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#151 Posted by TheTrueRedKid (34 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes!!! This is what I’m talking about.

This is a tough battle. As stated earlier, fights between immensely super-powered beings are going to come down to a few factors, because there powers allow them to cover so many bases. @highaccuser@themagicstik and @zhurong had great arguments that helped put the tide on Wonder Woman’s side.

Okay, Wonder Woman and Beta Ray Bill can punch and kick each other all day. All planet-busting and star core-surviving displays aside, the point is both are essentially invulnerable to all forms of possible damage. So the question is: How will the battle end? Or, more precisely, how CAN the battle end? What kind of move is going to put the brakes on either one of them?

For the badass Beta Ray Bill, he has the coup-de-grace ability to teleport a combatant from the battlefield, and make his escape, or make it so that it would take too long for the opponent to get back to the fight. This is a pretty crazy ability. I could see this putting an end to things, except for the fact that, by definition, it also a last ditch effort. If you’re trying to stop your opponent, why would you just transport them to some undisclosed location, just so they could come back at some point and you’d have to fight them again? The only way this would come into play would be to save your own life, at the cost of half-assedly dealing with your opponent. Basically, if you know you’re about to lose, you’ll whip this one out.

Wonder Woman, for all her Themyscirian might, has kind of the same issue as BRB. They’re both basically invulnerable, so what do you do to stop your opponent, when just beating them up is really not one of your options? This is where WW will pull ahead. She has the lasso. It may sound like a small detail, but it’s not. No one is known to have broken out of that lasso. With her weapon, she will be able to wrap Bill up, and keep him contained until she decides what she wants to do with him. And since technical knockout, i.e. indefinite immobilization counts as a win in this fight, that’s all she has to do. She has all the right parameters to put the lasso into play, as well. Speed, strength, durability, and acumen in order to get the move off – she has them all.

Due to the fact that WW has an ability to end the battle without having to use a last-ditch effort to avoid defeat, I give this fight to Diana of Themyscira 9/10.

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#152 Edited by micah007123 (10836 posts) - - Show Bio

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@spawnofgod: Talk is cheap. You couldn't debunk if you tried. She has one good strength feat. In terms of durability feats she cannot block attacks wider than the sphere of her body. He bracelets can only block focused attacks.

Here a complete jobber, Blue Ice, hurts her with lightning. Wonder Woman 154

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In Wonder Woman 219 Superman flies her into the sun. She's gets scared up.

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In Wonder Woman 221, two issues later, and bear in mind who good her healing is, she is still scared.

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That's ONE sun, not the power of 1000 suns. Her Tiara is a non factor, she cut Superman because of his magic weakness. It's her New 52 sword that cuts at an atomic level. Her speed advantage? Doomsday isn't fast at all, he's a brawler. He thrashed her. Wonder Woman 111

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Wonder Woman 112. Champion saves her from death, a scientist helps her beat Doomsday by making him seize up.

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@militaryman: Her New 52 sword cuts at atomic level not her PC sword.

I need to clean up a lot of this.

  • Firstly Superman's ribs were still injured after fighting Wonder Woman (getting scans now)
  • Secondly your Doomsday scan is flawed. That's not even the real Doomsday, but a clone that was stronger than the original. The male scientist in those scans accidentally killed his son and tried to remake him using a computer. The child's subconsciousness was creating things out of nothing. It created a version of the Flash that Wonder Woman had to capture and then ended up creating this version of Doomsday and it kept getting stronger because the child kept increasing its power, which is why Hercules literally says "It's getting stronger with each step." and is further proven when the scientist even say that it is, which is why WW had to use the gauntlets of Atlas to increase her own strength 10x.
  • Finally her sword has always been able to cleave atoms this isn't something that's new to her New 52 character.

The sword splitting atom thing is PIS. It literally came out of nowhere to further the story sooooo don't use that.

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#153 Edited by UberHulk (695 posts) - - Show Bio

@evil_incarnate: Whether Superman's ribs were injured is irrelevant. The Doomsday clone gradually got stronger. He was too strong for her at the beginning of the fight. It doesn't change the fact that with Stormbreaker BRB can hit a hell of a lot harder than Doomsday.

Finally her sword has always been able to cleave atoms this isn't something that's new to her New 52 character.

I'd like to see a reference.

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#154 Posted by micah007123 (10836 posts) - - Show Bio

@uberhulk said:

@evil_incarnate: Whether Superman's ribs were injured is irrelevant. The Doomsday clone gradually got stronger. He was too strong for her at the beginning of the fight. It doesn't change the fact that with Stormbreaker BRB can hit a hell of a lot harder than Doomsday.

Finally her sword has always been able to cleave atoms this isn't something that's new to her New 52 character.

I'd like to see a reference.

Don't bother it was a stupid PIS feat that really doesn't make sense.

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#155 Edited by Saint_Sophie (7263 posts) - - Show Bio

@deadcool_xd: Except electricity has done little to nothing to her. She took Zeus' lightning, the one that came out from Cassie (Wonder Girl #2) lasso, and shook it off, later asking where she got that lasso. And what does that scan have to prove? It just shows the lightning coming out from WW's bracelets and electrocuting a pissed off goddess.

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#156 Posted by UberHulk (695 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer: Yep. It's actually post crisis but she was amped by all the Greek Gods.

http://www.comicvine.com/wonder-woman-21-the-cosmic-migration/4000-30151/

The Amazons below are chanting their prayers and the gods can feel electricity surging through and with the gods combined energy, Diana will have to block it with her bracelets. When she does deflect it, it will make contact with Amaltheia's legacy and it will create a bolt that must be directed to the three Gods’ crossed sceptres. With the chorus of prayer, a flame begins to create itself and through the cracks of the mountain as it heads directly for her and with her bracelets, she deflects it towards the three sceptres. It strikes, and the force is amplified. Diana strains as her skin begins to crack and blister. Finally, the mountain succumbs and Mount Olympus explodes with a blinding white light.

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#157 Posted by BoringPerson (3744 posts) - - Show Bio

BRB can't use any of his energy projection for fear of obliterating civilians.

Too much of a handicap, Wonder Woman wins 10/10.

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#158 Posted by Wolfrazer (15994 posts) - - Show Bio

@uberhulk: But it says there, it sounds like the combined energy of the gods is attacking Diana and thus she has to block it?

Or was that blast not from the Olympian Gods?....

At any rate, if she was amped then those scans don't annoy me as much...

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#159 Edited by Evil-Incarnate (6956 posts) - - Show Bio

@micah said:

@uberhulk said:

@evil_incarnate: Whether Superman's ribs were injured is irrelevant. The Doomsday clone gradually got stronger. He was too strong for her at the beginning of the fight. It doesn't change the fact that with Stormbreaker BRB can hit a hell of a lot harder than Doomsday.

Finally her sword has always been able to cleave atoms this isn't something that's new to her New 52 character.

I'd like to see a reference.

Don't bother it was a stupid PIS feat that really doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make sense because you would prefer that it not?

Here's a scan from Kingdom Come that even references the fact that the sword can cut atoms

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As far as BRB hitting harder than Doomsday what proof do you have a of this? Even of we were to use ABC logic Superman has far greater feats of strength than BRB and Doomsday is stronger than Superman. So what has BRB done strength wise to suggest that he's stronger than Doomsday?

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#161 Posted by UberHulk (695 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer: The recap explains they channel their powers through the bracelets to destroy mount Olympus. Read the penultimate paragraph.

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#162 Posted by BeaconofStrength (12487 posts) - - Show Bio

@boringperson: Beta Ray Bill is very good at controlling his powers. He can keep his energy attacks contained;The civilians won't get harmed by either of them. They'd probably take the battle somewhere else, too.

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#163 Edited by Saint_Sophie (7263 posts) - - Show Bio

@deadcool_xd: Thanks..? I guess she did say it stung a little, but lightning won't affect her the same way bullets or piercing objects do.

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#164 Posted by micah007123 (10836 posts) - - Show Bio

@micah said:

@uberhulk said:

@evil_incarnate: Whether Superman's ribs were injured is irrelevant. The Doomsday clone gradually got stronger. He was too strong for her at the beginning of the fight. It doesn't change the fact that with Stormbreaker BRB can hit a hell of a lot harder than Doomsday.

Finally her sword has always been able to cleave atoms this isn't something that's new to her New 52 character.

I'd like to see a reference.

Don't bother it was a stupid PIS feat that really doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make sense because you would prefer that it not?

Here's a scan from Kingdom Come that even references the fact that the sword can cut atoms

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As far as BRB hitting harder than Doomsday what proof do you have a of this? Even of we were to use ABC logic Superman has far greater feats of strength than BRB and Doomsday is stronger than Superman. So what has BRB done strength wise to suggest that he's stronger than Doomsday?

Thanks for posting a non-canon/alternate reality scan. My point still stands.

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#165 Posted by Evil-Incarnate (6956 posts) - - Show Bio

@uberhulk said:

@wolfrazer: Yep. It's actually post crisis but she was amped by all the Greek Gods.

http://www.comicvine.com/wonder-woman-21-the-cosmic-migration/4000-30151/

The Amazons below are chanting their prayers and the gods can feel electricity surging through and with the gods combined energy, Diana will have to block it with her bracelets. When she does deflect it, it will make contact with Amaltheia's legacy and it will create a bolt that must be directed to the three Gods’ crossed sceptres. With the chorus of prayer, a flame begins to create itself and through the cracks of the mountain as it heads directly for her and with her bracelets, she deflects it towards the three sceptres. It strikes, and the force is amplified. Diana strains as her skin begins to crack and blister. Finally, the mountain succumbs and Mount Olympus explodes with a blinding white light.

Do you not read your own scans or references? That chanting that the Amazons did powered up the actual Gods whom in return used their combined powers and directed it at WW who blocked it with her bracelets and the power bounced back amplified. She herself was never amped in that entire book. Please stop spreading fallacies.

@uberhulk: But it says there, it sounds like the combined energy of the gods is attacking Diana and thus she has to block it?

Or was that blast not from the Olympian Gods?....

At any rate, if she was amped then those scans don't annoy me as much...

He's not quoting things correctly. She was never amped it was a combined attempt by the Olympian Gods whom were all amped because the rest of the Amazons were praying to them. She simply stood there and defected the attack, which once deflected was amplified in power. Even if you go to the link he provided it says everything I just told you.

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#166 Posted by BoringPerson (3744 posts) - - Show Bio

@boringperson: Beta Ray Bill is very good at controlling his powers. He can keep his energy attacks contained;The civilians won't get harmed by either of them. They'd probably take the battle somewhere else, too.

They can't, only the city is allowed in the battle, that's the safest place in the city.

I don't think he can keep his high end energy attacks contained, especially after he notices WW can deflect them for potential civilian casualties.

Unless they take to the sky... where Wonder Woman has a serious mobility advantage.

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#167 Edited by UberHulk (695 posts) - - Show Bio

@evil_incarnate: Kingdom Come isn't canon.

http://www.comicvine.com/batman/4005-1699/forums/is-kingdom-come-canon-for-the-dcu-is-it-the-future-694096/

To be specific, according to the DC Encyclopedia, it takes place on Earth 22.

I already showed Thor smashing a planet with Mjolnir, Stormbreaker has the same properties. Superman hasn't smashed anything larger than a moon and even then was KTFO. Doomsday is marginally stronger than Superman but there's no evidence to suggest he's planetbuster level either. WW was hurt by less than planetary attacks. BRB doesn't have to be stronger than Doomsday to hurt WW, he just has to smash her with Stormbreaker.

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#168 Posted by BeaconofStrength (12487 posts) - - Show Bio

@boringperson: Of course he can't let everything loose, but neither can Wonder Woman. Bill is definitely smart enough to use his other powers, even when there are civilians.

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#169 Posted by ZhuRong (6728 posts) - - Show Bio

Over Rides the power of the ALE and Holds a Mutiversal Diety in place

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Nearly Crushes a Skyfather to death in his own realm.

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#170 Posted by The_Greatest_Username (244 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Wonder Woman takes this one. She can deflect Bill's energy attacks and could probably take him in hand-to-hand.

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#171 Edited by deadcool_XD (2503 posts) - - Show Bio

@deadcool_xd: Thanks..? I guess she did say it stung a little, but lightning won't affect her the same way bullets or piercing objects do.

Well, in that case, all bill has to do is pin her down lay the hammer on her so she cant get up and take her down.

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#172 Posted by BoringPerson (3744 posts) - - Show Bio

@boringperson: Of course he can't let everything loose, but neither can Wonder Woman. Bill is definitely smart enough to use his other powers, even when there are civilians.

Why can't she?

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#173 Posted by ZhuRong (6728 posts) - - Show Bio

She was able to tank attacks from Nekron (the same guy that beat Spectre and Anti-Monitor into submission):

http://s477.photobucket.com/user/fangirl102/media/wwwitchfirenekron38ev.jpg.html

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#174 Posted by XBleeding_EdgeX (432 posts) - - Show Bio

Donkey wrecks her... and then proceeds to steal shreks swamp

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#176 Posted by TheBlackHood (594 posts) - - Show Bio

*sigh* biased ass ww fantards and their "she takes this because she's in jl" bs

And you aren't a Marvel "fantard"? Look at your comment history and act like you're not just as biased.

@micah said:

@evil_incarnate said:

@micah said:

@uberhulk said:

@evil_incarnate: Whether Superman's ribs were injured is irrelevant. The Doomsday clone gradually got stronger. He was too strong for her at the beginning of the fight. It doesn't change the fact that with Stormbreaker BRB can hit a hell of a lot harder than Doomsday.

Finally her sword has always been able to cleave atoms this isn't something that's new to her New 52 character.

I'd like to see a reference.

Don't bother it was a stupid PIS feat that really doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make sense because you would prefer that it not?

Here's a scan from Kingdom Come that even references the fact that the sword can cut atoms

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As far as BRB hitting harder than Doomsday what proof do you have a of this? Even of we were to use ABC logic Superman has far greater feats of strength than BRB and Doomsday is stronger than Superman. So what has BRB done strength wise to suggest that he's stronger than Doomsday?

Thanks for posting a non-canon/alternate reality scan. My point still stands.

The Kingdom Come is out of Canon but if its been mentioned in other places your opinion of it being PIS doesn't really matter. It seems silly that you want to brush off an atom slicing sword but a world smashing hammer is completely reasonable.

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#177 Edited by Saint_Sophie (7263 posts) - - Show Bio

@deadcool_xd: Although it's only speculation it's arguable that if anyone in the DCU could lift Thor's and I guess BRB's hammer it would be Diana.

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#178 Edited by UberHulk (695 posts) - - Show Bio

@evil_incarnate: It sounds like you didn't read it. Here are the key parts.

Inside the temple, all the Amazons are in there as Diana, Hippolyta and Menalippe are on the altar. She tells them that this day will be remembered as the gods have honoured greatly and by the request of Apollo, Hippolyta and Diana have joined us. The three of them have been asked to appear in front of the gods on Mount Olympus and Menalippe asks her sisters to join them in prayer so that they can prepare for this meeting. The temple is then filled with echoes of chants and then lightning starts to form in the skies and the Amazons are in meditation. Then, a strike of thunder hits the altar and the three disappear.

Suddenly the sky is filled with white light and all the gods appear before them. Diana asks them what happened to Olympus and Hera replies that Darkseid has cut deep, and that some scars may never heal. But because of Olympus’ state, they feel they are ready for cosmic migration. They explain to the Amazons, even the ones down below that they have been chosen to assist in bringing about new order. The Amazons are puzzled by this and asks what this means. Hermes steps forward and tells Diana that it should be obvious to her as she too has felt abandonment from the gods. Zeus tells Hermes to keep quiet and that a decision has been made. Hermes tells them to speak the truth, with no cryptic messages, as they have served the gods for so long and in return the Amazons given destruction. Hercules then snaps at Hermes, telling him to stop scaring the Amazons. Hermes replies that perhaps the “brawny” one would like to explain how he plans to betray Hippolyta again. Hercules advances on Hermes, but Athena tells them to stop at once. Athena agrees with Hermes saying how they can continue to a better place when they ignored the people who have brought them here. Menalippe assures them that their faith is strong. Hippolyta agrees, saying that their decision will benefit them in the future. Hermes asks Diana what she thinks and reminds her that these are the gods who left her to deal with Circe alone. Hades says that it is Hermes who has done injustice to Diana, and Poseidon adds that the gods were sure that Diana would defeat Circe on her own. Diana then realises that it was Hermes who transported Circe away during the last minute of their battle.

Hippolyta, angry, steps forward and asks why they did not help her daughter. Athena explains that the cosmic migration is the only thing that matters right now, and until a new order is established, no contact between the human and gods can happen. Diana then asks why they have been summoned here. Hermes replies that they need to destroy the mountain they once saved and they want the Amazons to help in their desertion of the worshippers. They choose the queen to decide, but she replies that it is not her choice, but their choice. Through Apollo’s orb, hundreds of Amazon faces look up and Hippolyta calls for their vote. Their bracelets clink together and Hippolyta turns to the gods say that the Amazons will always stand by them. Hippolyta then asks Hercules what is going to happen and he explains that he can still have faith in the gods and ironically, Hippolyta says that they are praying for the death of the mountain. Hercules replies that the mountain is dying, and it will only do them good if it was destroyed, once and for all.

In summary. Athena wants cosmic migration, which I believe occurs after Mount Olympus is destroyed, Hermes wants the mountain destroyed, they take a vote. If you read the scans :

Zeus "Are you ready Diana?"

WW "Yes Lord Zeus"

What's your explanation for Zeus asking her is she was ready??!? They agreed they needed to destroy Mount Olympus so they channelled their powers, focused a fireball at her, which looks no more than 10 ft wide, and she deflected it to destroy Mount Olympus. Not exactly the same as a wide blast of lightning.

@zhurong That's a focused attack not a wide attack. If the attack is too large to block she takes the impact and then she's boned.

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#179 Posted by reaverlation (25767 posts) - - Show Bio

Diana

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#180 Edited by Wolfrazer (15994 posts) - - Show Bio

@evil_incarnate: Hm...well then....oh ok so it was something that they all agreed upon....I just thought it was just because...ok.

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#181 Posted by deadcool_XD (2503 posts) - - Show Bio

@deadcool_xd: Although it's only speculation it's arguable that if anyone in the DCU could lift Thor's and I guess BRB's hammer it would be Diana.

Diana is no where near worthy to lift thor's hammer, shes done some bad things before, its the DC universe everyone's done bad things, that why its good.

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#182 Posted by Evil-Incarnate (6956 posts) - - Show Bio

@uberhulk said:

@evil_incarnate: It sounds like you didn't read it. Here are the key parts.

Inside the temple, all the Amazons are in there as Diana, Hippolyta and Menalippe are on the altar. She tells them that this day will be remembered as the gods have honoured greatly and by the request of Apollo, Hippolyta and Diana have joined us. The three of them have been asked to appear in front of the gods on Mount Olympus and Menalippe asks her sisters to join them in prayer so that they can prepare for this meeting. The temple is then filled with echoes of chants and then lightning starts to form in the skies and the Amazons are in meditation. Then, a strike of thunder hits the altar and the three disappear.

Suddenly the sky is filled with white light and all the gods appear before them. Diana asks them what happened to Olympus and Hera replies that Darkseid has cut deep, and that some scars may never heal. But because of Olympus’ state, they feel they are ready for cosmic migration. They explain to the Amazons, even the ones down below that they have been chosen to assist in bringing about new order. The Amazons are puzzled by this and asks what this means. Hermes steps forward and tells Diana that it should be obvious to her as she too has felt abandonment from the gods. Zeus tells Hermes to keep quiet and that a decision has been made. Hermes tells them to speak the truth, with no cryptic messages, as they have served the gods for so long and in return the Amazons given destruction. Hercules then snaps at Hermes, telling him to stop scaring the Amazons. Hermes replies that perhaps the “brawny” one would like to explain how he plans to betray Hippolyta again. Hercules advances on Hermes, but Athena tells them to stop at once. Athena agrees with Hermes saying how they can continue to a better place when they ignored the people who have brought them here. Menalippe assures them that their faith is strong. Hippolyta agrees, saying that their decision will benefit them in the future. Hermes asks Diana what she thinks and reminds her that these are the gods who left her to deal with Circe alone. Hades says that it is Hermes who has done injustice to Diana, and Poseidon adds that the gods were sure that Diana would defeat Circe on her own. Diana then realises that it was Hermes who transported Circe away during the last minute of their battle.

Hippolyta, angry, steps forward and asks why they did not help her daughter. Athena explains that the cosmic migration is the only thing that matters right now, and until a new order is established, no contact between the human and gods can happen. Diana then asks why they have been summoned here. Hermes replies that they need to destroy the mountain they once saved and they want the Amazons to help in their desertion of the worshippers. They choose the queen to decide, but she replies that it is not her choice, but their choice. Through Apollo’s orb, hundreds of Amazon faces look up and Hippolyta calls for their vote. Their bracelets clink together and Hippolyta turns to the gods say that the Amazons will always stand by them. Hippolyta then asks Hercules what is going to happen and he explains that he can still have faith in the gods and ironically, Hippolyta says that they are praying for the death of the mountain. Hercules replies that the mountain is dying, and it will only do them good if it was destroyed, once and for all.

In summary. Athena wants cosmic migration, which I believe occurs after Mount Olympus is destroyed, Hermes wants the mountain destroyed, they take a vote. If you read the scans :

Zeus "Are you ready Diana?"

WW "Yes Lord Zeus"

What's your explanation for Zeus asking her is she was ready??!? They agreed they needed to destroy Mount Olympus so they channelled their powers, created a fireball and she deflected it to destroy Mount Olympus.

@zhurong That's a focused attack not a wide attack. If the attack is too large to block she takes the impact and then she's boned.

That's literally what happened. They asked her if she was ready to deflect the attack nothing more nothing less. Where are you getting all of this extra she was amped garbage? Furthermore if you actually read the scan or the reference you provided it literally says the only two things amped were the Gods from the prayers of the Amazons and the actual attack once it was deflected by Wonder Woman.

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#183 Posted by Saint_Sophie (7263 posts) - - Show Bio

@uberhulk: From the summary and scans it still doesn't look like she was being "amped", and I have no clue where you got that conclusion.

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#184 Posted by Evil-Incarnate (6956 posts) - - Show Bio

@saint_sophie:

@evil_incarnate: Hm...well then....oh ok so it was something that they all agreed upon....I just thought it was just because...ok.

They wanted to leave Earth and decided to destroy Olympus, but needed enough power to do so. So then the Amazons pray to them empowering them while Zeus explains the properties of WW's bracelets and how they were forged and that they can multiply any attack it deflects and then has her do so to their combined power to multiply it and thus destroy Mount Olympus. It's literally written all right there in both the scans posted on the previous page and in the reference Uberhulk provided. I'm not sure where people are getting all of this other nonsense.

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#185 Edited by Saint_Sophie (7263 posts) - - Show Bio

@evil_incarnate: Okay, that makes sense.

@deadcool_xd said:

@saint_sophie said:

@deadcool_xd: Although it's only speculation it's arguable that if anyone in the DCU could lift Thor's and I guess BRB's hammer it would be Diana.

Diana is no where near worthy to lift thor's hammer, shes done some bad things before, its the DC universe everyone's done bad things, that why its good.

Wait.. what?

And secondly Thor and the Marvel Universe ain't perfect either.

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#186 Edited by tparks (11807 posts) - - Show Bio

Some great debates. BRB has this though IMO.

Next week, can we please have Wonder Woman vs this guy???

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Please, please, please use Invincible next week!!!

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#187 Posted by UberHulk (695 posts) - - Show Bio

@saint_sophie: No she wasn't amped but the fireball wasn't intended to kill her either. It helps if you give context instead of just posting scans. Normally I'd read the comic but the last thing I want to do is ready anything by Perez.

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#188 Edited by PowerWoman (3639 posts) - - Show Bio

BRB was more powerful

He can destroy planets,withstand planet buster,survive sun

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Wonder woman isnt survive planet explosion or destroy planets

So,BRB>Wonder woman

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#189 Posted by PowerWoman (3639 posts) - - Show Bio

@uberhulk: Wonder woman best feat is moving earth and moon

Could be that match BRB?though she isnt planet buster

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#190 Posted by agent41 (15045 posts) - - Show Bio

@uberhulk: Wonder woman best feat is moving earth and moon

Could be that match BRB?though she isnt planet buster

Wonder Woman has survived full powered attacks from Zeus,Ares,etc who are planet busters.

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#191 Posted by agent41 (15045 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman.

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#192 Edited by micah007123 (10836 posts) - - Show Bio

@theblackhood said:
@blackice709 said:

*sigh* biased ass ww fantards and their "she takes this because she's in jl" bs

And you aren't a Marvel "fantard"? Look at your comment history and act like you're not just as biased.

@micah said:

@evil_incarnate said:

@micah said:

@uberhulk said:

@evil_incarnate: Whether Superman's ribs were injured is irrelevant. The Doomsday clone gradually got stronger. He was too strong for her at the beginning of the fight. It doesn't change the fact that with Stormbreaker BRB can hit a hell of a lot harder than Doomsday.

Finally her sword has always been able to cleave atoms this isn't something that's new to her New 52 character.

I'd like to see a reference.

Don't bother it was a stupid PIS feat that really doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make sense because you would prefer that it not?

Here's a scan from Kingdom Come that even references the fact that the sword can cut atoms

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As far as BRB hitting harder than Doomsday what proof do you have a of this? Even of we were to use ABC logic Superman has far greater feats of strength than BRB and Doomsday is stronger than Superman. So what has BRB done strength wise to suggest that he's stronger than Doomsday?

Thanks for posting a non-canon/alternate reality scan. My point still stands.

The Kingdom Come is out of Canon but if its been mentioned in other places your opinion of it being PIS doesn't really matter. It seems silly that you want to brush off an atom slicing sword but a world smashing hammer is completely reasonable.

It's still non-canon regardless of what you say. I brush off her atom slicing sword because we have seen no indication of that sort of power in any of the canon except that one PIS moment. Meanwhile we have seen the power of BRB from day one, and have seen his hammer bust planets multiple times. Please bore someone else with your unfounded opinions.

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#193 Posted by SpawnOfGod (122 posts) - - Show Bio

@uberhulk said:

@spawnofgod: Talk is cheap. You couldn't debunk if you tried. She has one good strength feat. In terms of durability feats she cannot block attacks wider than the sphere of her body. He bracelets can only block focused attacks.

Here a complete jobber, Blue Ice, hurts her with lightning. Wonder Woman 154

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In Wonder Woman 219 Superman flies her into the sun. She's gets scared up.

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In Wonder Woman 221, two issues later, and bear in mind who good her healing is, she is still scared.

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That's ONE sun, not the power of 1000 suns. Her Tiara is a non factor, she cut Superman because of his magic weakness. It's her New 52 sword that cuts at an atomic level. Her speed advantage? Doomsday isn't fast at all, he's a brawler. He thrashed her. Wonder Woman 111

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Wonder Woman 112. Champion saves her from death, a scientist helps her beat Doomsday by making him seize up.

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@militaryman: Her New 52 sword cuts at atomic level not her PC sword.

so much wrong. its hard to even start with all your nonsense.

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#194 Edited by Saint_Sophie (7263 posts) - - Show Bio

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@saint_sophie: No she wasn't amped but the fireball wasn't intended to kill her either. It helps if you give context instead of just posting scans. Normally I'd read the comic but the last thing I want to do is read anything by Perez.

Eh, I posted the scan of her blocking the Olympian fireball because someone asked for it. It also seems to be a well-known bracelet feat so yeah. By the way:

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@wolfrazer: Yep. It's actually post crisis but she was amped by all the Greek Gods.

http://www.comicvine.com/wonder-woman-21-the-cosmic-migration/4000-30151/

The Amazons below are chanting their prayers and the gods can feel electricity surging through and with the gods combined energy, Diana will have to block it with her bracelets. When she does deflect it, it will make contact with Amaltheia's legacy and it will create a bolt that must be directed to the three Gods’ crossed sceptres. With the chorus of prayer, a flame begins to create itself and through the cracks of the mountain as it heads directly for her and with her bracelets, she deflects it towards the three sceptres. It strikes, and the force is amplified. Diana strains as her skin begins to crack and blister. Finally, the mountain succumbs and Mount Olympus explodes with a blinding white light.

You were the one who said that she was amped.

Oh and why won't you read anything by Perez?

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#195 Posted by SpawnOfGod (122 posts) - - Show Bio

@uberhulk said:

@spawnofgod: Talk is cheap. You couldn't debunk if you tried. She has one good strength feat. In terms of durability feats she cannot block attacks wider than the sphere of her body. He bracelets can only block focused attacks.

Here a complete jobber, Blue Ice, hurts her with lightning. Wonder Woman 154

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In Wonder Woman 219 Superman flies her into the sun. She's gets scared up.

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In Wonder Woman 221, two issues later, and bear in mind who good her healing is, she is still scared.

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That's ONE sun, not the power of 1000 suns. Her Tiara is a non factor, she cut Superman because of his magic weakness. It's her New 52 sword that cuts at an atomic level. Her speed advantage? Doomsday isn't fast at all, he's a brawler. He thrashed her. Wonder Woman 111

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Wonder Woman 112. Champion saves her from death, a scientist helps her beat Doomsday by making him seize up.

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@militaryman: Her New 52 sword cuts at atomic level not her PC sword.

I need to clean up a lot of this.

  • Firstly Superman's ribs were still injured after fighting Wonder Woman (getting scans now)
  • Secondly your Doomsday scan is flawed. That's not even the real Doomsday, but a clone that was stronger than the original. The male scientist in those scans accidentally killed his son and tried to remake him using a computer. The child's subconsciousness was creating things out of nothing. It created a version of the Flash that Wonder Woman had to capture and then ended up creating this version of Doomsday and it kept getting stronger because the child kept increasing its power, which is why Hercules literally says "It's getting stronger with each step." and is further proven when the scientist even say that it is, which is why WW had to use the gauntlets of Atlas to increase her own strength 10x.
  • Finally her sword has always been able to cleave atoms this isn't something that's new to her New 52 character.

This. just so much wrong with your posts uberhulk. it seems like you dont know what youre talking about and just google images and post them without knowing whats going on in them.

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#196 Posted by SpawnOfGod (122 posts) - - Show Bio

@saint_sophie said:

@deadcool_xd: Thanks..? I guess she did say it stung a little, but lightning won't affect her the same way bullets or piercing objects do.

Well, in that case, all bill has to do is pin her down lay the hammer on her so she cant get up and take her down.

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this is quite literally one of the funniest ideas around. all the person in the bottom has to do is destroy the ground and get out through the ground....

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#197 Posted by Kjy (6 posts) - - Show Bio

BRB is planet buster WW isn't! So BRB wins this fight, simple as that...

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#198 Posted by GHoST2130 (36 posts) - - Show Bio

I am not sure what the scan about Wonder Girl's lasso means, yes, the lasso channels Zeus's lighting but there are two problems with that meaning anything. First, the force of the lightning produced by the lasso is proportional to Wonder Girl's anger. Second, it simply channels Zeus's lightning, there is no way that weapon produces anywhere close to the power of Zeus, Zeus likes being the strongest there is no way he would allow a weapon to exist that channels anywhere close to his full power. I feel like its a safe assumption that Beta Ray Bill can produce lightning several orders of magnitude more powerful than a weapon that is somewhat connected to Zeus.

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#199 Posted by CosmicOldGuy (144 posts) - - Show Bio

Great match up - but it was said earlier, BRB beat Thor without Asgardian powers - give him Stormbreaker and all of Thor's powers and he is a beast. Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of Diana but I think the Asgard Horse Man will take this.

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#200 Edited by SpawnOfGod (122 posts) - - Show Bio

@zhurong said:

She was able to tank attacks from Nekron (the same guy that beat Spectre and Anti-Monitor into submission):

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