Beyonder vs Galactus

"well since he didnt post what version...I will assume its pre retcon...BEYONDER STOMPS GALACTUS SO HARD HE CRIES BLOOD "

"well since he didnt post what version...I will assume its pre retcon...BEYONDER STOMPS GALACTUS SO HARD HE CRIES BLOOD "

"@Superparody said:

"well since he didnt post what version...I will assume its pre retcon...BEYONDER STOMPS GALACTUS SO HARD HE CRIES BLOOD "

If the OP is not saying what type we are using then we are using curent whatever.  So this is curent Beyonder vs Galactus. I am not familiar with curent Beyonder but i belive his an inhuman. "

"@Xan said:

"@Superparody said:

"well since he didnt post what version...I will assume its pre retcon...BEYONDER STOMPS GALACTUS SO HARD HE CRIES BLOOD "

If the OP is not saying what type we are using then we are using curent whatever.  So this is curent Beyonder vs Galactus. I am not familiar with curent Beyonder but i belive his an inhuman. "

awww you guys ruined my buzzz... I think Galactus can take the current version "

" There is no way of telling. The current version has only appeared in one issue.
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" @Morpheus_ said:

" There is no way of telling. The current version has only appeared in one issue.
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Yeah, I agree. We really need to see more of him before we can tell whether Galactus is stronger or not. "

" @Baldy said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" There is no way of telling. The current version has only appeared in one issue.
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Yeah, I agree. We really need to see more of him before we can tell whether Galactus is stronger or not. "

While he appeared to be immensely powerful, we have no idea as to the limitations he may have. Many characters may appear omnipotent, without being anywhere near it. "

" @Baldy said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" There is no way of telling. The current version has only appeared in one issue.
"

Yeah, I agree. We really need to see more of him before we can tell whether Galactus is stronger or not. "

While he appeared to be immensely powerful, we have no idea as to the limitations he may have. Many characters may appear omnipotent, without being anywhere near it. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Baldy said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" There is no way of telling. The current version has only appeared in one issue.
"

Yeah, I agree. We really need to see more of him before we can tell whether Galactus is stronger or not. "

While he appeared to be immensely powerful, we have no idea as to the limitations he may have. Many characters may appear omnipotent, without being anywhere near it. "

i mean he has control over matter and reality to an extent, but immensely powerful foes have been seen to overpower him, and galactus is one of them.  "

How did you come up with these conclusions, seeing that he has only appeared in one issue?
 
If you imply Galactus has displayed abilities that exceed current Beyonder, you could very well be correct (mostly because we don't know how powerful the mutant Inhuman Beyonder really is), but it's fallacious to theorise without data. You may retain the opinion that Galan would win, but I just can't give an estimation.

"@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Baldy said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" There is no way of telling. The current version has only appeared in one issue.
"

Yeah, I agree. We really need to see more of him before we can tell whether Galactus is stronger or not. "

While he appeared to be immensely powerful, we have no idea as to the limitations he may have. Many characters may appear omnipotent, without being anywhere near it. "

i mean he has control over matter and reality to an extent, but immensely powerful foes have been seen to overpower him, and galactus is one of them.  "

 

How did you come up with these conclusions, seeing that he has only appeared in one issue?
 
If you imply Galactus has displayed abilities that exceed current Beyonder, you could very well be correct (mostly because we don't know how powerful the mutant Inhuman Beyonder really is), but it's fallacious to theorise without data. You may retain the opinion that Galan would win, but I just can't give an estimation.

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" @Morpheus_ said:

"@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Baldy said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" There is no way of telling. The current version has only appeared in one issue.
"

Yeah, I agree. We really need to see more of him before we can tell whether Galactus is stronger or not. "

While he appeared to be immensely powerful, we have no idea as to the limitations he may have. Many characters may appear omnipotent, without being anywhere near it. "

i mean he has control over matter and reality to an extent, but immensely powerful foes have been seen to overpower him, and galactus is one of them.  "

 

How did you come up with these conclusions, seeing that he has only appeared in one issue?
 
If you imply Galactus has displayed abilities that exceed current Beyonder, you could very well be correct (mostly because we don't know how powerful the mutant Inhuman Beyonder really is), but it's fallacious to theorise without data. You may retain the opinion that Galan would win, but I just can't give an estimation.

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he has been in a lot of issues.  the retconn about his powers occured years before his most recent retconn, which is simply on his origin. "

First of all the retcons have changed the Beyonder's power level (but all of them are above Galan).
 
PreRetcon Beyonder was Marvel's answer to The-One-Above-All (from another Megaverse), before there was The-One-Above-All.  He was supposed to be Omnipotent.  This was the Beyonder from Secret Wars I & II.
 
1st Retcon of the Beyonder, had his a part of the cosmic cube (which later became Ksomos), the reamianing part of the cosmic cube woke up Owen Reece's power and Owen was stated to be stronger then the Beyonder.  BTW, a cosmic cube >>> Galan. The events in Secret Wars I & II were said to be the Beyonder's imagination.
 
2nd Retcon of the Beyonder is the current one, he is a nigh-omnipotent Mutant Inhuman.  Although he is weaker than his original form he is again higher on the food chain as the events of Secret Wars I & II were again given credit and not as the Beyonder's imagination.

"First of all the retcons have changed the Beyonder's power level (but all of them are above Galan).  PreRetcon Beyonder was Marvel's answer to The-One-Above-All (from another Megaverse), before there was The-One-Above-All.  He was supposed to be Omnipotent.  This was the Beyonder from Secret Wars I & II.  1st Retcon of the Beyonder, had his a part of the cosmic cube (which later became Ksomos), the reamianing part of the cosmic cube woke up Owen Reece's power and Owen was stated to be stronger then the Beyonder.  BTW, a cosmic cube >>> Galan. The events in Secret Wars I & II were said to be the Beyonder's imagination. 2nd Retcon of the Beyonder is the current one, he is a nigh-omnipotent Mutant Inhuman.  Although he is weaker than his original form he is again higher on the food chain as the events of Secret Wars I & II were again given credit and not as the Beyonder's imagination. "

" I really haven't kept in touch with all the comic going on in a few years.  I still have a considerable collection and have a really good memmory of all the story lines.  Second beyonder kosmos is in no way as powerful as Galactus.  Kosmos is of a finite element while Galactus is infinite to a degree.  that is what seperates the two.  The Cosmic cube was or is a very powerful object, but in no way can out do the infinity gems.  The beyonder of old, in my opinion was even stronger than the infinity gems.  The gems combined was the power and the beyonder by himself was the power to "unmake or undo Power", according to Doctor Strange. That is just my opinion... "

whats recon beyounder new powers? 
 

current beyonder is a inhuman with mortal emotions, galactus is beyond that, no pun intended.  this would almost be like vulcan vs galactus.  omega level mutant vs galactus. galactus wins everytime, he is just to far above that.

                    current beyonder is a inhuman with mortal emotions, galactus is beyond that, no pun intended.  this would almost be like vulcan vs galactus.  omega level mutant vs galactus. galactus wins everytime, he is just to far above that.

                   

               

                    @jec777 said:

                    current beyonder is a inhuman with mortal emotions, galactus is beyond that, no pun intended.  this would almost be like vulcan vs galactus.  omega level mutant vs galactus. galactus wins everytime, he is just to far above that.

                   

               

Appeal to status logical fallacy. Your argument seems to hinge on the idea that regardless of how powerful current beyonder is, because he's not the same level of entity as Galactus, he'd lose. Not a genuine argument.

                   

               

                    @Jezer said:

                    @jec777 said:

                    current beyonder is a inhuman with mortal emotions, galactus is beyond that, no pun intended.  this would almost be like vulcan vs galactus.  omega level mutant vs galactus. galactus wins everytime, he is just to far above that.

                   

               

Appeal to status logical fallacy. Your argument seems to hinge on the idea that regardless of how powerful current beyonder is, because he's not the same level of entity as Galactus, he'd lose. Not a genuine argument.

                   

               

but it is a fact

                   

               

I`m a huge Galactus fan,anyone that have seen me post knows this.All I know is the big-B`s power went to spiderman for a billionth of a second ,and he brutalizes the heros of earth(and Galactus)and remade the universe in that time.And I think that was inhuman version Beyonder!

I just made a long post and it got erased!short version.Galactus can usually match any foe,by consuming extra planets.With a pre-retcon beyonder,he could consume the whole multi-verse and it still would not be enough.The only chance is his tech,thats how doom beat him.and who knows how the ultimate nullifier would effect him?

Galactus wins.

Doctor Doom never defeated Pre-Recton Beyonder.

Pre-Recton Beyonder already swatted Galactus like a fly.

I am well aware of that my friend,as far as if Doom beat the Beyonder,willingly or no is just a matter of opinion.I am not trying to dispute pre-retcone Beyonders power,I know he swatted Big-G like he was a bug.(my favorite character by the way)I would just like to see him fire the nullifier on the Beyonder before he had a chance to react.As to would it do anything to him is all speculation at this point.And I can`t wait for full power Beyonder and Owen for that matter to come back at full power!

Beyonder (Cosmic Cube) Stomps Galactus

Beyonder (Kosmos) Galactus Stomps

Beyonder (Inhuman) Stomps Galactus

Ultimate Nullifier wont even hurt beyonder......it wont even make him worry.

@galactus1967:

Actually Big G and Beyonder never truly faced off with each other in Secret Wars 1. It was the barriers between dimensions that repulsed Galactus.

Oh i agree juggs,but unless Galactus can somehow absorb all the energy from hyperspace.Or the beyonder himself,And I am talking pre-retcon Big-B here.I don`t have enough info to proclaim him the most powerful being in the multi-verse again.But when Spider-man had the power to beat all the heros and Big-G(with the Beyonders power for a billionth of a second)Kind of pissed me off.Because moondragon had just built Bib-G up saying he had no dimensions or boundaries.And what we seen was the tip of the iceberg. So it is the marvel writers not doing their homework again,(and big-B was my favorite character in the 80`s)but G is now.So I just want everyone to be represented correctly.the writers at Marvel seem not to care.They will bring back full power Beyonder again,along with Owen.And with Help Owen will beat the Beyonder again.Count on it!

@beyondergod: What are the feats of Inhuman Beyonder? Side question: If Beyonder is an Inhuman. What is current Molecule Man?(the one who fought Sentry)

is beyonder evil? i can never gauge him.

@pooty: You must be new here,buy thats cool,Owen has been depowered because.None of us know.good question,now answer.Thier isn`t one.I have been trying to figure this out for a while now.The marvel writers won`t tell us so take your best guess.

Have you had a look at his posts compared to yours?? I can safely say he's been around here a lot longer than you lol

Yes I have ,and I admit he has more posts on this site than me.But I lost my silver medal due to changing my cc number.and I have over 4000 comic books that date back to 1961.Mostly marvel,So don`t equate posts with experience.So his posts numbers mean nothing,I have been reading Marvel comics for 41 years.So don`t assume you no it all when I have probably been reading comics before you where alive.

Also Michel julious,Used to post around here ,I made him look so bad because of the proof I had ,not opinion.that he was wrong about Odin against Galactus.And I proved him wrong so bad he did not even post Back.Because I provided back round info that couldn`t be disputed.Now I`m not trying to bury M.J he was a smart poster who probably didn`t have the experience I had.But I have a feelling I could do that to a lot of 20 something guys,So if you Want to be the next victem postI`ll put out a challenge I`m almost 47 and have been collecting Marvel comics for 42 years now.In fact if I go on ebay i have to count the issues I don`t got(have almost all of them).

Beyonder pretty easily.

@galactus1967: You must be new here

What makes you say im new "here". Regardless of how long i've been reading comics it's obvious that i'm not new to this site.

So don`t equate posts with experience

Who is equating post with experience? @lordraiden was pointing out that my post count and join date prove i've been on the site for some time.

So don`t assume you no it all

There must be a misunderstanding. It actually seems like you were assuming i'm new to comics for some reason. But no one is doubting your knowledge or experience. and no one wants to challenge you. It was just odd that you thought I was "new here" when my post count/join date show otherwise.

Owen has been depowered because.None of us know.good question,now answer.Thier isn`t one.I have been trying to figure this out for a while now.The marvel writers won`t tell us so take your best guess

Thanks for verifying what i thought. A new secret wars is coming out. maybe that will shed some light.

@pooty: I`m sorry, I just thought because you where asking questions that you may have been new here((I didn`t look at your post count ,my bad)I come to this site because I enjoy Debating about comics.And I didn`t mean to slight the 12,000 or so posts you made.It`s obvious you like reading comics too,I enjoy a good debate with a knowledgeable person like yourself.So please don`t take it personally my mistake.

@galactus1967: lol@galactus1967: No problem, my Friend. I assume you were born about 1967. I didn't mean to disrespect a SENIOR CITIZEN!! just playing. hope I can get to that age

@pooty: Oh !Thanks for making me feel so old!I`m just kidding it`s all good,and I`m glad you where nice enough to accept my apology.If we ever have a debate over something,I can get a little too harsh.But don`t ever take it personally.I just love to argue with the posters on this site,I just think people into comics are cool(no matter the AGE of that person).And I don`t know the date yet but when the Beyonder returns.I can`t wait to read it,I just hope he is restored to original power levels.Even though I know they will find some B.S reason to stop him

in beyonder's dream(pre retcon), he god stomps

if its not beyonder in his dream (which is the most powerful version of him) then idk

@beyondergod: I admit even when spiderman has Beyonders power (for a billionth of a second) he drops Galactus.But that does not mean the ultimate nullifier wouldn`t destroy Big-B.It has never been used against him ,and just may be the one weapon that can beat him.It is a multi-versal weapon and no one seems to know the extant of it`s full power.Galactus himself has only used it as a weapon once against Korvac,but he managed to kill himself and fled to the future to avoid the beams.Also we don`t know G`s power level when he fought spiderman.