Ben Kenobi vs Supreme Leader Snoke

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Poll Ben Kenobi vs Supreme Leader Snoke (47 votes)

Ben Kenobi 49%
Supreme Leader Snoke 51%

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  • Ben Kenobi as of ANH, Snoke as of TLJ
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  • In Character
  • Standard Win Conditions

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^ what Snoke does to Ben.
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#3 owie  Moderator

Ha, so many variables, including whether you believe Kenobi was stronger or weaker after his time on Tatooine.

I'm inclined to say Snoke wins through the Force, especially TK, but maybe a greater overall Force mastery/understanding, given his unusual powers. I think Ben could deal with the Force lightning though. I don't remember what TK feats old Ben may have outside the movies.

But maybe Ben gains the ultimate win by becoming more powerful in the Force once he is struck down?

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Snoke dominates with Force TK. Age clearly had a effect on Kenobi's ability to duel as well as his stamina. Granted, you could argue he was stronger in terms of skill or whatnot, but I wouldn't say he could beat Snoke, nor would it be a very close fight.

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#5  Edited By eslay03

Yeah, I don’t really see how Kenobi gets close enough to harm Snoke with a lightsaber, and he certainly isn’t beating him in any sort of “force battle”.

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Kenobi is definitely still powerful, but snoke wins this probably easily

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Snoke wins.

Technically, all Ben has to do is close to melee distance and Snoke is done (considering he has no dueling or physical feats to his name as far as I know?). However, Canon Obi just doesnt have the raw power to compete with Snoke's raw power so he gets ragdolled

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Bump, poll results and actual answers seem to be very different.

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Snoke

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Snoke is more powerful, but I think people are underestimating Kenobi. Vader didn't ragdoll him and was very cautious when fighting him and he three shot Maul. I would still probably back Snoke, but if Kenobi holds his ground with his force defense, he can close the distance and cut Snoke down.

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Snoke is more powerful, but I think people are underestimating Kenobi. Vader didn't ragdoll him and was very cautious when fighting him and he three shot Maul. I would still probably back Snoke, but if Kenobi holds his ground with his force defense, he can close the distance and cut Snoke down.

This.

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#12  Edited By Redshift_Bacon

Personally I believe that Kenobi grew in the Force but declined in Sabers. Unfortunately ffor Snoke, if Vader cannot ragdoll Kenobi, neither cant either, and his Lightsaber can counter virtually anything else. Kenobi should win near every time. Snoke doesnt have the feats against Masters to pull this off.

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Soresu's defense is irrelevant against higher power in the force Soresu be useful only in a lightsaber duel

Snoke wins

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@professorrespect: now I am not the biggest Star Wars person out there Average fan so I don’t get why Snoke is seen that powerful he got cut in half and did not really do anything again I am a average fan so I don’t know the lore or if he done anything out side the movies beside getting cut in half

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@professorrespect: now I am not the biggest Star Wars person out there Average fan so I don’t get why Snoke is seen that powerful he got cut in half and did not really do anything again I am a average fan so I don’t know the lore or if he done anything out side the movies beside getting cut in half

Snoke's considered really powerful because of his mega good connection to the force: as in, being able to casually ragdoll multiple talented force users with ease and dominate them. He only lost because he was stupid enough to let them tag him.

By implication, he should be pretty up there.

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Snoke wins

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@subline said:

Bump, poll results and actual answers seem to be very different.

Since the dawn of times

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Force users are glass cannons they can be overpowers in the use of force but they are still very fragile.

In a specific context a weak character can kill a sith lord or a powerful jedi and If a character is hit by a lightsaber without any form of defense he will probably be killed or badly injured or have some limb torn out.

In a Star wars thread the most powerful will probably be the favorite but it is not a rule. The opponent can overcome this disadvantage in power using skill, gadges (bounty hunters do it) and strategy for example Grieovus defeats jedis by taking advantage of his cybernetic body and forcing a duel and not allowing the jedi to abuse the force.

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@drunkhc said:

Force users are glass cannons they can be overpowers in the use of force but they are still very fragile.

In a specific context a weak character can kill a sith lord or a powerful jedi and If a character is hit by a lightsaber without any form of defense he will probably be killed or badly injured or have some limb torn out.

In a Star wars thread the most powerful will probably be the favorite but it is not a rule. The opponent can overcome this disadvantage in power using skill, gadges (bounty hunters do it) and strategy for example Grieovus defeats jedis by taking advantage of his cybernetic body and forcing a duel and not allowing the jedi to abuse the force.

With Legends, that's not really the case, but with canon, yeah.

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Not all EU works the characters are overpowers and Legends is basically another verse so much that threads of EU + canon composite characters do not work due to contradictions

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Smoke, while a powerful force user, isn't a fighter. He could dominate anyone not a jedi counsel member level. Kenobi finds a way around the force lighting and bisects him again.

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#25  Edited By DrunkHC

It's not simple to avoid Snoke's powers

Snoke in the same league as Sidious

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Snoke lighting

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it is amazing how difficult it is for me to argue in favor of Snoke, Rey and Kylo I really don't like these characters. I want to write that Obi wan stomp ....

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Snoke was able to casually overpower a Dyad-amped Ben and Rey (both of whom even as of TLJ have some of the best raw force feats in canon) and has been stated to be in the same league of force prowess as Sideous. I don't see why he doesn't just ragdoll Kenobi and be done with it.

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Snoke.

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Due to my Vader favouritism I am obligated to chose Ben

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But logic dictates that Snoke wins

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Vader would stomp Snoke - something we didn't see him do on Obi-Wan

Ben wins

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Snoke doesn't have a lightsaber, but he still wins in a difficult fight.

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Ben Kenobi ragdoll him

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Bump

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Snoke ragdolls with force

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@uhu123 said:

Ben wins via scaling to Vader, Snoke being Sidious level has been retconned.

I mean , all he did was block a few hits and do a bit of offense which all were easily blocked by Vader .