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Piccolo get stomped by either Broly or Gogeta as for Final Gohan he probably beat Broly but lose to Gogeta
Team 2. Piccolo is stated to only to be equal to Goku in this movie which has confirmed to have ignored the manga and is only a sequel to Broly meaning he doesn't have UI and just has SSB so he gets stomped. Gohan can maybe beat Broly based off of statements but I doubt he's beating Gogeta
Piccolo is dying Quick and easy, SSJ Broly Beat Both Goku and Vegeta working together in their SSB forms, Piccolo wouldn't touch FP Broly at all. Cell Max if Completed would've been "a superhuman not even Broly could defeat", Either way gohan stomped him out so Gogeta is all that's left and Gogeta has Wayyy too much firepower under his belt. Team 2 can probably Muster Up something.
Gohan>=Gogeta>Broly>Piccolo
Piccolo was massively above the Gammas who are SSB tier, to the point that he tanked their hits without flinching. Piccolo is above SSJ Broly slightly but not Full Power Broly and would decisively lose.
Gohan is pretty close to Gogeta, considering he should be quite a lot above Broly. Considering we have statements calling Gohan the strongest main character, that would put him slightly above Granolah arc MUI and Ultra Ego. I would probably put Gogeta around their power so slightly below Gohan, just because of the time that's passed since DBS Broly.
Overall I think I'd give it to the 2. Piccolo can't win against Broly and would be dominated by Gogeta. Gohan could likely stalemate Gogeta (slightly more power but less skill than Gogeta) and maybe beat him after a prolonged fight, but can't beat him AND Broly.
@sdadddd: no that would have been the case if he was activated prematurely otherwise Broly is still stronger
@scoobthedude: except Dr Hedo stated his body was finished and he only needed to install the mind control program to control Cell Max.
Toriyama statement was Cell Max would’ve become a SuperHuman even Broly wouldn’t be able to defeat If he was activated as planned. We know Cell Max has a huge weakness in his head which even Gotenks could damage so Broly being able to defeat “Incomplete” Cell Max is still possible while still being weaker.
Piccolo loses to either, but Gohan beats Broly.
With Gogeta it depends, it's between him and Gohan.
he doesn't. the cell max > broly statement is in reference to a completed cell max one, not the one gohan defeated.
Piccolo loses to either, but Gohan beats Broly.
With Gogeta it depends, it's between him and Gohan.
he doesn't. the cell max > broly statement is in reference to a completed cell max one, not the one gohan defeated.
Cell max himself was already completed and only the brain control was missing
Cell wasn’t completed, he’s not stronger than Broly. Gogeta one shots both
I'll just repeat myself :
Cell max himself was already completed and only the brain control was missing
@omega7373663: which means he wasn’t complete, AT stated he was woken early and thus wasn’t at full power
@thewatcherking: gogeta isnt one shotting Gohan wtf lol
@thewatcherking: AK stated that he was forcibly activated and became an uncontrollable monster nothing about getting weaker.
@sdadddd: it’s not about getting weaker it’s about reaching his maximum potential, which he didn’t cause he awoken early.
Base Gogeta is greater than SSB saiyans, they don’t have a prayer.
Sweet Christmas!! I haven't seen anything Dragon Ball after ToP and was genuinely curious about this matchup. How are both sides of the argument claiming completely opposite "facts" about team 1. Are there sources for either argument, or are they both headcanon? How am I supposed to know who wins? lol!
@thewatcherking: Dr Hedo said Cell Maxs body was finished he only needed the mind control program so that he wouldn't be an uncontrollable monster. He reached his maximum potential in terms of raw power. Cell Max has a huge weakness which is how Broly can defeat him despite being weaker and it fits perfectly with toriyama’s statement. A complete Cell Max would have Hedo’s( or whoevers controlling him) intelligence so his Weak spot would almost be nullified.
So, is "Beast Gohan" his blanco transformation's official name? What are the mechanics behind it? Is it like ultra instinct, or a new Super Saiyan level?
It's just a huge power up
@sdadddd: ki is composite of courage, vigor, and right mindedness. In a mindless state he wouldn’t have the same power as he has with the capacity for courage vigor and being in the right state of mind. Which backs up the AT statement implying he isn’t at full power, note I haven’t actually seen but a few scenes from the movie so maybe my opinion will change but right now Akira’s statement outright says he isn’t as strong as he would’ve been.
@thewatcherking: He isn’t mindless as in the movie he show’s some level of intelligence and also how does getting mind controlled by someone who can’t even use ki mean he will be able to project it and use it better. Again HE WAS originally supposed to be mind controlled he would be like a robot carrying out orders and he doesn’t magically get a mind he already has one. And no this is what Toriyama say’s “ If Cell Max had been completed, he would’ve been a superhuman even Broly couldn’t defeat, but since he was forcibly activated he became an uncontrollable monster.” Nothing about getting weaker only about being an uncontrollable monster. Btw even Gotenks could damage his weak spot so Imagine Broly.
@sdadddd: you’re banking heavily on the weak point when AT’s statement doesn’t mention it at all. Which is head canony but I’ll reserve my opinion till I watch the movie fully
Only DB fans think their delusional headcanon can become reality by ignoring blatant facts and repeating themselves enough.
"Cell Max would've possibly been stronger than Broly IF he were completed!!!"
"But he wasn't completed so he explicitly wasn't stronger than Broly otherwise Toriyama wouldn't have bothered to emphasize such in the interview."
"Ackshually no he wasn't completed but they said he would be complete if they did this thing that they literally didn't do. So in conclusion he was actually complete."
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Considering how Broly doesn't even have access to the green SSJ form at will, being as disingenuous and arguing off vague bullshit as Nerdhan fans usually do it can be concluded that SSJ Broly and Base/SSJ Gogeta at worst are enough to stomp these two out.
This is a pain to read.
Ot: Gogeta>>his own partner and team 1. Broly should still solo team 1 until there is proof somebody like Gohan could beat cell max mind.
it can be concluded that SSJ Broly and Base/SSJ Gogeta at worst are enough to stomp these two out.
Keep dreaming 😂 :
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