Ben Solo (Rise of Kylo Ren) run Inquisitors gauntlet

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Round 1: Fifth Brother

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Round 2: Eighth Brother

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Round 3: Seventh Sister

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Round 4: Second Sister

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Round 5: Grand Inquisitor

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- Ben as of Rise of Kylo Ren

- In character

- Full Healing and rest between the fights

- Fight takes place on Kashyyyk

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#8  Edited By AlexTheBoss

Definitely beats the first three rounds. The last two are harder to call. Ben is definitely more powerful, but he has never dealt with anybody of their skill with double sided spinning lightsabers. Considering Ben was holding back and still easily beat the three jedi who were actually trying to beat him, I would say Ben should clear.

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@alextheboss: I mean those Jedi Ben was fighting weren't that spectacular, in fact it seems to say that they had their own strengths and some not even combatant except for 1 of them.

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Should really only have issues with the last two due to their unfamiliar weapons and saber skill, but his raw power in the force is way beyond theirs. He collapsed a massive portion of the Old Jedi temple and Tked that freighter along with Rey. He could probably just ragdoll them

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@mossbeard: "and Tked that freighter along with Rey."

This is Ben as of Rise of Kylo Ren.

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@wolfrazer: I agree, but like I said, Kylo didn't want to fight, and accidentally killed one while trying to save the other one. He was completely out of their league.

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Definitely beats the first three rounds. The last two are harder to call. Ben is definitely more powerful, but he has never deal with anybody of their skill with double sided spinning lightsabers. Considering Ben was holding back and still easily beat the three jedi who were actually trying to beat him, I would say Ben should clear.

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Probably doesn't make it past 1 in a pure fight, though he could win through power.

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Ben dies at round 1 lol.

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Has trouble with the last 2 but probably clears.

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Clears easily.

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Ben can make it to the second sister but he hard stops at the Grand inquisitor.

Both The Second Sister and the GI are able to take down Jedi Masters. GI especially was able to do this, even before he started his dark side training and got more powerful in the dark side.

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#28  Edited By Grinningf0x

@mygod000: Second Sister also lost to Cal and GI lost to Kanan

Saying that they beat Masters doesn’t mean much

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@mygod000: Second Sister also lost to Cal and GI lost to Kanan

Saying that they beat Masters doesn’t mean much

Cal is the main character in Fallen order so ofc second sister lost to him at the end. GL lost to Rage Amp Kanan and after he started training more because he got embarrassed by the GI

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@mygod000: Cal being the MC is a pretty weak argument frankly. All Characters are ultimately beholden to the narrative for sure but what occurred in the narrative still needs to be addressed .

The 2nd Sister Lost and that needs to be taken into account

GI losing to Canaan rage amped or not needs to be taken into account

Ben has better feats than either of the guys then the Agents of the Inquisition fought so why does it matter at all?

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@mygod000: Cal being the MC is a pretty weak argument frankly. All Characters are ultimately beholden to the narrative for sure but what occurred in the narrative still needs to be addressed .

The 2nd Sister Lost and that needs to be taken into account

GI losing to Canaan rage amped or not needs to be taken into account

Ben has better feats than either of the guys then the Agents of the Inquisition fought so why does it matter at all?

it the truth. Cal also hindered the second Sister as well go watch the end of that duel when they were in blade lock he talked about her being hurt in the past so...she was clearly emotionally unstable at that point and unbalance.

I thin Ben could make it to the GI but then stops their because the GI is easily master tier Jedi.

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Even at this point, Ben has shown far greater TK feats than any Inquisitor, he's got Skywalker potential and has been trained for as long as RotS Anakin was. He clears easily.

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Ben's favorite move is abusing his monstrous telekinesis, no Inquisitor survives getting launched into the distance and having a building collapsed on their heads. I doubt any of them have better dueling feats than fighting three Jedi trained by Luke Skywalker for their entire lives while trying not to hurt them.

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@alphaq said:

Ben's favorite move is abusing his monstrous telekinesis, no Inquisitor survives getting launched into the distance and having a building collapsed on their heads. I doubt any of them have better dueling feats than fighting three Jedi trained by Luke Skywalker for their entire lives while trying not to hurt them.

So it safe to say those Jedi Sucked then...other wise Show me feats of these Jedi trained by Luke.

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The GI>>These two inquisitors together.

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#38  Edited By xanadu253

@mygod000: that feats gotten brought up a couple times in the past couple days, it says nothing lol. They aren't levitating that temple like you want to imply, they literally just activated it. Lifting a structure like that is out of Palpatine himself's pay grade let alone them two and the Grand Inquisitor. Ben is clearing the grand inquisitor and I'd like to say it isn't close.

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@mygod000: that feats gotten brought up a couple times in the past couple days, it says nothing lol. They aren't levitating that temple like you want to imply, they literally just activated it. Lifting a structure like that is out of Palpatine himself's pay grade let alone them two and the Grand Inquisitor. Ben is clearing the grand inquisitor and I'd like to say it isn't close.

I mean if you use Palpatine from ROTS and shown feats yes it would be, How ever we know that with new Canon ROTS Sidious can lift 10,000 star destroyers.

also, Vader is more powerful than ROTS Sidious sidious.

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@mygod000: Palpatine didn’t literally lift those Star destroyers. It was symbolic, there isn’t anything indicating they didn’t just fly up because they were activated. Even then it was ROS Palpatine, people peddling that ROS Palpatine was weaker in the force than even ROTS Palpatine is stupid. If you want to claim he was “weaker” it was because he was literally on permanent life support, he was bodily weaker but stronger in the force than ever. Vader isn’t really relevant when it comes to this thread anyway.

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@mygod000: Palpatine didn’t literally lift those Star destroyers. It was symbolic, there isn’t anything indicating they didn’t just fly up because they were activated. Even then it was ROS Palpatine, people peddling that ROS Palpatine was weaker in the force than even ROTS Palpatine is stupid. If you want to claim he was “weaker” it was because he was literally on permanent life support, he was bodily weaker but stronger in the force than ever. Vader isn’t really relevant when it comes to this thread anyway.

He did lift the star destroyers as they were coming up from feet of ice, we see him use the force then it cuts to the star destroyers.

He said he was weaker before he absorbed the Dyad. he made no distinction if he was weaker in the force or not he said he was weaker period.

I think you are selling the GI short here, And I asked what are the feats of these Jedi Kylo beat are.

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#44  Edited By xanadu253

@mygod000: To your first point, there is no indication he is using the force. To your second point he NEVER states he’s weaker, the weaker thing comes from something people asked Matt Martin. Palpatine getting weaker in the force just because he isn’t bodily capable doesn’t fit with the rules established in Star Wars. Your bodies capability /= becoming weaker in the force. Third, the three Jedi were introduced in this run so they can’t have that many feats, but given that they were all (including Ben) trained by Luke for 13 years and one of them is stated to be very combat oriented (but still always behind Ben) I think it’s fair to say they wouldn’t just be fodder otherwise Luke would be a pretty incompetent teacher and I highly doubt that’s the case in canon.

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@mygod000: To your first point, there is no indication he is using the force. To your second point he NEVER states he’s weaker, the weaker thing comes from something people asked Matt Martin. Palpatine getting weaker in the force just because he isn’t bodily capable doesn’t fit with the rules established in Star Wars. Your bodies capability /= becoming weaker in the force. Third, the three Jedi were introduced in this run so they can’t have that many feats, but given that they were all (including Ben) trained by Luke for 13 years and one of them is stated to be very combat oriented (but still always behind Ben) I think it’s fair to say they wouldn’t just be fodder otherwise Luke would be a pretty incompetent teacher and I highly doubt that’s the case in canon.

why not? it not the first time Luke failed...He failed Vader. Luke has limited training as a Jedi anyways.

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@mygod000: he’s literally one of the greatest duelist ever but can’t train a couple students to competency ??

What kind of sense does that make?

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@mygod000: he’s literally one of the greatest duelist ever but can’t train a couple students to competency ??

What kind of sense does that make?

Just because he trained them doesn't mean they are Master tier...While the GI is in fact a Master tier duelist.

I asked you for feats for these Jedi that Kylo beat, instead of just assuming "Oh my Gosh, Luke Trained them so they must be above Master level"

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Yoda trained younglings, doesn't make them high-tier. Fact is, we don't know the quality of Luke's limited training, and the fact that his star pupil, Kylo, is a visibly poor duelist, does not speak in favour of the canon NJO holding a candle to their prequel counterparts .