Ben Tennyson(Ben10) VS. Superman

Superman prime does not get hurt by magic anybody that reads the real canon of superman would know this. The cartoons and movies do not count cause they are not canon only the comic books are.

BEN10 

" @SilverGalford: I'm not, but Gwen also has an ability to cast Magical Spells. I''ve said I know Superman would win, I was answering another users question as to why yet another assumed Gwen could win. Superman has speed, and gwen has no experience with magic. And I'm answering your question about your theory about superman resisitng magic, which is wrong,magic affects him. Which is why he cut his finger just touching wonder womans sword, had he throat slit by her tiara,  been mentioned and shown during his battles with etrigan, Blaze,Satanus, Mr.Z, Faust, demons who shredded supermans skin,   Of course there's several time's he has resisited magic, like being on a island that exploded due to magic,  and  he's handled Etrigans flames. It's all really up to the writer of the story, but the majority of the time he's injured by magic, that goes for anything with a mystical nature, like Gwens spells, Superman just usually beats magic users due to superior powers, and straetegy and a little bit of luck and help.  "

yes and i remember at 1 time he even inhaled  hellfire

 I'm all for helping Ben Tennyson out.  After all, he's just an amateur superhero, but I think he still has a shot in this fight.  Here's my argument:

1. It's impossible that Superman would just randomly attack the kid.  Ben WILL have time to work his watch. 
2. If they happen to possess kryptonite and Kevin fully absorbed it, then I'm pretty sure Superman would be screwed. 
3. Millions and millions of aliens and not one of them as equally stronger or stronger than Superman? I doubt. 
4.  Ben 10 has the DNA of every alien from every single planet in the galaxy.  Superman's should be in there. 
5.  Gwen can cast a spell to summon kyrptonite or make it appear.
6. Cool, Superman can move planets.  Ben defeated aliens who have conquered and destroyed dozens of them.  There's probably an alien in his watch that can move planets too. 
7. If we drop some of the rules in the show, Professor Paradox and Gwen in her full anodite form can easily defeat Superman. 
8. Grandpa Max can whip up some crazy ass weapon that can take Superman down.  The Plumbers always find a way. 
9. Jetray can go into hyperspace and fly at the speed of light too.  No one knew that? Oh ok. 
10. What about Swampfire? Ben can spray sleeping gas in that transformation.  He also survived a methane explosion. 
11. If Alien X is activated, then of course Superman is screwed.  It can happen. 
12. Ben can transform into NRG.  This alien is made out of pure radioactive energy and it cannot be touched. 
 
In my opinion, if you look at the topic in further detail, Ben can at least HURT Superman with the help of his friends and family and watch.  Of course Superman has the bigger advantage, but Ben has a chance.

Superman

Gwen doesn't even use Magic anymore, she did when she was younger, but she is older now, she uses her alien abilities

1. It's impossible that Superman would just randomly attack the kid.  Ben WILL have time to work his watch. 

2. If they happen to possess kryptonite and Kevin fully absorbed it, then I'm pretty sure Superman would be screwed. 

3. Millions and millions of aliens and not one of them as equally stronger or stronger than Superman? I doubt. 

4.  Ben 10 has the DNA of every alien from every single planet in the galaxy.  Superman's should be in there. 

5.  Gwen can cast a spell to summon kyrptonite or make it appear.

6. Cool, Superman can move planets.  Ben defeated aliens who have conquered and destroyed dozens of them.  There's probably an alien in his watch that can move planets too. 

7. If we drop some of the rules in the show, Professor Paradox and Gwen in her full anodite form can easily defeat Superman.

8. Grandpa Max can whip up some crazy ass weapon that can take Superman down.  The Plumbers always find a way. 

9. Jetray can go into hyperspace and fly at the speed of light too.  No one knew that? Oh ok. 

10. What about Swampfire? Ben can spray sleeping gas in that transformation.  He also survived a methane explosion. 

11. If Alien X is activated, then of course Superman is screwed.  It can happen. 

" I'm all for helping Ben Tennyson out.  After all, he's just an amateur superhero, but I think he still has a shot in this fight.  Here's my argument:1. It's impossible that Superman would just randomly attack the kid.  Ben WILL have time to work his watch. 2. If they happen to possess kryptonite and Kevin fully absorbed it, then I'm pretty sure Superman would be screwed. 3. Millions and millions of aliens and not one of them as equally stronger or stronger than Superman? I doubt. 4.  Ben 10 has the DNA of every alien from every single planet in the galaxy.  Superman's should be in there. 5.  Gwen can cast a spell to summon kyrptonite or make it appear.6. Cool, Superman can move planets.  Ben defeated aliens who have conquered and destroyed dozens of them.  There's probably an alien in his watch that can move planets too. 7. If we drop some of the rules in the show, Professor Paradox and Gwen in her full anodite form can easily defeat Superman. 8. Grandpa Max can whip up some crazy ass weapon that can take Superman down.  The Plumbers always find a way. 9. Jetray can go into hyperspace and fly at the speed of light too.  No one knew that? Oh ok. 10. What about Swampfire? Ben can spray sleeping gas in that transformation.  He also survived a methane explosion. 11. If Alien X is activated, then of course Superman is screwed.  It can happen. 12. Ben can transform into NRG.  This alien is made out of pure radioactive energy and it cannot be touched.  In my opinion, if you look at the topic in further detail, Ben can at least HURT Superman with the help of his friends and family and watch.  Of course Superman has the bigger advantage, but Ben has a chance. "

Whatever lol. 
 
Well everybody's assuming that Ben can get creamed in any of his alien transformations.  How do you even know the strength of Humungousaur/Ultimate Humungousaur compared with Superman's?  They can be evenly matched.  Couldn't Way Big just pick up Superman in one hand and squeeze?  And NRG, which is an untouchable alien made out of pure radiation energy.  How can Superman stop that one?  What if the two figures controlling Alien X DID manage to listen to Ben?  So many choices of aliens.  I still don't think this battle is all Superman's.

"Whatever lol.  Well everybody's assuming that Ben can get creamed in any of his alien transformations.  How do you even know the strength of Humungousaur/Ultimate Humungousaur compared with Superman's?  They can be evenly matched.  Couldn't Way Big just pick up Superman in one hand and squeeze?  And NRG, which is an untouchable alien made out of pure radiation energy.  How can Superman stop that one?  What if the two figures controlling Alien X DID manage to listen to Ben?  So many choices of aliens.  I still don't think this battle is all Superman's. "

I think Ben has a chance.  There's plenty of aliens to choose from in his watch plus their ultimate form which makes him even more powerful.  He has a DNA sample of every single alien in the galaxy.   
10 million different, unique, powerful alien forms vs. one man of steel. 

Can ben absorb kryptonian DNA?

" Whatever lol.  Well everybody's assuming that Ben can get creamed in any of his alien transformations.  How do you even know the strength of Humungousaur/Ultimate Humungousaur compared with Superman's?  They can be evenly matched.  Couldn't Way Big just pick up Superman in one hand and squeeze?  And NRG, which is an untouchable alien made out of pure radiation energy.  How can Superman stop that one?  What if the two figures controlling Alien X DID manage to listen to Ben?  So many choices of aliens.  I still don't think this battle is all Superman's. "

I like to add we are using canon superman in other words the movies and cartoons do not count only the comic books.

" @Kenny94:     here is what I say    

 1. this is true but we are saying if they went up to each other and say let fight not superman is just flying around and ben say hey I am going to use my watch and say hey superman lets fight  

 2.the strongest version of superman called superman prime can fly in a field of kryptonite and not be hurt or bothered by it.   

 3.if ben did have the type of alien that superman is in his watch it only be what superman is when he first came to earth not superman prime level he gained that power.   

 4.this is true but it may not be the superman per say but the same race but again not the same level as superman prime   

 5.where is gwen casting a spell to make a type of mater appear be it iron, steel, or other kinds of stuff.   

 6.this is true but none of the aliens that ben has beat was able to use his physcal strenth to move a planet much less destroy one.   

 7.nope superman prime is not affected by magic and he can controle time and space as well.   

 8.superman prime can beat any weapon a plumber  can come up with he can make it not be in this world any more to much more.   

 9.yea but superman goes 4 times the speed of light faster than hyperspace.   

 10.methane explsion would not even bother superman ether superman prime is also not bothered by sleeping gas ether.   

 11.again superman prime can beat alien x cause he can do everything alien x can do and more.   

 12.radioactive energy is nothing superman can swim in the sun which is full of radioactive energy.   the way I see it ben loses. "  

Well, I don't think ben could win[unless he got supermans, dna, and put it in]"  here is a tid bit of help, his fastest alien[ not even in ultra form] " was able to fly across I think it was a galaxy, in about 10 minutes

wouldn't it be crazy if Ben has a kryptonian in his watch and then turns it into ultimate form haha... but unless hes got that he loses because eve if he does have a regular kryptonian hell still lose because supes has experience. 

Also, yes gwen uses magic, and in the new power she has stopped, but she stilll can use magic

Superman Wins

" Superman wins easy... How did this get so long?  Ben 10 is a awsome show, I love the character, and have seen the whole of it... But no, he stands not chance here without pulling some stupid plot device out to give Ben a edge. "

Superman wins like I said superman prime or superman 1 million as some people know him as is the best version of superman. He is faster, stronger, and has way more powers than any of ben's alien even if ben used alien x superman prime can do all alien x can and more. It is clear no matter how you look at this superman wins goku has a better chance at winning in a fight with superman why cause goku was based off superman but goku would lose to superman but he has a better shot than ben thats for sure.

 Bumped for no reason at all.

Superman rips the band off before he can think

ben 10 could get lucky enough to get the omnitrix to scan supe's DNA but other than that: 
 
   

Supes easily.

Superman Stomps! BFR for the kill.

ok someone mentioned superman prime. he didnt say ben 10 vs superman prime. he said ben 10 vs superman. that means the current version of superman from one comic series. not every version that conviently wins the battle. we could just use ultimate ben since he is from the current future of ben ten ultimate. (ultimate ben can use all the alien powers while remaining in his ben form) but of course we arent gonna us him because this is superman vs ben 10 not future ben 10. ok well now that thats over , i wont say who wins but i'll toss in some lesser known things about ben 10. as jet ray he go warp speed brainstorm is psychic (superman has a weakness against psy power.) ghost freak is a power he can still access. (superman is has no way of resisting ghost possession) ben 10's watch can scan alien life forms , (mainly endangered rare life ) so there is a chance that ben could become a kryptonian. and one final thing, superman would rarely strike first if he was fighting a child . he often faces people who have no hope of beating him so he tends to take it easy on the enemy at first. again not saying ben would win just saying its never as clear cut as it seems

now gwen is all powerfull magical being, if she went full tilt superman would be down for the count. not to mention if kevin absorbed sueprman's energy(he rarely absorbs energy because it drives him wild). superman is not imortal , and superstrength is not as unbeatable as you would think. the only reason he wins so often is because hes the hero and the main cover boy of dc comics

@captain_geedo said:

ok someone mentioned superman prime. he didnt say ben 10 vs superman prime. he said ben 10 vs superman. that means the current version of superman from one comic series. not every version that conviently wins the battle. we could just use ultimate ben since he is from the current future of ben ten ultimate. (ultimate ben can use all the alien powers while remaining in his ben form) but of course we arent gonna us him because this is superman vs ben 10 not future ben 10. ok well now that thats over , i wont say who wins but i'll toss in some lesser known things about ben 10. as jet ray he go warp speed brainstorm is psychic (superman has a weakness against psy power.) ghost freak is a power he can still access. (superman is has no way of resisting ghost possession) ben 10's watch can scan alien life forms , (mainly endangered rare life ) so there is a chance that ben could become a kryptonian. and one final thing, superman would rarely strike first if he was fighting a child . he often faces people who have no hope of beating him so he tends to take it easy on the enemy at first. again not saying ben would win just saying its never as clear cut as it seems

Thing is, before Ben can even do anything, Supes takes him out. There's no way a teenage boy like Ben has the reaction time to hit his Omnitrix before Superman hits him.

Superman would beat Ben as easy as he'd beat any feeble 10 year old kid .

What's the point of this thread ?

Ben could own Superman.

Here are ways he could beat him

1. Way Big- This is an alien that is bigger than the Empire State Building, Run Faster than the Flash, and shoot Cosmic Rays.(Like Galactus) Also he can create cosmic storms. This alien held its own against 'God' from another dimension.

2. Alein X- He can do anything but he has to vote.

3. Clockwork- He could wipe Superman from time and space itself.

4. Ghostfreak- He can take over his body. And kill him. Plain and simple.

Now there are Combos. If he used combinations and quick switches. Superman will not know what hit him. (Ex. He could use run super fast using XLR8 then quickly switch to Armodrillo and slam him while going 100's of miles an hour. He could uses NRG and cover him with lava then change into Articguana and Freeze the laza, etc......)

Ben has proven himself time and time again of his power. He has saved the whole entire universe many times. He has fought Vilgax (Who is basically his version of Darksied) Kevin (His version of Parasite) Albedo (His version of Zod), etc.....

Ben could take Superman if he wanted to. Plain and simple. Also he could get Kryptonian DNA if he wanted to. Just Saiyan.

@UltimatePeyton said:

Ben could own Superman.

Here are ways he could beat him

1. Way Big- This is an alien that is bigger than the Empire State Building, Run Faster than the Flash, and shoot Cosmic Rays.(Like Galactus) Also he can create cosmic storms. This alien held its own against 'God' from another dimension.

2. Alein X- He can do anything but he has to vote.

3. Clockwork- He could wipe Superman from time and space itself.

4. Ghostfreak- He can take over his body. And kill him. Plain and simple.

Now there are Combos. If he used combinations and quick switches. Superman will not know what hit him. (Ex. He could use run super fast using XLR8 then quickly switch to Armodrillo and slam him while going 100's of miles an hour. He could uses NRG and cover him with lava then change into Articguana and Freeze the laza, etc......)

Ben has proven himself time and time again of his power. He has saved the whole entire universe many times. He has fought Vilgax (Who is basically his version of Darksied) Kevin (His version of Parasite) Albedo (His version of Zod), etc.....

Ben could take Superman if he wanted to. Plain and simple. Also he could get Kryptonian DNA if he wanted to. Just Saiyan.

I see what you did there

But yeah, if he could scan real quick then he might have a change

This is a mismatch and I cannot believe this threads been here and not locked ever since I've been here.

Superman easily wins. Superman would laugh and move on and not even mess with the poor kid.

The only way I see this as a victory for Ben is since Superman is Superman he won't just outright attack a kid. This gives time for omnitrix to scan superman's DNA which been then transforms into his own version of a Kryptonian. Next he becomes the "ultimate" form of a Kryptonian and maybe that'll help him win. I still give it to Supes 9/10 times though