Battle Of The Week: Quasar VS Captain Atom

A very interesting battle indeed. Both are powerful characters in their own right and very underrated.

Credit to @ghostravage for coming up with this fight.

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I'm not very well versed in anyone here. I'll wait and see what arguments are made

@jashro44: Nice battle.

Though unfortunately I lack alot of knowledge on both characters.

I was already talking about this fight before. I can explain it in a more detailed way but for now, I'm just gonna say it can go either way. Either Quasar uses his energy manipulation and absorption to win or Cap will use his physical abilities and his own versatility to win.

Same to a degree. Although if this was N52 Nate I'd back him in a heartbeat. But I'd lean more towards Quasar overall. I'd put his energy absorption and constructs above what Atom can dish out at least for his Post Crisis version.

uggh Wendell's scans were lost to me recently... tag me for debates though please

I'll have to double check some Captain Atom comics just to remember his stats. Than I'll post my opinion on about who would win. Pretty interesting because I'm not sure myself.

This is gonna be good.

Personally I think Quasar should beat Pre-52 Atom based on his sheer energy absorption

Funny how both of these guys are powered by Quantum Energy.

I have 80+ scans for Wendell. I can post some if you need them.

@krleavenger: i plan on rereading his solo series and his Annihilation tie ins... eventually. but if you drop some in your official post feel free to tag me.

@warlockmage: Sure thing.

I'll back Cap Atom. I may drop a post, depending on how the thread develops.

BOOOOO!

Close match here. I'm gonna back Atom here but I have to admit my knowledge is limited on Quasar.

Quasar , I can maybe make an argument for him

@warlockmage: lol, I look forward to seeing you represent Wendell.

How physically strong is Vaughn? That may decide my vote.

This is one of those battles where it's too close to call for me. However, I'm leaning toward Quasar for the time being due to my lacking full knowledge of Captain Atom.

@jashro44: So no BFR for either one of them right? And if BFR is not restricted, how much of the Quantum Field manipulation is being limited here, considering that this is just Pre-Flashpoint limitation on Captain Atom?

Also that's a horrible picture of Nathaniel, especially compared to Quasar's.

This will be interesting. It's draining time boys.

He can take hits from high tier characters, but to answer your question, not very.

However, he can make things like the hulk using his Quantum bands.

Now there seem to be some polarising viewpoints here, and I'm afraid I don't have enough knowledge of Atom to comment. With that said,

Captain Atom's stupid tinfoil body is going to get stripped apart layer by layer and that ugly smear of ketchup on his chest is going to be forced down his throat in front of his weeping children, unless he does not have any, in which case any existing relative will do.

Quasar has superior energy absorption and manipulative capabilities however this isn't too say Cap'n's outclassed. While "Quantum Jumping" can prove limiting for Nathaniel in many situations it's often the rate at which he is forced to intake energy, rather than the magnitude - which is allegedly not limited. Quasar won't be able to drain & incapacitate Cap'n for the same reason he can't incapacitate Norrin. Moreover while Cap'n is able to, reasonably, defend against Quasar's advantages, I don't see Quasar being able to compete with Nate's physical superiority - being able to sponge and trade hits with Kryptonian level powerhouses. They've both got their respective strengths and shortcomings however I feel Captain Atom is the more well rounded. Captain Atom 7/10.

I'll say no BFR since Captain Atom's powers are theoretically limitless in the quantum zone.

Now this is a pretty interesting match up. @static_shock, thoughts?

Unfortunately know next to nothimg about Atom.

I can provide scans for quasar for now. I make an arguement once i see some of Atoms feats.

It's not that easy. Trust me.

The Quantum Zone and the Quantum Field aren't the same. The former is all energy, and the latter is all energy and matter.

I think Atom can win.

@static_shock: Can Adam be drained by him?

Theoretically, no.

He fought Lord Havok in JLE back in the 80s, who sports a suit of armor that feeds off of energy. Havok tried to drain him while they were grappled up, and Atom asked him if his armor had a limit to what it could absorb before powering up and forcefully feeding his armor with Quantum energy. That would imply that he can't be drained. That's really all I got, though.

@static_shock: I see. Thanks for the info

Crap, I was going to make a bunch of classic Quasar scans months ago, and never got around to it. Guess I need to take a look back at those issues now.

While my direct knowledge of Atom is low, I would say it could probably go either way. Possibly the fact that they're in character gives Quasar an advantage, since an immoral Atom could use his transformational powers directly on Vaughan, but I'm guessing an in-character Atom would not. But, I'd be happy to hear of examples of where an in-character Atom has transformed people in the past. It's always hard in a hero on hero battle to know how hard they're going to fight--is it a situation where there's mistaken identity, and they think the other guy is a bad guy, so they're going all out, or where they know it's a good guy, and they're just mad at him, or he's standing in the way of some strategic goal? This kind of motivational hair-splitting doesn't always matter, but it does when it comes to turning the other guy into a chunk of coal.

Atom's strength and innate durability do give him some advantages though, since he's got them no matter what, while Quasar's durability is dependent on the quantum bands being charged and active.

@owie: Atom's transmutation was never really that great. He's not Firestorm's level when it comes to transmutation. He has used it on people before, though. Angela Spica (Engineer), transmuting her from her robotic body to her human body and manipulating the atoms in Maul's body, reducing his mass. But, these showings required a lot of concentration and he had to be close proximity and/or touching them to pull it off. That said, transmuting someone into a chunk of coal would be out of character for Atom. He's never killed anyone like that before.

@asgardianbrony: I'm working on it.

I really hope this doesn't get turned in a scan fest... Smh.

I think it would be better to make an argument first, before providing scans.

@static_shock: well scans for Atom would really helpful for some of us.A couple of people inclluding myself have stated they dont really know enough about Atom to make an arguement.

OK, thanks.

lol duuuudeee, but scanfests are the reason most people come here, don't tell me a guy can do something, show it

Not strong enough.

Good battle. Quasar can't let this fight turn physical.

How would his energy absorption secure a win here?

Arguably, it's not the same Quantum energy, since the Quantum Zone and Quantum Field are two different places. The latter actually exists in both Marvel and DC, though.

I may argue for Cap but I'm on phone right now and besides I don't really know Quasar so good. So make some arguments, guys.

@static_shock: I know.

Post-Crisis Captain Atom actually preceded Quasar, and Energy absorption is actually one of his primary abilities. Theoretically, he had no upper limit and only had the limitation that he would spontaneously "quantum jump" thru time if he absorbed too much energy too fast. However, as he gained greater control over this quirk he eventually overcame this limitation. His body is linked to the Quantum Field and therefore has unlimited Quantum potential. He can't be drained by Quasar, either.

Quasar may not be able to directly absorb energy from Captain Atom like he did from the Annihilators, but any energy output that the other gives should definitely be absorbable. Since they can both manipulate and absorb energy this should just come down to base strength, durability and somewhat their speed. For Quasar its about measuring how powerful his constructs are, since the strength given off by him physically while wearing the Quantum Bands isn't all that impressive. With his constructs, however, he was able to make shields to withstand attacks from Galactus and he's even been able to counter Thanos with them too, although of course neither fight lasted very long. Captain Atom has always been depicted as having strength on par with immensely strong metas such as Supes (although truth be told they never had a full out fight against each other they just traded minor blows).

@static_shock: My bad. I meant to refer to Captain Atom's thing (quantum field) in that comment.