Beyonder Vs. Superman (Cosmic Armor)

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Round 1: Beyonder (Secret Wars) Vs Superman (Cosmic Armor)

Round 2: Beyonder (Armored) Vs Superman (Cosmic Armor)

Round 3: Beyonder (Inhuman) Vs Superman (Cosmic Armor)

Rules:

No Backup For Superman

Death Only

No Spectre Or Living Tribunal

Who Wins?

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LOL. Beyonder doesn't need armor let alone a body. The fact that Superman needs a peripheral like an armor to increase power is more than enough to know that he isn't winning this.

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@alberto_weskardo: "cosmic armor" is another name for the thought robot, the thing that could touch/hold the power of the DC multiverse and is powered by everything that was, is, and ever will be IIRC. It's pretty far up there.

Not sure if post-retcon beyonder can beat it, though the PR one could do work. Simply haven't seen many feats for post-retcon one, or any really specific beyonder. I believe secret wars' one was pretty weak??? If so, it can probably clear the first round, not sure about the other two, but I was under the impression they got weaker down the list.

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Well, Cosmic Armor Superman literally had the power of plot. So, and this is so meta- and inane to say, really only a writer can beat him. If, as the character in a narrative, he can effect and change the plot of the story he is in, then only a person outside of the story is more powerful then him. CA Supes is such a mind-boggling concept.

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@alberto_weskardo: no one can damage pre retcon beyonder. If pre retcon beyonder doesnt want to be damaged he will never be damaged

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So the guy who was killed by a guy who waskilled by gls with rings ar 2% power vs the dude who killed death, lolnoped an attack that could destroy 1 million dimensions etc etc

hmm...tough one

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@alberto_weskardo: yes, Beyonder can 100% be "damaged beyond repair". Certainly PR beyonder is excessively powerful, but the one after his retcon is pretty weak by comparison. This is a Robot that was a multiversal threat, and the beyonder in this match is after the retcon AFAIK, making all of his PR feats worthless.

Once again, I have no bearing as to who wins, but the TR is muhc more powerful than you seem to believe it to be.

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@alberto_weskardo: no one can damage pre retcon beyonder. If pre retcon beyonder doesnt want to be damaged he will never be damaged

not true. TOAA could likely beat PR beyonder in the Marvel universe. The same could be said for any omnipotent in it's own realm against him.

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@alberto_weskardo: yes, Beyonder can 100% be "damaged beyond repair". Certainly PR beyonder is excessively powerful, but the one after his retcon is pretty weak by comparison. This is a Robot that was a multiversal threat, and the beyonder in this match is after the retcon AFAIK, making all of his PR feats worthless.

Once again, I have no bearing as to who wins, but the TR is muhc more powerful than you seem to believe it to be.

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@alberto_weskardo: no one can damage pre retcon beyonder. If pre retcon beyonder doesnt want to be damaged he will never be damaged

not true. TOAA could likely beat PR beyonder in the Marvel universe. The same could be said for any omnipotent in it's own realm against him.

But the Beyonder was the one that was retconning himself, so I guess in respect, he can be damaged 100%, but only by his own accord and his own means.

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#13  Edited By JwwProd

This guy comes and curbstomps both ;)

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#14  Edited By Abnegazar

Pre-Retcon Beyonder should win here.

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@dratini1331: ive read beyonder say so himself that whatever he says or thinks, or what he wants be real or not, is reality. Everything in the omniverse are the way they are because the beyonder says or thinks so.

So in short pre retcon beyonder decides whether or not he gets damaged or killed.

I see him as toaa's equal. Are there any scans that show toaa being superior to pre retcon beyonder?

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@myrongains: TOAA is literally Jack Kirby, he is completely omnipotent in the Marvel universe as the embodiment of the writers. Beyonder has never been at that level, though there are rumors that PR beyonder was a marvel editor who left the company, and thus the retcon.

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#17  Edited By VantaGas

@thegrayghosttakes 2 much brai. power:

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#18  Edited By Mxyzptlk_CV

Thought Robot Superman is above the Beyonder...

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#19  Edited By lol

Beyonder classic stomps idk about the inhuman beyonder @ rolldestroyer @killemall

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#20  Edited By ThEBeStOfTheBeST

Thought robot can be beaten by true gods (Primal Monitor , MoM,TOAA) in this thread i can see him wining .

But if it was PR beyonder .... idk

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TR, all rounds

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@dratini1331: Pre retcon destroys supes lol. That bugger was shrugging off blasts that could destroy billions of dimensions

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Beyonder, all rounds except 3.

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beyonder one shots

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Pre-R Beyonder wins. Post-R loses.

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The Cosmic Armor is made of Pure Nothingness and Pure Thought. The Monitor Sphere is a dimension that transcends Limbo that which has no material thing to be destroyed and thus has no heat, energy or mass by that description.

The Monitors are based on Platonic Archetypes, but I steer clear away of Outerversalism, having said that, TR Superman was above the Infinite-Multiversal Bleed Space (this is a fact) adding other interpretations of DC's Cosmology to merge to hype him up are needed while Beyonder is directly Infinite-D and above in power.

I would give Beyonder a majority. Although Beyonder unfortunately would get crushed by TR Superman using Composite DC Cosmology and under the Metafiction tiering system.

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The Cosmic Armor is made of Pure Nothingness and Pure Thought. The Monitor Sphere is a dimension that transcends Limbo that which has no material thing to be destroyed and thus has no heat, energy or mass by that description.

The Monitors are based on Platonic Archetypes, but I steer clear away of Outerversalism, having said that, TR Superman was above the Infinite-Multiversal Bleed Space (this is a fact) adding other interpretations of DC's Cosmology to merge to hype him up are needed while Beyonder is directly Infinite-D and above in power.

I would give Beyonder a majority. Although Beyonder unfortunately would get crushed by TR Superman using Composite DC Cosmology and under the Metafiction tiering system.

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Complete stalemate.

Preretcon Beyonder exists outside of his mutliverse and writes the story to whatever he needs it to be.

Cosmic Armor Superman exists outside of his multiverse and writes the story to whatever he needs it to be.

This is the ultimate stalemate between the two.