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#1  Edited By laflux

With all the rate the Debater threads that has been popping up recently- I decided to throw in the hat and ask who in your opinion is the best new debater/ underrated debater.

I ask this because while its great to sing the praises of established master debaters (pun intended), such as Killemall, God_Spawn, CitizenBane and Vance, I think that even with the recent terminator troll scandals that the quality of debating has increased recently, partly because of rapid surge of CaV matches, and also the legalization of Anime vs Comics, which has allowed not only specialized debaters in such field to step forward, but has also enticed people who wouldn't usually enter.

This thread is a celebration to those who are heroes in shadows, if you will.

Lets get this ball rolling

lol only kidding

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#2  Edited By jashro44

is the most underrated debater IMO.

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#3  Edited By Esquire

I'm proud to be considered a hero in the shadows. I'd like to throw a shout out to who's been doing a fantastic job of educating people on all sorts of characters lately, and of course has brought a least a tiny bit of respect to some video game characters. Even if I'm still going to own him with Storm Shadow.

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#4  Edited By VeganDiet

You're actually a pretty good debater from what I've seen.

That nickzambuto guy is pretty good.

SlimJ27D or something along those lines is pretty good.

That's all that I've noticed as far as good, but unnoticed debaters goes.

Edit- Forgot about Bringnit and Jashro44. Both pretty good debaters.

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#6  Edited By renamed040924

@VeganDiet said:

That nickzambuto guy is pretty good.

@Esquire said:

I'm proud to be considered a hero in the shadows. I'd like to throw a shout out to who's been doing a fantastic job of educating people on all sorts of characters lately, and of course has brought a least a tiny bit of respect to some video game characters. Even if I'm still going to own him with Storm Shadow.

I think I've done pretty good with MGS. Got Jashro to admit Big Boss had the stealth edge over Black Panther, and he was surprised at some of the higher end feats I brought to light, stating it'd be a much closer match then he initially thought.

Impossibru always thought Sam Fisher would stomp Solid Snake, but now he's pitting him against Deathstroke, which is a BIG leap.

I even concinved Nefarious that John Marston from Red Dead Redemption would beat the Punisher. That right there is probably my greatest pride xD

Moving on to Resident Evil for now, Leon da bes. Still waiting for you to reply to our match, unless you're just at a loss for words in the presence of Leon's unmatched fighting prowess.

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#7  Edited By laflux

@VeganDiet said:

You're actually a pretty good debater from what I've seen.

That nickzambuto guy is pretty good.

SlimJ27D or something along those lines is pretty good.

That's all that I've noticed as far as good, but unnoticed debaters goes.

Edit- Forgot about Bringnit and Jashro44. Both pretty good debaters.

Thanks

@Esquire said:

I'm proud to be considered a hero in the shadows. I'd like to throw a shout out to who's been doing a fantastic job of educating people on all sorts of characters lately, and of course has brought a least a tiny bit of respect to some video game characters. Even if I'm still going to own him with Storm Shadow.

Agreed on all fronts though I'd say that nick and Jashro get at least some of the attention they deserve. Bringnit is really underrated IMO.

And as for you, man its your time to shine :-D

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#8  Edited By Esquire

@nickzambuto said:

Moving on to Resident Evil for now, Leon da bes. Still waiting for you to reply to our match, unless you're just at a loss for words in the presence of Leon's unmatched fighting prowess.

Pshh, reply up in, like, two minutes. Then you have my permission to concede.

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Why are there so many best debater threads? I mean seriously! Is there something I've missed?

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#11  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

Truth be told, Jashro has been here just a tad shorter than I have, I don't know if he would be considered necessarily new?

If Jashro counts, I'd vote for him. If not, Killemal's buddy, Hyper_God gets, mine from what I have seen of him.

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#12  Edited By renamed040924

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

Why are there so many best debater threads? I mean seriously! Is there something I've missed?

Comic Vine has reached it's teen years and is desperate for attention and approval.

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#13  Edited By jashro44

@Esquire:@VeganDiet: Thank you.

@nickzambuto: I just want to say for the record that I still believe black panther would win....

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@god_spawn said:

Truth be told, Jashro has been here just a tad shorter than I have, I don't know if he would be considered necessarily new?

If Jashro counts, I'd vote for him. If not, Killemal's buddy, Hyper_God gets, mine from what I have seen of him.

Hence why the title says underrated. He is really good BTW, and along with Shawnbaby, Strider92 and Bringnit, are the the people I turn to when I want clarification on a Spider-Man feat (and I consider myself fairly knowledgeable on said character)

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#15  Edited By renamed040924

@jashro44 said:

@nickzambuto: I just want to say for the record that I still believe black panther would win....

Not a stomp though? Surely not against a guy that takes no damage from standing at ground zero of an ICBM's launch?

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#16  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@laflux: I didn't know if you just meant like underrated and new together.

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#17  Edited By laflux

@god_spawn said:

@laflux: I didn't know if you just meant like underrated and new together.

Nah no worries

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#18  Edited By BringnIt

Thanks, gents.

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#19  Edited By Super_SoldierXII

is an up and coming veteran that has gone too underrated here IMHO as well.

is definitely another good one that tends to fly below radar. Agreed.

(yeah you!) is definitely a strong up and comer.

I think folks like , , and can no longer be considered up and comers. They've long since become well established IMHO. The next generation of ball busters hath arrived in force. :P

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#20  Edited By jashro44

@nickzambuto said:

@jashro44 said:

@nickzambuto: I just want to say for the record that I still believe black panther would win....

Not a stomp though? Surely not against a guy that takes no damage from standing at ground zero of an ICBM's launch?

Not a stomp.

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@Super_SoldierXII said:

is an up and coming veteran that has gone too underrated here IMHO as well.

is definitely another good one that tends to fly below radar. Agreed.

(yeah you!) is definitely a strong up and comer.

I think folks like , , and can no longer be considered up and comers. They've long since become well established IMHO. The next generation of ball busters hath arrived in force. :P

Yeah, Thanks I can role with this definitely. Hence why I didn't put them down.

I think though it is alot about learning from other debaters and picking things up from them on the way. For example, with you and God_Spawn consistently rushing to Wolverine's defense in threads, I gained more knowledge particularly in the said character and he's actually one of my favorites to debate with now. I know myself that I was much better than I was when I first came here and I lolz when I read my early posts and threads, particularly that abomination, the strongest character Spider-Man can beat.

Characterization marches on.

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#22  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@jashro44 said:

is the most underrated debater IMO.

He really is one of them. He gave me one of the toughest debates I have had in recent memory.

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#23  Edited By ShootingNova

@jashro44 said:

is the most underrated debater IMO.

Agreed.

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#24  Edited By Strider1992

@Super_SoldierXII: Awwww shucks. thanks for confirming i'm no longer a noobie :)! Now I know where I stand!

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#25  Edited By TrueIlluminatus

Shooting_Nova or whatever his name is. The mythology kid. He rocks pretty hard in some of the threads I've seen.

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#26  Edited By Super_SoldierXII

@Strider92 said:

@Super_SoldierXII: Awwww shucks. thanks for confirming i'm no longer a noobie :)! Now I know where I stand!

Lol.

Wasn't meant to undercut and seem condescending in any way ... was meant to underscore the obvious is all. But yes, you're officially wearing your big boy pants :P

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What's up with the "Who is the best master debater" threads lately?

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#28  Edited By Killemall

@BringnIt said:

Thanks, gents.

My possible brother from a long past, you are very under rated in comicvine :)

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#29  Edited By Killemall

@Death Certificate said:

What's up with the "Who is the best master debater" threads lately?

I think its just a thing, you see one thread you fee like creating a new one similar.

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#30  Edited By ImTheDamnBatman

*cough cough*

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@Killemall said:

@Death Certificate said:

What's up with the "Who is the best master debater" threads lately?

I think its just a thing, you see one thread you fee like creating a new one similar.

At least it's not a point taking thread =P

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#32  Edited By 80sBaby

*AHEM*

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#33  Edited By JamesKM716

Hey i'm new! and i debate. Maybe i could possibly be up there?

If not i'll just go back to the corner for my shunning.

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#34  Edited By MadeinBangladesh

I AM THE BEST DEBATER!!!

lol jk, I barely debate. I don't know crap.

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#35  Edited By ImTheDamnBatman

:(

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#36  Edited By MasterJohn

I am the most underrated, underestimated debater on Comicvine. Because when I debate on Beat My Team threads and school people who know nothing about my characters, they dance around it, still knowing nothing, and putting me in a place where you can't change stupid. Am I a hard person to debate with? Step into my field, and I most certainly am.

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#37  Edited By ShootingNova

@JamesKM716 said:

Hey i'm new! and i debate. Maybe i could possibly be up there?

If not i'll just go back to the corner for my shunning.

LOL, you should definitely be somewhere up there.

@Illuminatus said:

Shooting_Nova or whatever his name is. The mythology kid. He rocks pretty hard in some of the threads I've seen.

Thank you.

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#38  Edited By aizen2

The best debaters are still Spike, mrbobdobalina, Dex_Star, and rbysjti.

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#39  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@80sBaby:

@ShootingNova:

You're both fantastic debaters.

@JamesKM716: I don't think I've ever seen any of your debates, tbh. If you have anything good, I'd like to see.

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#40  Edited By ShootingNova

@god_spawn: Thank you as well.

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#41  Edited By TrueIlluminatus

@aizen2 said:

The best debaters are still Spike, mrbobdobalina, Dex_Star, and rbysjti.

1. An interloping fool who took pride in causing the downfall of one of this site's greatest users.

2. Who?

3. A misogynist, psychopath, and internet tough-guy all wrapped into one.

4. A moron. Through and through.

Not only are three of those people pretty awful and have caused many people great amounts of distress on this site, but the only one who was moderately good at debating was Dex, and it quickly became apparent that as he ran out of argumentative tactics, he resorted to crass language and baseless insults.

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#42  Edited By ShootingNova

@Illuminatus: It should be quite obvious, if those beings are being listed, that..... well, that guy is..... um...... yeah........

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#43  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@Illuminatus: Number 2, mrbobdalala is Spike.

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#44  Edited By MasterJohn

Why isn't "the best debater on toons/cartoons" up here?

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#45  Edited By aizen2

@god_spawn said:

@Illuminatus: Number 2, mrbobdalala is Spike.

Nah he wasn't Spike. Mrbobdobalina didn't insult people like Spike did.

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#46  Edited By aizen2

@Illuminatus said:

@aizen2 said:

The best debaters are still Spike, mrbobdobalina, Dex_Star, and rbysjti.

1. An interloping fool who took pride in causing the downfall of one of this site's greatest users.

2. Who?

3. A misogynist, psychopath, and internet tough-guy all wrapped into one.

4. A moron. Through and through.

Not only are three of those people pretty awful and have caused many people great amounts of distress on this site, but the only one who was moderately good at debating was Dex, and it quickly became apparent that as he ran out of argumentative tactics, he resorted to crass language and baseless insults.

...wow... calling people names because they had passion for debating... really immature.

Those 4 will always be the best debaters.

Dex_Star and mrbobdobalina were very well rounded when it came to debating.

Spike was a DBZ expert and always crushed his opposition with scans and facts.

Rbysjti was a Storm expert. He presented clear arguments on why Storm won against her opponent.

They were the best that this website ever had.

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#47  Edited By ShootingNova

@aizen2 said:

Nah he wasn't Spike. Mrbobdobalina didn't insult people like Spike did.

LOL, I love how you contradict yourself. If Spike actually did insult people (I know he did), then why would you list him as a "best debater".

@god_spawn said:

@Illuminatus: Number 2, mrbobdalala is Spike.

LOL, really?

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#48  Edited By aizen2

@ShootingNova said:

@aizen2 said:

Nah he wasn't Spike. Mrbobdobalina didn't insult people like Spike did.

LOL, I love how you contradict yourself. If Spike actually did insult people (I know he did), then why would you list him as a "best debater".

...how in the world does that even REMOTELY associate with his debating skills? His knowledge on certain topics? I don't even...

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#49  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@ShootingNova: I believe so, yes.

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#50  Edited By ShootingNova

@god_spawn: Alright.

@aizen2: How can you debate at all (properly) if you can do nothing but resort to unacceptably crass language, and continuously cuss. The "best debater" must actually give others enjoyable times debating with or against them, not verbally harass others as a poor excuse for "debating".