Benimaru and Dragon (Fire Force) Vs Selene and Acnologia (Fairy Tail)

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Poll Benimaru and Dragon (Fire Force) Vs Selene and Acnologia (Fairy Tail) (30 votes)

Benimaru and Dragon 73%
Selene and Acnologia 27%
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Battle Rules

  • Everyone is bloodlusted
  • Energies are equalized
  • Selene's BFR is not allowed

Battleground (Mars with a breathable atmosphere)

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Going with Selene & Acno

You can argue their similar in fire power, but the dragon due should hold a solid advantage in durability due to dragon scales and versatility. Not only this, but energies are equal, I don't see how either of the FF duo is hurting Acno who can eat, nullify or just face tank whatever they throw at him.

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Dragon potentially solos. He can no sell multi continental to possibly moon level attacks, and he is far faster.

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#4  Edited By crxckerkiid

Fire Force has every advantage but hax, and that's only Selene, I'm not even sure if they can hurt Dragon, it takes at the very least continental+ to multi continental level attacks to SCRATCH him. And Beni is the biggest output powerhouse here by a good margin, moon level highball makes this unfair.

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@yamatama:

should hold a solid advantage in durability due to dragon scales and versatility.

In terms of durability, you can say they're superior to Benimaru but Dragon, I deem them as equal. Hibachi was already well into the Multi-Continental range given the numerous claims of him causing extreme damage to the Planet, it being on the verge of destruction in a few second timeframes, but on top of that Hibachi was drawing in a dimension by the intense heat. While you could say this is a shared feat, the majority of that energy still goes to Hbachi because he was the one drawing in the most heat at the time and Benimaru was holding back the entire fight as he could have killed him from the start. In comparison to Dragon? Benimaru wasn't confident in going in solo with Dragon there:

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Meaning he was a threat, far more than Hibachi who by all means wasn't that strong in comparison to Benimaru, this being Base Dragon and not the Dragon who can use his heat to increase his scales and strength. I doubt DG's will hold an advantage in durability against Dragon, and DG's with their scales shouldn't be able to eat Benimaru or Dragon's attacks unscathed, Acnologia Magic Resistance being of a challenge for the Fire Force Duo, however. It's a pretty even match.

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@pics: Acno still has scales and his magic resistance so I still see them having a solid durability advantage plus Acno can eat (literally not the tanking kind) their attacks.

But yea it's pretty even

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Yeah no, it ain't even at all anymore lol, Dragon solos the verse. Inb4 planet level Selene.

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energies equal acno and selene wins

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The difference in art quality between the original FT and 100YQ is just sad

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#11  Edited By Morningstar999

@gatezero: They win against two moon/planet level guys with what feats?

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I'm surprised there's not a lot of threads with these characters now.

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Ft duo get shitstomped along with the verse

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@morningstar999: selene has a small planet level feat and they cant hurt acno. acno scales to selene

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@gatezero: Naaaah. Acno gets oneshotted based on his feats. Proof that Selene's durability scales to that?? And how will two statues tag two LS/FTL guys? Dragon is casually dwarfing moon level with a shockwave. Benimaru should scale to Arthur, who performed the latest feat alongside the same Dragon.

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@morningstar999: give me a character from ft and a dragon god who durability scales less then there ap. And acno takes no damage due to him being immune to there attacks and he scales to selene. and these guys are relativistic not ftl or LS. And acno scales to the gildarts speed feat and laxus dodging lasers.

if energies were not equal they loose horribly though

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@dbzfan44: Yes. In the recent chapter Dragon and Arthur caused a shockwave which dwarfed the Adolla moon.

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@dbzfan44: no but increasing the mass dozens to hundreds of times does equal ap. also she shook elentir and flooded earthland. shaking a planet requires island level force

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@dbzfan44: except she has been shown to have the power of the moon and this isnt a thing like brandish. selene shows she can use the moon the send light to attack her opponents and use moonlight when she attacks. this is also the result of her powering up which caused it to increase its size. And if you can shake the planet by powering up it mean that you can produce island level force.

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#26  Edited By Morningstar999

@gatezero:

give me a character from ft and a dragon god who durability scales less then there ap

Not up to me to prove this. If you speak of the moon feat, she didn't perform that physically to begin with, all I am seeing is Selene getting wanked into oblivion these days. And her "shaking" the worlds, is not that impressive. It does not take that much energy to shake a planet to begin with, nowhere near close to planet level.

And acno takes no damage due to him being immune to there attacks and he scales to selene.

Nice non-sensical case of No Limit Fallacy you've got here mate. No, he won't tank a planet level punch from "x" dude, just cuz he is invulnerable to any magic attack besides Dragon Slayer Magic in Fairy Tail. We go by the best he has taken, not assumptions.

and these guys are relativistic not ftl or LS. And acno scales to the gildarts speed feat and laxus dodging lasers.

No proof the lasers were light speed, a laser is not light speed unless it is stated to be actually light speed, or has the properties of natural light. Acnologia and Selene are sub relativistic at best.

if energies were not equal they loose horribly though

They get murderstomped without and with equalized energies. They are:

•Too slow;

•Too weak;

•Not durable enough.

Aka, Dragon blitzes and two shots.

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#28  Edited By Morningstar999

@dbzfan44:

Here's the feat if you are interested. Scans are a bit hard to see though.

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Either Benimaru or Dragon solos all of the FT verse

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Benimaru existing could probably kill them. Putting Dragon alongside Benimaru makes this spite

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@morningstar999: um it is. you were the one who claimed her durability does not scale to this. so it is up to you to prove this . which there is no evidence for anyways. she powered up and caused to moon to increase in mass dozens to hundreds of times and her power has shown she can use the moon for her attacks and power. And i never brought up shaking the planet. you like so many on CV simply say wank when a character performs a feat and it is used in debates. you cant claim wank and then proceed to not explain how.

except if energies are equal it is not a no limit fallacy to say there attacks would not work due to him being immune to all magic besides neo eclipse and ds magic. it would be a no limit fallacy to say someone like dr.strange looses to acno due to acno being immune to magic without energy equalized.

and it does. for one wahl is a alchemist and uses nothing but natural elements when he attacks and all his attacks in someway shape of form shown to be science based. He creates missles to fight laxus out of copper and zinc creates a railgun which powers laxus up. besides etherion. which even that has magic confinement fusion and says it is magnetic confinement fusion but instead magic is holding the plasma. here

as for gildarts. it is called light does not show any curvature. and shows nothing that can be said to not be actual light. and gajeel during battle of ft arc has to sub rel feats and he can be blitz by mid tiers of the series. they are relativistic at best since acno moved so fast august couldn't. someone who scales to gildarts and jellal who blitzed racer even while he was being slowed down by racers magic.

no they dont acno takes zero damage

they have the speed and and speed.

and no feats show them to have durability lower then there ap.

and nope

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@dbzfan44: uh no thats not how that works. if she has shown to be able to use properties of the moon like the light to bfr and gets her power from the moon it does not mean we automatically count it out. from what we know so far nothing points to it just being hax related. and the island was not me scaling selene i was just saying shaking the planet requires at least island level force thats all.

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increasing the mass of an objected that you manipulated does equal ap. that is like saying increasing the size of an island by the power of ground manipulation doesn't equal ap. the only thing shown to be hax is bfr and that is it. she is shown to be able to move the moon and nothing says she is doing it with some sort of hax. she is shown to get serious power up and the moon begins to increase just like her power is destroying elentir. except traveling back in time just requires time manipulation does not require you too be 4-d this made zero sense.

do you not understand that you brought up shaking the planet and stated shaking =/= Ap and i explained you shake a planet it means you have at least island level ap. stop bringing this up because it is irrelevant and your the only one trying to argue this

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@dbzfan44: my bad meant to tag you

increasing the mass of an objected that you manipulated does equal ap. that is like saying increasing the size of an island by the power of ground manipulation doesn't equal ap. the only thing shown to be hax is bfr and that is it. she is shown to be able to move the moon and nothing says she is doing it with some sort of hax. she is shown to get serious power up and the moon begins to increase just like her power is destroying elentir. except traveling back in time just requires time manipulation does not require you too be 4-d this made zero sense.

do you not understand that you brought up shaking the planet and stated shaking =/= Ap and i explained you shake a planet it means you have at least island level ap. stop bringing this up because it is irrelevant and your the only one trying to argue this

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@gatezero:

increasing the mass of an objected that you manipulated does equal ap. that is like saying increasing the size of an island by the power of ground manipulation doesn't equal ap.

How do you even quantify the energy needed to increase mass out of thin air

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Either Benimaru or Dragon solos all of the FT verse

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Dragon honestly solos.

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Dragon blitz and one shots the entire FT verse

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@yamatama said:

@pics: Acno still has scales and his magic resistance so I still see them having a solid durability advantage plus Acno can eat (literally not the tanking kind) their attacks.

But yea it's pretty even

This also didn't age well at all lmao.

Ot: Any of the FF duo solo the FT duo.