Battle of the Week VOTING: Cyclops vs. Nightwing & Robin

Cyclops.

oh damn... didnt expect that. ima back Cyke though i could see Nightwing pulling something off.

Honestly he should be fighting Nightwing on his own. Adding Damien to the mix is just unfair. Cyke is going to blast a kid full on.

I think Dick's body ready skills are going to put to good use here. I see this fight going mainly Grayson vs Summers, with Grayson keeping Cyke busy while Damien readies the finishing blow from the shadows.

Now if this was open area then the majority would definitely go to Scott, but the playground is too perfect for the dynamic duo.

Cyclops.....He beat the X-Men Once or twice so two skilled guys might not be a problem.....but i can see nightwing pull a win somehow

Disagree. I think it would be an uphill fight for Nightwing if he was solo (not saying he can't win or give Cyclops trouble, I just think it's a big challenge for him). Adding Damian makes it far more interesting and adds more variables. Much more to think about ;)

guy just took a majority over Wolverine... Cyke would take down Nightwing easily.

@hushofthewind: The two on one really puts an interesting twist on this. Nightwing alone would be a great threat to Cyke, and he and Damien make a great team together in a fight... Gonna have to mull this one over a bit.

Oh gawd. Two strong favorites of mine.....I have to chew on this for a couple days.

@nickthedevil: I know, right? I'll be hitting up the respective DC and Marvel wikis over the next few days and going over some stuff.

I think if it was Dick and Tim, Cyke would win. Since its Dick a Damian, they are really good team together. So I am going to have to say Nightwing and Robin.

dont get me wrong i Hate Cyclops and theres nothing id like more than to see him lose but the feats have to be there for him to lose. the feats arent here in this case.

I'm thinking the duo may have this but barely but ill get back to this

he did NOT take a majority over Wolverine.

Too many Cyclops fanboys on here haha

Pretty interesting battle...

My initial feeling is to go with the team on this one. Nightwing by himself would be able to give Cyclops trouble in this scenario, but then give him a teammate as skilled as Damien? Well, I just think Cyke is going to be in trouble. Also, he doesn't know these two like he knows Wolverine (who was only one opponent to worry about as opposed to two), so he's going to be testing the waters a bit to start, which means more time for Dick and Damien to form a winning strategy. Damien can distract while Nightwing closes in from behind, or vice versa.

I need to think on this one a little more, but right now I'm giving the edge to D & D.

Cyclops.

If your adding damian to the mix its pretty much batman and robin vs cyclops right?

WOULD Cyclops fire his optic blast against a kid? That's what I'm mainly worried about...

Oh, Damian? Come on that kid is crazy and will go for the kill, Cyke ain't like that and both of them are gonna be a lot of distraction.

@viin: pretty much, yes. Since Dick and Damien time as Batman and Robin is still canon.

lol what an excellent debate with facts and scans and good arguments. lol

YEAH he did. regardless of how you feel it happened. also regardless how you feel Nightwing would take maybe 3/10 over Cyke (and im being generous)

Oooooh. this is tough. I'd say Cyke could take Nightwing in a very close match. But then Damian is running around there.

The main issue is that Cyke is holding back because they're human(as far as he knows) and i don't think he would even fire his eyes at a kid so Damian is likely to get close. Unlike Wolverine the issue isn't going to be how he will pull out when he fires....it's whether he will fire at one of his opponents at all, and if he can even catch the other even with rebound blast. Scott's eyes are tied behind his back in this one.

He wouldn't go all out, but I see no reason why he wouldn't be willing to defend himself with a blast that's just powerful enough to knock an opponent out. I'm guessing it'll be established pretty swiftly that Damian isn't someone he should underestimate.

In the poll last week he did. Barely IIRC.

Your using ABC logic. Nightwing may not be as tough or skilled as wolverine but he is more acrobatic and he's isn't slow. Not saying nightwing solos but I wouldn't say cyclops beats wolverine therefore he beats nightwing. Nightwing is bringing different skills and abilities to the fight as opposed to wolverine.

@jashro44: he may be more acrobatic but in terms of who's actually faster Wolverine still takes the cake. not sure why Cyke would have any trouble taggin Nightwing when hes tagged considerably faster opponents

Specially if he somehow finds out these guys were trained by The Batman, who has already bested Cykes in a previous battle :P

I love this fight choice. This will be a very interesting battle for Summers. Grayson and Wayne are so well trained in various tactics that they have basically become in sync during battles, one fighting the opponent while the other studies his/her movements and weaknesses in order to prepare a thorough plan of attack. However, Scott will most likely see through this strategy and will use his energy blasts to take out both opponents. Big mistake on his part. Grayson and Wayne will most likely use their gadgets such as smoke pellets or some sort of projectile adhesive to temporarily blind the X-man. During his moment of weakness, both boys will use their knowledge of multiple martial arts and pressure points to quickly render the mutant unconscious before he has time to recover. Leaving them the winner of this fight.

Because nightwing has his own ranged weaponry, and all though he isn't as good as cyclops is in accuracy he can use his batarangs to pin cyclops behind cover to get in close.

Cyclops is good but he can't keep up with two of the best acrobats in DC Universe.

Nightwing and Damian are a pretty great team. I feel like they should be able to take cyclops but it won't be easy.

Got to go with night-wing and robin here. The thing I'm worried about for cyclops is that he's been tagged by daredevil and that's who I consider nightwing to be about equal to. Don't get me wrong I like cyclops and he's no slouch in hand to hand but he would lose to dick in hth. Damian however makes it interesting if he were to get tagged I feel like nw wouldn't be able to concentrate but that's the problem with this being in character cyclops is gonna go for nightwing first because he doesn't want to kill the kid. I think cyclops could hold nw back temporarily but if Damian is flanking him what good will that do. And if he goes hand to hand with Damian (be won't go for the direct blast at most he will try to hit around him) he won't usually win. And even if he does what good will that do when there's no doubt that dick will be right there. Team 8.5/10

Easily Dick and Damien. Just one of them would put up a fight, but both?? both are two of the best hand to hand combatants, both are stealth masters, and both have tons of gadgets to use, I don't see Scott walking away from this one.

First things first, beating Wolverine by 2% in a poll doesn't mean he would actually take a majority. I didn't take place in last week's vote, but it doesn't mean he definitively wins.

Secondly you can't compare the head on approach of Wolverine to the stealth and acrobatics of Dick and Damien. They fight completely differently. It isn't about Wolverine being more skilled or tougher, it's about how he fights.

Not to mention Cyclops is VERY familiar with Logan and knows he can hit him full bore and Logan will survive. He knows nothing about Nightwing and Robin (no prior knowledge) so why would he open up as hard? I don't see last week's fight being comparable to this one at all.

As for who would win? I think I'll ponder that one a bit.

I hate Cyclops more than any other character, possibly in the whole of comicdom, but I really cant see hime losing this fight. He can tag enemies with super speed, he can take both these characters out with one hit, maybe even the same shot with a ricochet shot. Plus if th vine thinks he han hold his own in combat with wolverine, whats Nightwing gonna do?

I think Damian will give him more trouble being as he is willing to kill and the fact that he is a child may make Cyk hesitate, but I think the annoying douche that is the one eyed monster will win.

Cyclops for sure, not only will he take at least one of the two with his optic blasts from a distance, but I'm confident in Scott's abilities in hand to hand combat.

hes not like Batman he doesnt use his tech as often as he should he relies far more on his physicals

I'll have to give this to Nightwing and Robin for a few reasons. They have worked together for a while and there is a lot of respect between them, that means a lot in terms of trust and teamwork. Damian has been trained by the League of Assassin's and both of them have been trained by Batman. They're both good at range and up close combat. Nightwing has great speed and acrobatics, plus they have numbers on their side. I do know that Cyclops can do quite a bit, is a great strategist, but so is Damian, and we've seen that Damian will fight to the death. I'm not sure Cyclops would go all out on Damian and most likely would underestimate him. Nightwing would go for the knockout, but I'm sure if push came to shove, Damian would be the only one going for the kill. You just need Nightwing to distract Cyke, and Damian would take him out.

I think Nightwing and Robin take this one.

Point one: when Scott sees Robin is a kid he's going to tone down the blasts, and that's just the edge they would need.

Point two: When Nightwing and Robin see Scotts eye blasts they will go in full stealth mode and with the their skills and the amount of cover Scott doesn't stand a chance.

Love Nightwing, but I'm going with Cyclops.

No need to be delusional here.. We have two proficient acrobats that are trained by one of DC's best tacticians. Not to mention both are equipped impressively as well.

Most straightforward way Dick and Damian can win is that one of them, (preferably Dick) keeps Scott busy using his agility by leaping around and avoiding optic blasts (which I think Dick is perfectly capable of) while Damian simply darts Scott in the head with a projectile from far away or sneaks up on him and takes him out.

Up close, I doubt Scott can beat either in h2h.. Well, maybe he can hang with Damian but Nightwing would make a short work of him.

Not to mention Nightwing by himself could also have chances of sneaking in to Scott or just avoiding his blasts and then pummeling his face in with an escrima throw from cover.

Both of the duo are tacticians just like Scott, and I don't see them losing as long as they play their cards right and utilize each other correctly.

The duo for a 8/10 win.

Eh...Leaning towards Team Birdboys

Dick & Damian's first move would be to take out the lights. Scott's #1 fear is not being able to see where he's firing.

I don't see this as a contest, Nightwing stomps on his own

This is a hard one. The guy who can make things explode just by looking at them vs the trained to perfection students of the Bat. Nightwing's chatter might be enough to distract Cyclops while Damian can do the whole stab him in the back bit, but Scott would be expecting it. Scott is a brilliant tactician and would make to counter the Dynamic Duo but Nightwing is a fan of improvisation which is hard to predict, let alone counter. Cyclops is used to working in a team setting or fighting one on one. Fighting one against two, acrobats and trained fighters that are fairly decent tacticians themselves (well, at least one of them are,) is enough to level the playing field.

Unlike Wolverine, these two can fight at a range. Batarangs, smoke grenades, explosives, swords, tasers, etc. In order to win, Nightwing and Robin have to divide his attention, bombard him with attacks in a guerrilla warfare style because attacking him close up and staying there is dangerous to their health. They are expert hand to hand combatants, but their best bet is to keep moving.

Damian might fall due to overconfidence, in which case Nightwing has to take Cyclops on, blind him if he can, and hit him hard. Key phrase is "If he can". If Nightwing gets tagged saving Damian from Cyclops, then Damian is going to give Cyclops some major pain before the Boy Wonder goes down for the count too. Taking down one of the two might give Cyclops the momentum he needs to finish this fight. Or it could motivate one of the two to step up their game and put the mutant leader down.

Because its one on two, I give it to the sons of Batman. But if Cyclops manages to tag one of them (most likely Damian, or Dick saving Damian's ass) then depending on who it is, it can go either way.

I will give it to the Dynamic Duo.Two heads are better than one and in this case these two could do it.

Using smoke screens to keep him blind to get inside and tag him.

To Sleeping gas or Sleeping dart from distant.

To Cyclops inc character underestimate Damain and see that he is a kid and would not try to hurt him which would be his downfall

Scott best shot is to the tag the duo with his blast once they are exposed.We all know that from training with Batman there is no way one robin is going to get shot and the other try a frontal assault on him once they see his power.So Scott best chance of a win is a Mega Optic Blast taking out both at the same time.

awwww man, my fave character from marvel vs my number 1 (nightwing) and 5 (robin) from dc

i need to give this some serious thought

Well that's stretching it.. Nightwing is agile enough to leap around Scott's blasts, but without Damian I don't think he can close in enough to get a hit in. He gets shot once and it is pretty much over for him.

Dick can keep Scott busy if he ONLY focuses on evading his blasts. But focusing on both evading, and attacking Scott, chances of him doing that on his own are quite low...

Together the duo can win. But individually, none of them can even gain a majority against let alone stomp Scott.

Cyclops will give them a stern talking-to and they will be off on their way.

Hard one.

Cyke could theoretically go with a wide open--but low power--blast to knock them both out at once, but if they go right into cover they could theoretically dodge. Unlike Wolverine, he could KO them in one hit, if he hits.

Not to beat a dead horse, but targeted beams that can be dodged are not his only option, he can go with a 90+ degree beam that is NOT overpowered for fighting baseline humans, and would be pretty hard to dodge:

They could split up an attack from two directions, which would make it harder--although Cyke could also theoretically shoot a glancing blast that bounces around and hits both of them in one beam (optimally, not counting dodging).

They have good ranged attacks too, and with more variety (gas etc.).

Regarding whether Cyke would shoot at Damien at all, he can control the intensity of his blasts, so he can certainly hit him with just enough power to knock him out. I don't think that's a problem.

Even if they get up close to melee range, he can still continue to shoot his blast, as he did in his Schism fight with Wolverine. So he can fight with his H2H skills (which are definitely lower than Nightwing's) while still blasting out--that's a hard combo to beat.

I think gas/sonics may be the team's best bet, not sure who has the majority though.

I'll think about this one.