@destinyman75: So are Lucifer and Micheal...Lucifer alone is above multiversal. At full power, he actually controls all of creation, making him on par with The Presence.
This is why mundane Multiversal debates with no dimensional tiering are boring. Basically, to the criteria converted to my understanding, they should all stalemate because they're all Multiversal and that's it. So what's the point of arguing further?
This is why mundane Multiversal debates with no dimensional tiering are boring. Basically, to the criteria converted to my understanding, they should all stalemate because they're all Multiversal and that's it.
This is why mundane Multiversal debates with no dimensional tiering are boring. Basically, to the criteria converted to my understanding, they should all stalemate because they're all Multiversal and that's it. So what's the point of arguing further?
There are different levels of multiversal and infinity
for example there are infinite values between 0 and 1 yet 2 is a larger value then any of them
This is why mundane Multiversal debates with no dimensional tiering are boring. Basically, to the criteria converted to my understanding, they should all stalemate because they're all Multiversal and that's it. So what's the point of arguing further?
There are different levels of multiversal and infinity
for example there are infinite values between 0 and 1 yet 2 is a larger value then any of them
Did I deny there are no different levels of Multiversal and infinity? I'm saying that the people on this thread are not using that as a method of discussion. That's what I'm saying. They're just saying he's Multiversal and that and that's it.
Mr Mxy is the weakest link, but the two brothers are probably the strongest here. But hey, nothing is made, Beyonder, Hotu Thanos and Molecule Man are really powerful The question is if mr Mxy can bring a real help to the duo to defeat the other three, because as strong be the brothers, defeat the other 3 together is frankly complicated.
If Mr Mxy can help and he resists a little to one of the trio, team 2 wins certainly. In case Mr Mxy is not decisive enough, Team 1 wins or Stalemate.
Need I remind everyone that WF Mxy is literally the only being in this fight with a serious direct Multiversal feat. He's the only who has actually destroyed/erased an infinite multiverse and instantly casually at that, no, he actually destroyed everything in DC. A ridiculous stupid feat for a 5D Imp, but it is there.
Everyone else, the other three is either statements, partial Multiversal feats or just scaling and speculation. Worse for Michael and Lucifer because their interpreted power levels is so haywire and difficult to exactly determine. Beyonder and MM have shuck and rippled an Infinite-D Multiverse but they never really destroyed. Which is bad for any debater who is generally of a conservatist strict to feat interpretation of debating like my friend etriel was.
My personal opinion is that if you highball everyone to the max interpretation, it's very difficult to determine because Lucifer, Michael and Beyonder are absurdly powerful, but I think Team 2 can take it.
@sungsam: a ordinary 5d imp is universal level at best right ?
An ordinary 5D Imp is like, baseline Multiversal to Multiversal+ arguably from what I've seen from standard midballing. And is Infinite-D+ via just WF Mxyzptlk. I'm not really sure because the location of the Fifth Dimension changes. It's been stated to exist outside of everything, but was stated by Morrison to be where the Bleed Space rotates inside of, and is not beyond the God Sphere.
@mister_surreal: I can live with that's too. As OP as MM is he's still got limitations in his physical body. I'd say Beyonder, Michael and Lucifer are pretty much in the same boat
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