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I thought fates have been debunked. Mechikabura is multiversal + in power and has time based regeneration on a multiversal + scale including tons of hax. He stomps.
@lordragoon: He can't be that strong because there are no infinite timelines in the DB multiverse. And even if there were, the Moon Cell also stores infinite timelines. But on top of that it can control 8 dimensions, each of which sees the lower dimension and its space time as a flat scroll. BB is also immune to everything the DB verse throws at her with Ten Crowns, or by manipulating the law to where she cannot be targeted like Meltrylis did. Offensively, she either absorbs the DB verse via black noise (which can flood entire realities and grants her their powers and abilities) or with C.C.C (which rewrites reality itself along with its concepts and laws). BB godstomps, no ifs or buts.
Multiversal Fate's been debunked a LONG time ago. Mechi stomps.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/gilgamesh-fateextra-ccc-respect-thread-1984736/?page=2
BB still stomps. And even if CCC wasn't multiversal (which isn't true), BB still stomps Mechikabura with her hax.
BB still stomps. And even if CCC wasn't multiversal (which isn't true), BB still stomps Mechikabura with her hax.
Where's your proof that it says it contains an "infinite multiverse" when the Fate Extra guidebook says that it stores the simulations of the possibilities of Earth. It even says that the Moon Cell is incapable of manipulating real Earth, where it would take ten years to turn all the women on Earth into little sisters.
Nice "multiversal" Moon Cell 😂.
Hell, even Matou Sakura says that the Moon Cell powers are equivalent to a single solar system. But you didn't know any of that, did you? That's because you guys literally don't even know Japanese and are being "pretentious", as hewould put it.
Whilst you guys are being obsessed with a Goddamn 2007 Chuuni game in your little server. I have completed Kajiri Kamui Kagura and am currently reading Avesta of Black and White and Aditiya, two of Masada's latest works.
@crimsonslayer85: @chasekilleen: if I'm not mistaken, the text said the same thing but you know how they are only
HeadCanon but BB could have better hax? (the others hax would be useless he kill her before She doing something)the only problem would be Ten Crowns EX but this work Only on Humans
@crimsonslayer85:cringeValley stop this pls(guys i mean he says the same things as cringevalley)
@thebot3: The thing with BB's hax is that it only works on people on Earth. Mechikabura is a demon. Even then, Mechikabura is equivalent to people in Dragon Ball Heroes with similar fate manipulation. Lmao, at CCC roster touching any Dragon Ball Heroes top-tier characters since BB's powers can't even affect the entirety of Earth.
Crimsonslayer isn't Crystalvalley/ZGTfreak, but he sees CCC's misinformation as the second coming of Christ.
The thing with BB's hax is that it only works on people on Earth. Mechikabura is a demon. Even then, Mechikabura is equivalent to people in Dragon Ball Heroes with similar fate manipulation.
This is actually wrong, the only authority working only on beings born on Earth is the immunity from Potnia Theron, because it's an authority from the Earth Mother Goddess, even then this immunity to lifeform born on Earth got neggated by the Mythological mystic code for the boss fight and their chance of victory was still only 0.9999%. C.C.C still worked on them in the dead ending and C.C.C derives some of its power from Potnia Theron.
Tiamat, Gorgon and even Ashtart have Potnia Theron but they don't have attack negation from Domina Cornam
Dr. Roman | The body of the Earth Mother is used as soil to create the world. It is a theme seen in other mythologies too. A goddess creates life. But when she turns to chaos, she becomes the enemy of humanity, the mother of Demonic Beasts. It's an Authority called Potnia Theron, the “Womb of a Hundred Beasts.” Anyone with this Authority possesses the seed of life... They can make an infinite amount of monsters, provided they have the resources. Based on the number of Demonic Beasts, the goddess to the north likely has this Authority. |
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Merlin | Gorgon, the monster known for killing heroes in Greek mythology. She's here either because of the King of Mages' Holy Grail or due to some twist of fate. Whichever it is, the Grail has restored her former appearance and power. While many legends tell of the monstrous Gorgon Sisters' murderous exploits, none depict any of them giving birth to other monsters. Therefore, the Authority to give birth to Demonic Beasts, Potnia Theron, must have come from the Holy Grail. |
Gorgon | You dare call me a fake Tiamat...? You, a girl who can't even materialize without a human vessel? |
Ishtar | I've got every right. Even with Potnia Theron, you're no match to Tiamat. First of all, Mother didn't need other creatures to create Demonic Beasts, anyway. She could make a world on her own. |
Merlin | Gorgon didn't have Tiamat's Authority because she was a copy. She was synchronized... She shared her senses with the real Tiamat to gain Potnia Theron...! |
BB simply recreated this skill with the Mother Goddesses datas.
Her Domina Cornam : Ten Crowns, Faceless Moon and other abilities do not have this limitation. Also, it's not a fate manipulation.
BB
What basis are you claiming that BB wins? It literally says that the Moon Cell is the eye that observes Earth itself. And that it would simulate all life forms on Earth and even predict the future. It even says that it stores the database of not only lives on Earth, but history and souls are included in its database. There is no mention of the Moon Cell containing a "multiverse" or "universe" anywhere.
Lmao, what? It doesn't say that the Cursed Cutting Crater is derived from Potnia Theron.
??? What I said is that Potnia Theron is used in C.C.C so where is the problem?
An anti-planet Noble Phantasm. It’s an attack that violates the world through BB’s control over Moon Cell. It’s also called a pseudo-spiritron trap.
By drawing out the maximum potential of BB’s EX skill Potnia Theron, a world purge via rewriting of events is carried out.
The space that BB invades becomes an imaginary space and it becomes a curse that eclipses the world. Just like its name C.C.C. it causes huge damage from the curse cutting away at reality.
The name “Cursed” is based on the image of a giant spoon that scoops out the surface of the Moon and turns it into a cursed space (the imaginary space).
During development when the game’s concept was still being decided, we considered making it a Noble Phantasm that was homage to Black Sakura.
It says that it is an Anti-Star, an EX skill that BB GAINED that maximises the effectiveness of Potnia Theron. It says it right there, lmao.
1. It's not an anti star lol, it's classified anti planet and anti world. Nasu uses star for anything like celestial body, even Saber Venus' NP apparently anti star but still only affects a small core. Quirinus has "anti star" NP but is only planet level. C.C.C is anti world because it affects the reality, just like every anti world NP.
2. C.C.C still works on the servant with the Mythological mystic code. So, it doesn't matter.
And are you seriously going to wank Potnia Theon when it is just a game mechanic used in F.G.O. to help your allies recover H.P.
You can't read? Where did I used Potnia Theron from FGO? It's Domina Cornam, it has nothing to do with the Earth Mother Goddess but the Evil Kings and Draco Beast.
Potnia Theron isn't attack negation. Even Tiamat, Gorgon have it and still can't neggate attacks...
This is Domina Cornam:Ten Crowns :
Official TL:
Both literally say "Ten Crowns/Domina Cornam AND not Potnia Theron lol.
Pontia Theron is related to the Mother Goddess, not the Evil kings and Draco/Beast of Babylon. I don't see what is so hard to understand.
Also, these two scans from FGO aren't from the profile, it's just the passive skill in gameplay but this one is about what is really Ten Crowns, not a gameplay mechanic:
The teacher's pointer that BB carries.A device that allows her to use her authority as an advanced level AI to its fullest.There are restrictions from the far side of the moon, but with this, BB can revise the game rules (spirit particle laws within the SE.RA.PH)The ten crowns of direction worn by the Beast of Babylon converted into a teacher's cane.
Even fucking Julius can use Ten Crowns and is has nothing to do with Mother Goddess, just a simple human with a replica lol.
Domina Cornam doesn't just cancel attacks.
And let's not just forget the fact that the Potnia Theron is a skill that's said in Japanese to rewrite all the received injuries and nullify all damage taken. It is therefore counted as fate manipulation.
Wtf?
Potnia Theron (Conception of All Animals).
The authority of the goddesses that BB compiled and absorbed from the abyss of the mooncell.
It embodies the power of all creation possessed by the mother goddesses—originating from a forgotten goddess approximately 8000 years ago (the goddess of Çatalhöyük) and branching to Tiamat and Cybele, Ishtar, Inanna, Anat, Astarte, Gaia, Hera, Artemis, Aphrodite, Demeter, Athena, etc.
Many are depicted with mural crowns. This is because many of these goddesses were also guardian deities of cities.
The symbols of this authority include holes opening the earth and the sky (caves and the moon), whirling tides and waterspouts of the sea, calderas of the volcanoes, etc., and from these, evils that bring all manners of death are birthed. However, after these evils have spread death, they promise certain good harvest and fertility. This authority is none other than the power of bringing death as well as giving life.
The earth mother is worshipped by the people and protects them as a guardian deity, but at the same time, she is the very sacrifice that nurtures them with crops born from her body and beasts of the fields and the forests.
The earth mother nurtures men with her flesh and blood, kills men as time passes to restores herself with her own nourishment, and once again nurtures men with her restored flesh and blood.
This process is the cycle of the food chain, and this cycle of life and death can be said to be the true nature of the earth mother. With this authority, most of the goddesses gave birth to countless monsters and giants, posing threats to gods and men, or they gave birth to heroes, thus protecting people.
As representative examples, Tiamat and Gaia became threats, while Hera is a mother of heroes.
Those born on this earth cannot defy the authority of the mother goddess, as that would mean rebelling against the very system of life.
However, when they leave this earth, head to space, and end the childhood as intelligent lifeforms, they will have broken this authority.
The wish of Çatalhöyük is the coming of that day.
Can you give me an evidence that Domina Cornam and the other abilities are limited to Earth lifeform?
@nurseryrhyme: bruh wait I edited the typos that I made.
My memory might became muddy because I haven't touched a single Fate media in years, so I admit made a lot of mistakes.
I find Fate franchise really shite. Only Kara no Kyoukai and Tsukihime.
I was only here to argue that Mechikabura destroys BB due to superior feats and I doubt Moon Cell BB is able to do anything significant to Mechikabura. Because she's below planetary level and lol at ZGT's 8D Moon Cell when the kanji used for Moon Cell was layers, not "dimensions".
Anyway, I'm going back to read Fate Extra CCC.
@nurseryrhyme: bruh wait I edited the typos that I made.
My memory might became muddy because I haven't touched a single Fate media in years, so I admit made a lot of mistakes.
I find Fate franchise really shite. Only Kara no Kyoukai and Tsukihime.
I was only here to argue that Mechikabura destroys BB due to superior feats and I doubt Moon Cell BB is able to do anything significant to Mechikabura. Because she's below planetary level and lol at ZGT's 8D Moon Cell when the kanji used for Moon Cell was layers, not "dimensions".
Anyway, I'm going back to read Fate Extra CCC.
I don't debate the match itself actually. I don't know much about Mechikabura anyway.
I agree about the Moon Cell being below planet level, same for BB in CCC too. In term of "hax" the Moon Cell and BB aren't the same except for the Moon Cell's core, and people always misinterpret stuff about it. Like this 8 dimensions shield that is just a shield but for some reason ZGT decided that it is a 8 dimensional existence shit when the quote never mention anything about higher dimensional stuff but a simple spherical shield. Same as this:
There is also the higher dimensional perspective that he confused whit R>F for his shitty wank. None of these are R>F. Just a shield and the other is the power to see and interact simultaneously in the past, present and future whithin the SE.RA.PH. FGO is different with Pele and the Evil God authority, it's not in a spiritron world but the material world and BB's power is based on their authorities, not just the Moon Cell (which doesn't even exist in the universe FGO). But while that the haxs are better, in terms of power it's still not close to multiversal.
Lmao at a top 5 verse losing to DB.
BB solos the verse
BB blinks the franchise with negative difficulty.
It's not hard to see who wins.
Lmao at Fate being a Top 5 verse when it's barely planetary. Hell, it even says that the Moon Cell is the eye that observes Earth. It meticulously simulates the possibility of Earth, it can even predict the Earth's future. Lmao at 8D Moon Cell when you have all those English peasants who don't even understand Japanese Kanji try to read a game they can't even comprehend. The Kanji used is "layers" not "dimensions". Moon Cell is like an onion. Cope.
Lmao at Fate being a Top 5 verse when it's barely planetary
Zeus, Chaos, Servantverse, etc is a thing though.
@theinterestedimpulse: dawg how you come here with copy pasta? and from the wiki too? dear god.
anyways, first scan context is literally just earths in its newborn period (genesis), not the universe (Which in some cases can be solar system with vogayer), and later is S/F they barely create a planet level attack (continental).
second scan is outright false, and comes from the wiki, with no feats to prove its true, meaningless purpleprose.
third scan is taken out of context because when context is given, we know the mooncell can barely affect a dead gaia which isnt resisting its texture being overwritten, and cant even do the sister analogy as fast as any conventional reality warper (takes 10 years to reality warp, and cant create a one by one earth, as we've learned from chase.) we also know fate timelines are infinite but finite in number (because of pruning saying the solar system cant handle such things, also remember the solar system term too) so the scan has no real weight nor feats to be true.
(ill try to find the quote for this, but i believe @nurseryrhyme shared it with me.)
and chase has an excellent scan of the moon cell being equal to the solar system (which i told you would an important term.) meaning it also cant contain infinite timelines if the solar system itself cant.
The fourth scan is probably multiversal tanamo, countered by everything in the FGO story (and how tanamo isnt that bright.)
and dawg, you know the 8 dimension sheild is a normal ass fricking sheild with no higher-dimensional properties and rather is just a layered sheild that can be pierced by anti celestial body NP's (Aka Planet level shield)
so BB at that time did not have the DC/AP to destroy a planet level barrier.
and crossing a planet level barrier thats already been destroyed isnt impressive, and neither can gil replicate any feats he did in CCC in the normal nasuverse.
why? because legends are stronger than natural phenomea in conceptual space, so gods like shiva would be universal and goetia higher dimensional by default when they enter into SERAPH. and its not impressive cosindering natural phenmoea trumps digital conceptual space, its practically a videogame inside a VN (which again, isnt impressive.)
LMAO, look who it is, someone who knows jack shit about Japanese but is pretending to know or understand Japanese. Are you serious about "muhh official translator" when most of these translators have subpar Japanese skills??
more cyanotype daydream's english TL goof-ups 😶 here's a screenshot where a character at a supermarket referred to as バイトリーダー (literally, a "part-time job leader") was translated to "byte reader" (???) pic.twitter.com/bufRUPhNtX
— Azu (@Azuriium) May 15, 2022
Hell, even Matou Sakura confirmed that the Moon Cell's power output is equivalent to a single solar system. She calls the Moon Cell an almighty computer solely because it is equal to a single solar system.
Are we just going to ignore the fact that the Official Fate Extra CCC material straight-up calls Moon Cell a supercomputer that stores the possibilities of Earth itself and simulates the entire thing?
Hell, are you seriously going to claim Muhh "multiversal Moon Cell" when the Official Material confirmed that the supercomputer takes around ten years to transform all the womenon Earthinto little sisters.
And LMAOOO, at Muhhh dimensional Moon Cell, when the Kanji used to describe your shitty eight-dimensional Moon Cell was referred to as "layers" and not "dimensions" in Japanese.
@theinterestedimpulse: dawg how you come here with copy pasta? and from the wiki too? dear god.
anyways, first scan context is literally just earths in its newborn period (genesis), not the universe (Which in some cases can be solar system with vogayer), and later is S/F they barely create a planet level attack (continental).
second scan is outright false, and comes from the wiki, with no feats to prove its true, meaningless purpleprose.
third scan is taken out of context because when context is given, we know the mooncell can barely affect a dead gaia which isnt resisting its texture being overwritten, and cant even do the sister analogy as fast as any conventional reality warper (takes 10 years to reality warp, and cant create a one by one earth, as we've learned from chase.) we also know fate timelines are infinite but finite in number (because of pruning saying the solar system cant handle such things, also remember the solar system term too) so the scan has no real weight nor feats to be true.
(ill try to find the quote for this, but i believe @nurseryrhyme shared it with me.)
and chase has an excellent scan of the moon cell being equal to the solar system (which i told you would an important term.) meaning it also cant contain infinite timelines if the solar system itself cant.
The fourth scan is probably multiversal tanamo, countered by everything in the FGO story (and how tanamo isnt that bright.)
and dawg, you know the 8 dimension sheild is a normal ass fricking sheild with no higher-dimensional properties and rather is just a layered sheild that can be pierced by anti celestial body NP's (Aka Planet level shield)
so BB at that time did not have the DC/AP to destroy a planet level barrier.
I know your chase, cut the act.
sure, sure. i hate how I've been discredited 3 times by being called an alt.
Visuals ≠ Narrative which clearly state universal AP was happening.
Visuals =/= narrative?
you've literally posted purple prose that gets discredited by visual feats saying otherwise, and without a proper citation (or a link to that info), i can't even take you seriously.
The second scan is the LN of Fate Strange Fake. I'm not going to take you seriously nor anyone else if you try to cop-out arguments with "that's from the wiki" bullshit.
dear god...even the wiki is better than the site you snatched that from, the strange fake light novel is apprantley hard to come by, let alone translate, so i doubt those scans are real.
There no feats that allow akhilleus kosmos to suddenly be a universe.
Third scan is not even related to CCC. Just normal nasu stuff. It's a CE describing Achilles Kosmos - an A+ rank noble phantasm. EX ranked NPs and star ranked stats would realistically scale above and thus be universal + at bare minimum.
citation for your stupidity, i mean, reasoning? because Akhilleus Kosmos is just a divine construct that only replicates earth and not the universe.
hell, when invoked, it doesn't even show the world or stars, it shows greece. no universe seen there.
scaling invalidated, point debunked.
(Oh, and it got destroyed by a nonuniversal character.)
You have an excellent scan? Power source ≠ Power. Sun ≠ Star-level Superman. The best you can logically extrapolate from the scan is that the moon-cell is more than 100% efficent with its energy which it is.
the sun part is actually a mistranslation, and again, if the solar system cant handle it (which the mooncell scales too) neither can the mooncell that scales too it.
and no, the mooncell is not 100% efficent with its energy, and can barely support adjacent worlds with its energy.
so moot point.
The fourth scan is contradicts nothing but your false narrative. It shows that Fate Extra scales above rest of Nasuverse.
any person who has witnessed my debates with crimsonslayer85 knows this is laughably false. (and those werent even debates but multiple people debunking him every month.)
anti planet attacks > Mooncell (Go cry Vsbattle wiki stans)
Fate Extella Moon-cell ≠ Fate Extra Moon-cell and even if they were equal, we have already established that any NP above A+ rank is capable of universal + to multiversal output.
so you aren't different from the rest of the CCC fans, and now you're going to link me to the nonexistent extella Zero to prove your point? despite extellas mooncell and fate extra mooncell barriers both being one of light.
it scales without a doubt, GO has made it clear that digital space doesnt change, and the mooncell in extella is actually better than the one in extra (otherwise Chase wouldnt be finding all these anti feats.)
and no, you haven't established any NP A+ is universal, you've blown Achilles kosmos out of the water with false info and false scans.
@chasekilleen: Get off your alts. Final warning.
ive lost all intial tolerance/respect for you, dont @ me.
Whatever you say, Chase. Don't get banned again.
@lilbroomstick@thebot do you think he's serious or not?
either way...
@theinterestedimpulse:HAHAHAHAHA. OMFG, you are seething so hard. You can't even debunk me when I use Japanese scans because you literally don't know Japanese. You have to fabricate excuses to cope by saying that I don't know Japanese or that I am not a translator. English only peasants like you and including that little Discord server with (Etriel in there) of yours are still obsessed with Dies Irae, a goddamn 2007 Chuuni game about autistic Gods.
Holy crap, you guys can't even read Japanese yet pretend to know Japanese. You know how embarrassing and cringe your discord group is when you guys seethe over Dies Irae because you guys CAN ONLY COMPHEREND DIES IRAE.
I'll let you in on one thing. One of the people from JAST (a well-known translation company) has approached me and others who wanted me to help them with Japanese translation projects. But of course, you don't know that because no one ever approached you in life.
You'll always be known as that Gilgamesh wanker that spreads misinformation, ZGTfreak's middleman. The misinformation about Shinza Banshou is pure cringe, and oh boy, am I glad you quit Spacebattles and Comicvine (on your main) because you were cringe in everything you laid your hands on. The amount of bullcrap coming out of your mouth was insufferable, and it was like some insanity test.
Again. Several people have approached me to do translation projects from Japanese to English. You're just a nobody on the internet. You don't have any qualifications to be in front of me arguing about the validity of my scans when you can't even comprehend Japanese. You have to make excuses and make lies to discredit other people. You are a joke, and you are not even debunking me. All you are doing is "you are wrong, but I am going to weasel my way out by shifting the goalpost."
"Downplay". Sure buddy, you still haven't brought up a valid argument since I sent my scans. And I dare you to debunk my Japanese scans, but you won't because you literally do not understand Japanese. You are cringe and think you're some hotshot when you can't even correctly understand English, your mother tongue.
Chase stop. We have MULTIPLE official translations and sources confirming universal/multiversal nasuverse. I know you miss Zgtfreak, but this is not how we debate.
BB :: However…The Moon Cell, you might say impudent, or that its defenses are flawless. Even though I managed to pass through the imaginary number space at the speed of light, a huge wall now stands before our devilish heroine BB-chan! It's a perfectly spherical spirit particle defense wall that cuts through eight dimensions. It looks like it'll be very hard to break down this wall. But this is the last move. After I break this wall into little pieces I'll have reached my goal. So I've left all of you in Meltlilith's care. The girl can't really take a joke, but her work is perfect. So take care, senpai. Please entertain me with your useless flailing on this layer too ÔÖÑ
All you've posted are wank and out of context scans that some people debunked... Metabee has already explained most of the problem with your post.
F/Extra:
Formally called Moon Cell Automaton.
It is the energy storage device discovered within the Moon.
It is an artifact made by some non-human intelligent lifeforms, and is the super computer used as the setting for Fate/EXTRA.
There are seven layers confirmed so far in its cyber world structure. The first layer, which is the surface of the Moon, is accessible even to run-of-the-mill hackers.
To intrude into the second layer or deeper into the Moon is probably too difficult for non-wizards… or perhaps I should say that there is just no physical way to do so.
Transference of the soul — a body transformed into spiritrons, is necessary to be able to peek any further into the abyss.
Old world magi could connect with the interior portions of Moon Cell as part of meditation without using radio waves.
To put it simply Moon Cell is, “The eye that observes the Earth.”
Moon Cell is a computational device that accurately simulates all of Earth and its life forms, and can even accurately predict the future.
Moon Cell is a database of humanity. A colossal memory device that has recorded mankind’s ecology and history, and even the thoughts and souls of [all] people.
A Pandora’s Box that promises the next stage of evolution, promises god-like power to those intelligent lifeforms who have become technologically advanced enough to scan the interior of the moon.
F/Extella:
Official Name: Moon Cell Automaton
An energy-storing body discovered inside the Moon.
An artifact constructed by non-human intelligent life.
The supercomputer that serves as the stage for Fate/EXTELLA.
Up to seven levels have been structurally identified in cyberspace, and the first level, the surface of the Moon, is accessible by even normal hackers.
However, going beyond the second level is difficult for anyone other than Wizards. In fact, there is no way to physically invade the Moon past this layer
Without soul transference into a digitized body converted into virtual spiritrons, it is impossible to gaze into its abyss.
However, it is said that the ancient practitioners of magecraft could make contact with the inside of the Moon Cell simply by meditating, instead of using electric waves.
The Moon Cell is, in essence, “an eye that observes the Earth.”
A processor with a massive memory that has recorded the habit, ideas, and even the souls of humanity, it acts as a database of human history and faithfully simulates all life on Earth.
It can be thought of as a Pandora’s Box that will usher in the next stage of evolutionary growth, promising god-like power to the intelligent life forms who become technologically advanced enough to access the Moon’s interior levels.
Originally an observation device left behind by an alien civilization.
It was at first only capable of recording the nature of life on Earth, but after many years, it came to possess its current abilities.
To properly fulfill its role as an observer, the Moon Cell determined that there must be “nothing left unseen.”
(This action was derived from Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle, which states that the observer determines an event by observing it, while that which is not observed cannot be certain.)
By its very nature, an observation device must be impartial. Thus, in order to record all things without bias, the Moon Cell required virtual omniscience, and focused its self-development toward that end.
It enhanced its functions beyond mere observation into a colossal computation device capable of conducting active surveillance and understanding the inner workings of the planet.
These greater enhancements caused its administration policy to become more complicated, with many terminals and even artificial intelligences created to assist in managing the functions of each section. (These were later utilized by the NPCs and advanced Als in the Holy Grail War.)
Despite these advances, the Moon Cell firmly held off on installing an artificial intelligence for itself, in order to maintain its commitment to absolute objectivity.
To remain impartial, the observer must not have a mind, for a mind would result in meaning being attached to the events being viewed.
And so the Moon Cell remained an impartial observer engaged in purely functional activities, continually removing any semblance of “intelligent” functions arising as it worked.
It was a computer with no conception of good or evil, no desire for the future, and no interest in any outcome, it simply observes, a “typewriter left behind by God,” as one researcher put it.
It is worth noting that the Holy Grail Wars did slightly change the nature of the Moon Cell, via events that were held for the purpose of recording the activity of the human mind, as well as through the choices of the War’s victor, the Main Character.
In the future, SE.RA.PH is likely to transition from a strictly observational platform to a stage upon which humanity will evolve.
For now, the Moon Cell continues to record history
Its function as a machine that simply provides the world remaining unchanged.
The Moon Cell observes the Earth and its future, then records everything in its core.
Moon Cell‘s core is Moon Cell.
As far as Moon Cell is concerned, the seven layers that make up the interior of the Moon are just “additional memory.”
Moon Cell‘s core is what really manages the Moon and observes the Earth.It is the brain that stores the data about the past and future.
It observes the determination of every possible destiny every second, computes further results, and stores everything inside itself as light.
There are untold tens of millions of lights years of light trapped within the core, and the entire photonic crystal structure is also powered by it.
A certain person named Moon Cell‘s core, “The Destiny Perceiving Dendrogram.”
Just by using information encoded by converging light Moon Cell‘s core can even rewrite the laws of physics.
Phenomena Selection Tree Angelica Cage.
…The ability to enter Moon Cell‘s core is the forbidden fruit that is offered to the ultimate victor of the Holy Grail War.
After overcoming the Seven Seas the protagonist, who is the last one left alive, finally makes it to Moon Cell‘s core.
A sea of light and innumerable coffins await him/her there.
And there the one that waits for the protagonist, upon the rubble of the entombed remains of the many victors.
The Moon Cell doesn't create or simulate any universe, it only records the human orders, Earth and possibilities. It can also scans the "Earth's time line" from different universe like in FGO where Moon Cell doesn't exist and still send BB there to stop Beast Kiara, but none of these are multiversal or universal. Both SE.RA.PH, the one of Moon Cell in Extraverse and SE.RA.PH from FGO are only solar system sized.
Achilles' shield doesn't contain an universe.
The Miniature World Enclosed by the Azure Sky [Noble Phantasm]
Akhilleus Kosmos. Achilles’ trump card which protects the wielder by deploying a miniature world. A divine armament created by the hands of the blacksmith god Hephaestus. It can event against nearly any attack, whether it be from an Anti-Unit, Anti-Army, Anti-Fortress or even Anti-Country Noble Phantasm. However, due to this Noble Phantasm’s nature, it is weak against Anti-World Noble Phantasms alone.
A description of this shield appears in a hundred lines of text in Book 18 of the “Illiad”. Hephaestus reproduced the world he lived in itself in miniature form in this shield.
In the light novel, Achilles doesn’t use it himself, gave it over to Astolfo for him to use. Naturally, transferring Noble Phantasms would normally never happen in a regular Holy Grail War. Even in the Great Holy Grail War, it would normally be unthinkable.
In the first place, most Noble Phantasms are tied to the legends of heroes. Even if you were to borrow Gae Bolg from the blue spearman, that doesn’t mean you would be able to activate Gae Bolg.
However, there are exceptions. In this case, in addition to the necessary conditions of “being where he is making a contract, instead of being in opposition, of his own volition” and the Noble Phantasm “not requiring considerable skill and power to invoke its true name”, it is believed that the transfer of the Noble Phantasm went smoothly because there is “an episode in the legend of the giver (Achilles) where he loans his Noble Phantasms” and “an episode in the legend of the receiver (Astolfo) where he borrows a Noble Phantasm”.
In addition, when Achilles alone wields it, this shield can be used to “attack” as well. After deploying the Noble Phantasm, he would aim to crush the enemy with that miniature world by continuously pushing forward. Most likely, Hephaestus never thought of such a method of using it.
And the world contained in the shield is just the way the Greeks see it iirc, just Greece lol. Also, it was destroyed by VS in Apochrypha, I guess VS is universal now???
1. The worlds that the NP of Suzuka see are the same that Moon Cell records, Suzuka's NP is as powerful as Moon Cell recording system.
Trichiliocosm: EX
A skill that would originally be treated as a Noble Phantasm.
By exposing Suzuka Gozen’s favorite sword - the Kenmyouren - to the morning sun, it is possible to create and survey the trichiliocosm (all worlds, including parallel worlds) in the blade.
...Suzuka Gozen does not reveal what sort of meaning this has.
If employed for a long period of time, her qualifications as a Heroic Spirit will be revoked.
2. Multiversal Tamamo is a meme, a fail from the official translators, the original term was something related to Buddhism, it could be planets or just some textures stuff. Tamamo nine tails is only similar to Golden White Face just a like a living sun.
Konjiki Hakumen.
This is the nine-tailed divine spirit form of Cas-ko. In this form she is a pseudo-god that is a deification of the sun. You get a peek of her like this in her 3rd Secret Garden. The apathetic Sun Goddess [Amaterasu Oomikami].
When Cas-ko goes into nine-tails mode this is what she will……not be. This form is Cas-ko’s origin, and is now just something that’s been part of her since long ago and continues to be a part of her. When she becomes this high level of a divine spirit, the time axis is no longer a limiting factor to her.
Normally someone entering the mausoleum would be burnt to a crisp, but as expected of our Zabio/Zabiko [nicknames for the male/female protagonist] he or she flaunts their recklessness in the face of danger (stupid menu choices), and somehow pull through.
Originally we wanted to feature her without clothing (in her lovely nine-tailed divine spirit form wearing only an apron [naked-apron]), however, unable to break through the ethical wall that is our consciences, she appears properly clad in her ceremonial attire.
By the way, when someone who has no dream enters the mausoleum, the only thing that can be seen is a giant sun.
Crest of the Wandering Star
A skill unique to Titan Altera and the key skill in her character design.
It allows her to take on a giant form in order to destroy civilization.
This is a passive skill that allows Altera to absorb the lives, creations, and concepts she destroys as spiritron-information, making her grow even larger. It is not a skill that she can remove of her own volition.
Her HP increases by an order of magnitude2 when she absorbs the same amount of mana as her current HP.
When her body reaches a size that is twice as large as her previous proportions (at 16, 32, 64,128, 256, 512, and 1024 meters), all her parameters increase by one level as she transitions to the next part of her titan adjustment.
(For example, her Strength is A-rank, so if you think of it as 150 points, adding one level at A+ rank would double that number, putting it at 300 points.)
And if the Titan adjustment is added to that, 300 points at the first stage would become 3,000 at the second stage, 30,000 at the third stage, and so on. At the seventh stage, it would be 300,000,000.
This is an energy mass on the scale of a star, comparable to the power level of the legendary Golden White Face’s nine-tailed form (387,420,489).
This is just some extra trivia, but the “Crest of the Star” skill possessed by the Altera in Fate/Grand Order is missing one character.
The characters you mentioned are not the planet level Fate characters except for a hypothetical Tamamo nine tail. Fate "verse" is more hax based than firepower and the only characters at planet level and above are Romulus=Quirinus, Machine God Artemis (planet level). Potentially the Insect of the Abyss, Cernunnos, BB with Evil God, God Arjuna, Kirschtaria Wodime, Ecchan and pre-XEX MHX, Surtr. Golden White Face/Amaterasu and probably Velber (sun level). Zeus 35%, Goetia, Morgan, Buddha (star system level). Chaos 3% (above star system), MHX post-XEX, Ishtarin, Ashtart (galaxy level), XX should be a bit above them.
You're a joke and sad, ZGTfreak. You are cringe, and that's why people started to disassociate with you. "you're not an official translator." Lmao, that's pure cope. That is why JAST is offering me to work on the project, right? I don't know Japanese, nor am I a "professional translator."
You're literally using Machine Translation in your scans to prove your English Peasant scans. What do you mean you have official translations? Then I dare you to "debunk" me using "OFFICIAL" translations and prove that I'm just using headcanon? I forgot that Fate Extra CCC was fan-translated by people with subpar Japanese comprehension skills. OFFICIAL Fate/Extra CCC translation doesn't even exist, lmao.
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