat (34 posts) - - Show Bio

There is no debate here... Escanor swipes his hand and that's the end of big momma

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#7 Posted by FaradaySloth (12214 posts) - - Show Bio

Big Mom would win

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#8 Posted by Hey_Thatsmildlyadequate (1868 posts) - - Show Bio

Escanor no contest

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#9 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19670 posts) - - Show Bio
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#10 Posted by FaradaySloth (12214 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: Admittedly it's mostly based on hype, but she should have way better speed scaling and she has enough hax to put him down. She won't be like Melascula and just eat his soul btw.

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#11 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19670 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: Both scale an unknown amount above lightning speed. And she can only eat the soul of people who she makes afraid, so that obviously won't work.

Now if we look at durability Escanor while at 50k tanked Galand's critical over, which is above anything Big Mom has tanked, and Meliodas at 54k tanked Gloxinia's attack, which was also above anything Big Mom has tanked. I do think she could survive both attacks, and possibly tank them based off of hype, but her being able to tank attacks on hype alone should stop at around there. Estarossa was able to knock a stronger version of Escanor, so each of his punches already scales above Galand's critical over, and he was wrecked by assault mode Meliodas, who was wrecked by the one Escanor. Plus Meliodas' Danafor feat is way above anything Big Mom is capable of, and the one Escanor should be above that as well.

With future feats, Big Mom may be able to win, but as of now she loses imo. The best I think she can beat for now is EOS Diane.

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#12 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (6170 posts) - - Show Bio

Praise the sun.

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#13 Posted by AGrape (587 posts) - - Show Bio

He can handle Ms big bones.

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#14 Posted by Bearderby (1729 posts) - - Show Bio

Escanor wins, he is invincible with that form in his verse

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#15 Posted by Consciouskeeper (2596 posts) - - Show Bio

Big mom by scales over luffy so she is easily shrugging off continent level attacks which by feats is above what eacanor can put out so. Big mom wins eventually.

Prometheus is a problem for her tho

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#16 Posted by shirso (5494 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: Big Mom scales way above quad machs, however I don't think she is much faster than The One who blitzed AM Meliodas who reacted to a Cruel Sun point blank. Escanor wins for now due to better feats in dc and durability but I don't think he is faster at all.

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#17 Posted by FaradaySloth (12214 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: Ah crap, forgot that one weakness of hers.

However, Big Mom definitely has better scaling that Escanor no doubt. People tiers below her have reacted to lightning, the speed gap inverse should be much larger compared to Escanor.

I’m merely speaking for hype at this point, I’m tired of a good portion of One Piece Characters being entirely fearless even if we know how strong they should be. The only category I see Escanor a definite edge even against the hype is durability and overall power.

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#18 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19670 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth:

However, Big Mom definitely has better scaling that Escanor no doubt. People tiers below her have reacted to lightning, the speed gap inverse should be much larger compared to Escanor.

BOS base Mel reacted to lightning. I don't think I need to explain how many tiers Escanor is above that.

The only category I see Escanor a definite edge even against the hype is durability and overall power.

But it's not like Big Mom is skilled or anything, so those two things should be enough.

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#19 Posted by FaradaySloth (12214 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: the gap between Brook and Big Mom is bigger than BOS Mel and Escanor.

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#20 Posted by ChromeDisaster (719 posts) - - Show Bio

Big Mom dies without the feats to verify the hype behind her

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#21 Edited by Kalebsmarty156 (4141 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy is Continental? When?

Looks like natsu has a rival now.

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#22 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19670 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: Proof? Brook legit dodged big Mom, making her look noticeably annoyed. I would like to see BOS Mel dodge the one Escanor.

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#23 Posted by JuzaCloud (3862 posts) - - Show Bio

Big mama got that cornbread and brisket waiting on escanor.

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#24 Posted by FaradaySloth (12214 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: dude that was a casual hand swap. Admiral Level characters have calced quad Mach speed feats

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/quantifying-a-few-one-piece-speed-feats-1997961/

Just because Nakaba can’t speed scale for crap doesn’t mean Escanor can suddenly be at these levels.

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#25 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19670 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth:

dude that was a casual hand swap. Admiral Level characters have calced quad Mach speed feats

That link only had Aokiji's flash freeze in the quad mach range. Can you prove Big Mom can move faster than Aokiji can freeze things, because I find it highly unlikely she could outrun his freeze move.

Just because Nakaba can’t speed scale for crap doesn’t mean Escanor can suddenly be at these levels.

Actually I think Escanor was calced to be in the quad machs due to his cruel sun sending Estarossa out of Monspiet's multi hundred sensing range in seconds, and then later dodging a stronger version of a full countered cruel sun at point blank range, while still not even in the one mode.

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#26 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (4385 posts) - - Show Bio

Unlimited ONE??? Escanor stomps. Anyways:

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Don't scroll without praising.

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#27 Posted by Kalebsmarty156 (4141 posts) - - Show Bio
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#28 Posted by FaradaySloth (12214 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss:

That link only had Aokiji's flash freeze in the quad mach range. Can you prove Big Mom can move faster than Aokiji can freeze things, because I find it highly unlikely she could outrun his freeze move.

Why do you doubt it? That was Aokiji's first appearance and he did it casually. Unless if you imply Aokiji can casually blitz the Yonko with just one attack because that seems like what you're doing. BM might not have feats but that doesn't mean we throw out logic.

Actually I think Escanor was calced to be in the quad machs due to his cruel sun sending Estarossa out of Monspiet's multi hundred sensing range in seconds, and then later dodging a stronger version of a full countered cruel sun at point blank range, while still not even in the one mode.

This was debunked. What Hawk said was a clear exaggeration, since one of the translations said Hawk stated "aren't they like millionsof miles away" and even if you're hellbent on thinking that it was "hundreds" of miles away (only "hundreds of miles" distance was Megadozer to Camelot, which Monspiet's attack clearly didn't travel anywhere close to that) Mama Hawk's run was clearly shown to be at the same speed of Monspiet's attack, and she had a pretty huge head start.

Do basic calculations Monspiet's attack is still only MHS. Escanor dodging a strongerFC Cruel Sun means nothing, since when does FC increase the speed? This hasn't shown to be true since Twigo lol.

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#29 Posted by Consciouskeeper (2596 posts) - - Show Bio

The most useless debate is happening right now. Holy moly.

Big mom>>>>luffy>>>dolfy>>>escanor.

Simple scaling next

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#30 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19670 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth:

Why do you doubt it? That was Aokiji's first appearance and he did it casually. Unless if you imply Aokiji can casually blitz the Yonko with just one attack because that seems like what you're doing. BM might not have feats but that doesn't mean we throw out logic.

She would just break out of the ice, she doesn't need to dodge it.

Escanor dodging a strongerFC Cruel Sun means nothing, since when does FC increase the speed?

Even if it wasn't faster, his cruel sun still went out of Monspiet's sensing range in seconds.

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#31 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19670 posts) - - Show Bio

The most useless debate is happening right now. Holy moly.

Big mom>>>>luffy>>>dolfy>>>escanor.

Simple scaling next

Lol what.

Doflamingo<Luffy<<<Big Mom<<<Meliodas that destroyed Danafor<<<The One Escanor

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#32 Posted by Consciouskeeper (2596 posts) - - Show Bio
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#33 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (4385 posts) - - Show Bio
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@consciouskeeper: Big Mom, Luffy, and Doffy have 0 feats or scaling to put them above this. THE ONE one-shot a stronger version of Meliodas with the air pressure from a hand swipe. C'mon now.

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#34 Posted by Hey_Thatsmildlyadequate (1868 posts) - - Show Bio

Big Mom>>>>Luffy>>Doflamingo >>>Brook>>>Spiderman>Batman with no legs>>>Rick Grimes>>>>>BoS Meliodas>>>The One Escanor>>Zeldris

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#35 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19670 posts) - - Show Bio

@consciouskeeper: The One Escanor stomped Zeldris, he lost because Chandler used true night and he turned back to his regular form. So The One Escanor>>>Zeldris. And I don't know where you are getting Doflamingo and the others being above Zeldris.

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#36 Posted by Consciouskeeper (2596 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: stomped zeldris? Lmaooo Okay. Now we really bias? Okay.

Where I am getting doflamingo above zeldris ? Yikes

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#37 Posted by Consciouskeeper (2596 posts) - - Show Bio

@worldofruin6: seththeprogrammer put luffy at continent level and no one has debunked him yet.

Give it a try

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#38 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (4385 posts) - - Show Bio

@consciouskeeper: So you are basing your arguments off of a single individual's trash powerscaling. Why don't you try to show some feats or scaling for any of the characters you mentioned to put their DC above Mel vaping Danafor? Spoiler alert, there are none.

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#39 Posted by FaradaySloth (12214 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss:

That was Aokiji's most casual attack. He would go for his strongest and if he knows she'll break out of them why not just pile layer after layer after layer? It logically makes zero sense for Aokiji to casually blitz Big Mom.

Even if it wasn't faster, his cruel sun still went out of Monspiet's sensing range in seconds.

That's still only MHS.

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#40 Posted by FaradaySloth (12214 posts) - - Show Bio

First MFTL Luffy now continent? Conscious has to be trolling.

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#41 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19670 posts) - - Show Bio

@consciouskeeper:

:stomped zeldris? Lmaooo Okay. Now we really bias? Okay.

He overpowered Zeldris' ominous nebula with his bare hand, and then proceeded to skewer Zeldris with his finger.

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And he stomped assault mode Meliodas, who stomped Zeldris.

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Where I am getting doflamingo above zeldris ? Yikes

Yeah I want your reasoning, except you seem to think Seth's ludicrous scaling is a valid source, and think Zeldris is above the one escanor even though it's clearly shown otherwise, so I doubt I'll get anything good from you.

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#43 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (6170 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss:

Off Topic: The One should be above Zeldris but not based on his showings against the AM Meliodas that fought The One as we clearly saw Zeldris can easily keep up with 200+ pl fighters and did way better against The One.

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#44 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19670 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest: AM Meliodas may have only had a power level of 142,000 but he had his sacred treasure and power level doesn't really mean everything. He beat Zeldris, Estarossa, and Cusack all at the same time casually, and AM Meliodas is stated to be the version who led the ten commandments. Zeldris is really only so dangerous due to ominous nebula and the demon king power which makes it so no magic works on him. Without those two powers he is only around Estarossa level.

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#45 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19670 posts) - - Show Bio

@consciouskeeper: I'm sure we could, but he wouldn't agree with us so it would just be a waist of time.

And it isn't just One Piece, imo Seth highballs every verse. He says Bleach and Naruto characters are multi planet level, and DBS characters are 4D and multiversal (Zeno is multiversal, but nobody else as of now).

If he made a video about seven deadly sins he would probably end up putting them at continent level as well, even though I don't think they are nearly that strong.

But this isn't a Seth thread, so lets not talk about him. He isn't a source, so how about you use your own mind and come up with your own reasonings?

Bring your evidence, and I will debunk it.

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#46 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (6170 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss:

Nah the only way it would make sense is if AM Mel got a considerably large powerup to put Zel down and that was base Cusack anyway.

Zeldris literally tanked The One‘s Diving Sword with his sword meanwhile the AM Mel that fought the one got oneshotted by a non-contact Divine Sword.

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#47 Posted by shirso (5494 posts) - - Show Bio

If I am not mistaken Seth's arguments for continental OP comes from the OP planet being super massive which would bump several feats by entire tiers.

While there certainly is evidence for the OP planet being bigger than normal, its nothing concrete to base on yet.

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#48 Edited by Djibbo__ (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss said:

With future feats, Big Mom may be able to win, but as of now she loses imo.

The best I think she can beat for now is EOS Diane.

agreed with the first part, but I fairly think that diane wins that too.

Sorry but at the moment escanor is too much, but i’m Sure that in the future OP characters are getting crazy power ups

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#49 Edited by AlexTheBoss (19670 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest: Zeldris blocked, Meliodas didn't. Also Meliodas wasn't mentally all there. Zeldris stated if Meliodas was serious he wouldn't have lost, though I don't know if that is true or not.

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Zeldris hard counters people who rely on magic, but characters who are physically stronger than him can still beat him, and Escanor in the one form can walk right through ominous nebula. If he is permanently in the one mode it would be nothing but a stomp.

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#50 Posted by HitTheAssasin (8794 posts) - - Show Bio

Escanor stomps for now.