Battle of the week: Thanos vs The Justice League

This week we have arguably the strongest Teambuster in Mavel take on DC's most famous team of superheros. With Thanos the Mad Titan taking on the Justice League of America

Voting

Also a quick announcement but we will be doing voting differently from now on. Recently we have had issues with individuals rigging the polls so we are changing the format. There are 3 "experts" and they will read the debate to determine who put up a better argument and this will be the "experts" winner.

There is also the comicvine community winner which is the winner which will be determined by the majority of you. You will vote which character you want to win battle of the week. Make sure you type your vote at the bottom of your post in header 2 font. Also if you are voting make sure your argument is at least 3 sentences.

Rules

• Combatants are in character.
• This is a random encounter (no prep for either side) and both characters have standard gear. Justice League are Pre 52 and Thanos is current.
• They're fighting in a generic city setting. It takes place during the day and they start roughly 100 feet apart and visible. Everything in the city (let's say the city is the size of Manhattan and surrounded by ocean) is on limits.
• Incapacitation, knockout, BFR (battlefield removal, which means knocking someone so far away that the fight cannot continue in the very near future) or death all count as elimination. Making a tactical retreat counts as a loss, too. "What's a tactical retreat?" It's leaving the fight with the intention of not returning to the battle in the immediate future. Going to another spot in the environment to catch your breath for a moment or two or for a tactical advantage is not a tactical retreat.
• Treating everyone else in the debate with respect is a sign of a good debater. If you think someone's saying something that just isn't true, go ahead and stick to the facts to point out why. There's no need at all to drop insults just because you disagree with someone. This is just talking about a fictional fight, there's no need for immaturity and mudslinging about fan fic.
• If you think the votes aren't going how they should, making an informative post about why a character is being underestimated and spreading the word is far more useful than complaining.
• One more thing: you don't need to write an essay to have your post highlighted in Friday's article. Sometimes concise posts can be way more effective than a flood of paragraphs. Viner posts that stand out will be included at the end.
• Votes last till late Friday, and the votes will be posted in the OP to see where combatants stand by Friday. Votes do not determine who wins, only who the majority at the time sides with.

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There are way too many powerhouses for Thanos to beat. Flash solos. The JL is not the JL without Batman.

Justice League wins

I think we both know that the league can't win this, is not neccessarily a stomp but Thanos wins 10/10.

Pretty bad line up tbh.

This is a random encounter (no prep for either side) and both characters have standard gear. For Black Panther that is his vibbranium suit, kimoyo, energy daggers, and anti-metal claws. Spider-man has standard assortment of web-shooters and webbing, cap has his shield, and daredevil has his billy club.

Spider-Man,Cap, DD, and Black Panther aren't in this.

@thewatcherking: Fixed.

@thekinfing: The actual JL would have been more fair (Bats, GL, Aquaman, Supes, WW and the Flash with TP off). No team in Marvel has a line up with this many powerhouses tbh.

EDIT: Except for the Annihilators.

Thanos

@thekinfing: Need to bold your vote like KH did. New policy.

As for the line up. Well we went for the most recognizable names, bar batman. Also this is has arguably the strongest members. Only exception being Dr Fate.

@shirso: Gotta put that in header 2 and give 3 reasons why.

@king_hellstorm: Ok, I will soon.

IDK Arthur Mid tier with these other High tiers seems out of Place.

Cap Marvel is debatably weaker than Superman and Wonder Woman with most feats that don't involve him matching superman being pretty okay.

I Love Barry but Wally's defiantly Superior combatively IMO.

I think Thanos wins though the JL give him a pretty good fight than what he's use too when he's team busting. Add Captain Atom and (MAYBE) Doctor fate instead of Shazam and Aquaman and it could be a bit more possible.

@oldkingthanos: Didn't read that part, will edit my comment.

Also there are multiple other members that are much stronger, Kyle Rayner, John, Captain Atom, Zatanna, Dr.Fate, not trying to derail the thread so this will be the last comment regarding this but have a more powerful roster would make this alot more competive.

@king_hellstorm:This team is much better than the Annihilators.

@thekinfing: Technically. But it has too many bricks.

Not really. His trident was the one that pieced DS.

EDIT: Also

the team has only one character with planetary level destructive output and one boyscout with moon level destructive output,which are not enough to flinch thanos let alone ko him.the rest won't be doing jack to him.

thanos stomps.

Thanos wins this, no one here can put him down physically, Martian manhunter and his TP is the teams best hope, and even then thanos has tp feats to at least resist him long enough to take him out. The majority of the team gets one or two shot while barry runs around doing absolutely nothing to thanos.

Thanos tears them apart in a one sided battle. Just pick which ones he chooses first. I'd imagine he'd go after Diana, tear her spine out then Superman and Billy. Then the others go down even quicker.

Also inb4 someone says Flash or Superman solos. We know it's coming.

@king_hellstorm said:

Not really. His trident was the one that pieced DS.

EDIT: Also

That's PIS plus Namor broke his hand doing that irrc.

@king_hellstorm said:

@thekinfing: Technically. But it has too many bricks.

@stormshadow_x said:

IDK Arthur Mid tier with these other High tiers seems out of Place.

Not really. His trident was the one that pieced DS.

Sure but if Darkseid or Thanos in this instance really wanted to Arthur would defiantly be the easiest to take out, He lacks the Speed and Durability. I love Arthur but while he did pierce Darkseid (Darkseid as a whole Post Crisis or new 52 is a pretty weird character to put tier wise IMO) I don't see him doing much with the other JL members having to pick up his slack and hopefully saved him from getting killed

EDIT: Also

That was a sucker punch and while I don't buy into to the Thanos Overhype, He's taken worse from more impressive characters.

J'onn and Hal last the longest but Ultimately Thanos fodderizes Herald Tier characters (like Surfer, Bill) and this team only has 2 relevant factors.

but i see we've already started the lowballing of Thanos... next you need to post Thanos vs the Ultimates we can completely throw context and common sense out the window.

Thanos wins

Do you believe in pimp slaps?

@thewatcherking: PIS? PIS!? It is truth, here is why.

Why Thanos loses

Durability

Gets hurt by Namor who BP stomps.

Speed

Oh please, this kid outspeeds him. How's he gonna tag the Flash?

Strength

NYPD overpowers him

Energy Projection

Get wrecked by a dog fam

General Power

Beaten by Squirrel Girl

Teambusting

He gets dog piled by mid tiers and Hulk

Gallery

In conclusion

Too slow

I'm taking the man who has beat Silver Surfer to death in a few hits, almost effortlessly.

Thanos wrecks

I'm going to make a post soon

I guess I might play Devil's advocate for this one

Thanos

Reasons:

1) Thanos' durability is much higher than what the team is capable of. His energy durability is well renowned, so I don't see people like Hal and Orion doing much. He no sold repeated blasts of Thor's magic lightning so Black Adam isn't a problem as well. For physicals, he has taken hits from PG insane Thor so Superman or Diana's punches wouldn't be enough. Thanos should be able to resist Jon's TP as well given how he has repeatedly beaten psionic powerhouses like mind gem Moondragon and Classic Drax in the past. In fact probing Thanos' mind might prove to be disastrous to Jon himself.

2) Thanos can 1-2 shot most people here. A weakened Thanos roasted Cancerverse Hulk to a crisp. Physically he has been able to beat Surfer to death in a few hits. Nobody here has durability or healing factor significantly exceeding Hulk or Norrin.

3) Thanos' overall versatility. His forcefields should be at least planetary against physical force, and much higher, like galaxy level against energy attacks. He also has AoE blasts which would take out the weaker members like Arthur. He can trap people in energy blocks like he did to Odin, PG Thor and Stormbreaker, all much stronger than the team.

@shirso: good post

@apex_pretador: Thanks :)

Team finds a way to win. Prove that Thanos can contend with this many people at once.

Lolololol

Thanos. None of them really have the damage output to put him down or even cause him some annoyance.

Thanos but the JL wont be going down without a fight. They will definitely leave their mark on the Mad Titan.

current thanos?!

@jashro44

INB4 Flash "solo force" comes in at full effect. Thanos wins.

Thanos wins, here's why

They cannot put Thanos down

Thor is bloodlusted and amped by madness

Feats of stomping both Surfer and Warlock, and stomping BRB. Also Confirmation (both on panel and by authors)

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Now, Thor gets the power gem and fights Thanos

Part 1: Thanos doesn't take Thor seriously

Thor gets teleported to Thanos's home. Thanos blasts him once, and thinks he's done, but remember Thor got TWO powerups including the POWER GEM. The mad titan opens up shields, and tries to handle Thor casually, but Thor is able to land some hits, because Thanos is caught off-guard by the new-found power of Thor.

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Thanos smiles and shrugged it all, a beatdown from an amped, bloodlusted power gem Thor.

Part 2: Thanos takes Thor seriously:

Thanos SPECIFICALLY mentions that now he seriously starts fighting.

He harms Thor with his punches, and starts fighting evenly. Infact, Thanos has a brief advantage if anything: (Thanos landed 4 hits compared thor landing 3)

Both of them harmed each other, neither was winning.

Gallery

Order is right to left

Part 3: Thanos gets bored:

Gallery

Thanos specifically mentions THRICE that he got bored of it, that's why he sealed off Thor, not because he was in any danger of losing. He actually goes to have a 15 page long battle with Odin

Remember that even unamped Thor hits harder than anyone else. And PG Thor was capable of one-shotting surfer just by throwing his hammer.

That proves that all of JL can't put him down with their blows

Or with any of their attacks

Including TP

.

Gallery

This is Galactus, who was able to stomp Thanos in TP, yet Thanos is good enough to escape his telepathic death grip

Thanos's own telepathy is powerful enough to stomp casual planetary telepaths

But Thanos can put them down:

Casually beats surfer to death with a few punches

Surfer is more durable than anyone here, and Thanos killed him with a few punches

Then thanos has also killed immortal characters (Weakened Thanos one-shot vaporizes cancerverse Hulk while being unable to even stand properly)

Cancerverse hulk was able to no-sell Quasar's blasts

Even unamped Hulk would be more durable than anyone except Superman here.

Also, the fight with PG Thor I've already posted above shows his striking strength

Thanos one-shotted this construct so good luck green lantern.

Tagging flash?

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Thanos and his armor's equipment can percieve and react to the runner with space gem. Runner is the fastest being in marvel universe, faster than even Silver Surfer and that's without the space gem.

And the only reason he didn't actually tag runner is because he was subconsciously manipuatling spacetime itself. The space gem is capable of giving a character omnipresence.

And flash's movements are extremely predictable. He has been tagged by Superman, Despero, green lanterns, and even deathstroke. I don't see why Thanos, who is smarter than them all, cannot tag him.

Oh, and he can use AoE attacks

Thanos has also tagged a speeding surfer with a teleportation portal therfore flash can be easily BFR'd

Then there is TP

Versatility

• His forcefields can easily contain Hulk, and are impenetrable to the likes of Beta Ray bill
• His personal shields can protect him from attacks from hulk and even survive a blast from galactus
• His TP, portals, and molecular manipulation can come in handy

Conclusion: Thanos wins

JL win nothing has changed

Flash solos , Superman blinks , blah blah blah ......

OT : Thanos wins , Arthur is useless here.

This is a good BotW.

Thanos stomps

This same team minus Shazam and aquaman was stomped by hunter prey doomsday in 2 pages. Then ok Superman wasnt fighting doomsday as the battle started but when he fought later on he held much longer but wasnt like they stomped doomsday.

Im pretty confident to say if Doomsday wrecked this team in one issue Thanos will do the same. Aquaman and shazam were not present in the fight, but if likes of Superman, wally, hal and orion couldnt do much dont see why shazam and aquaman would have changed anything.

Conclusion team gets bodied.

@_kingoflatveria: @the_red_devil: @supermanforever: @cdiddyman911: Gotta follow the rules guys. At least 3 sentnces worth of reasons and your vote must be in header 2 to count.

For the record, I do think Thanos wins and I will make a post voting for him later.

@warlockmage

J'onn and Hal last the longest but Ultimately Thanos fodderizes Herald Tier characters (like Surfer, Bill) and this team only has 2 relevant factors.

The Avengers are generally far weaker than the Justice League overall yet they're able to at least put up a fight against Thanos. Overall the League has more powerful members so why are there only 2 relevant factors?

@shirso

For physicals, he has taken hits from PG insane Thor so Superman or Diana's punches wouldn't be enough.

To be fair Thanos doesn't always take this much damage without harm. Is it really fair to say that Thanos will be reacting like this when Superman, Martian Manhunter or Captain Marvel attack him physically?

@apex_pretador

Thanos and his armor's equipment can percieve and react to the runner with space gem. Runner is the fastest being in marvel universe, faster than even Silver Surfer and that's without the space gem.

And the only reason he didn't actually tag runner is because he was subconsciously manipuatling spacetime itself. The space gem is capable of giving a character omnipresence.

Then there is TP

The very next page has Thanos getting blitzed by the Runner and it's made pretty clear that Thanos had to use the Time Stone to beat the Runner as he wasn't able to tag him. Thanos holds almost every advantage over the League but if there's one thing he's lacking, it's consistent speed feats.

As for TP Barry has sped his thoughts to prevent Black Lantern Martian Manhunter from using telepathy on him so TP wouldn't work either. Thanos has to wait for Barry to either get distracted or worn out.

@stormshadow_x

Add Captain Atom and (MAYBE) Doctor fate instead of Shazam and Aquaman and it could be a bit more possible.

This probably would have been a good idea, Atom and Fate could have given the League more raw power and versatility.

@lvenger:

The very next page has Thanos getting blitzed by the Runner and it's made pretty clear that Thanos had to use the Time Stone to beat the Runner as he wasn't able to tag him. Thanos holds almost every advantage over the League but if there's one thing he's lacking, it's consistent speed feats.

Never denied that. The reason being that space-gem made him so fast that the concept of distance barely existed. The scan saying that was also attached.

However, Barry doesn't manipulate space to his will subconsciously.

Still, being able to track his movements is a great feat, and can be used for BFR

As for TP Barry has sped his thoughts to prevent Black Lantern Martian Manhunter from using telepathy on him so TP wouldn't work either. Thanos has to wait for Barry to either get distracted or worn out.

Fair enough. But has he done that without knowing his opponent is a telepath? And if JL starts with a mind-link it could make him open, no?

To be fair Thanos doesn't always take this much damage without harm. Is it really fair to say that Thanos will be reacting like this when Superman, Martian Manhunter or Captain Marvel attack him physically?

To be fair, blunt-force and energy attacks are not that much different from each other. If Thanos can take galaxy-level energy-projection then he should be able to handle moon level and below striking.

Then there's him tanking BB's scream+terrigan explosion, tanking Thor's attacks on several occasions etc.

Then there is pre-thanos-quest Thanos beating classic drax more than once (classic drax was a casual planetbuster)

Thanos admitted Runner could've killed him with a blitz despite already having two Infinity Gems. Considering that was written by Starlin it is a pretty damning answer for how Thanos' creator thinks he does against speed.

Thanos does win though.

A speedster with power enough to one-shot silver surfer and strength to easily overpower him without even trying.

Pretty sure Runner did that with blasts, not physical bullrushes like he used on Thanos.

@sy8008: He still casually overpowered Surfer.