Battle Of The Week: Hercules VS Unworthy Thor

Keeping and eye on this thread.

Forgot to mention in the OP this match was suggested by @warlockmage!

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@sophia89 oh my god it happened.

ok ok ill have a post up supporting the Prince of Power ASAP

@jashro44 Sophia asked for it first ;) i merely supported the good idea

I will go with Odinson.

Voted too close to call. Without his weather manipulation, BFR ability, and lightspeed hammer nonsense, Thor really is not above Hercules who needs none of that extra shit to get business done.

Yeah this seems like a draw.

Thor wins. ( After a good, long, hard fought battle )

My bad. I either missed his comment some how or he must of suggested it during the time I wasn't making the threads.

I think Herc is more skilled, but I am hardly knowledgeable on either person.

Hercules

Thor eventually because he is more durable and unworthy Thor doesn't hold back at all.

Not to mention jarbjon is more advantageous than a mace because piercing deals more damage than blunt force.

@seastone98: How ?Thor has better gear and by feats has more advantages except skill...

Hercules the Prince of Power (and The Main Man if i say so myself)

so I believe Hercules is the winner of this fight... based on having equal, if not slightly superior, physicals, and far greater showings of skill

Fighting The Thunder God

Hercules has stalemated the Thunder God 3 times

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my favorite fight is this one. (Hercules goes blow for blow against Thor) it is of course interrupted by Zeus

however we've seen that in Hand to Hand combat Thor admited Hercules was superior

now this single scan is taken from like a 13 page fight where Thor and Hercules duke it out for an extended period of time (i believe @lvenger has the full fight if you'd like to see it. i only saved this scan) because its the most important scan of the fight.

Mijonir was what made Thor superior to this fight without it Hercules has a slight edge (and i can prove it)

Hercules' fights against Hulk

Hercules is one of the few people who has never outright been stomped by Savage Hulk. in both of their fights Hercules held his own weight

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we see Hercules exchange blows with Hulk without a Hammer or the extra striking power his mace gives him (ill touch on that later)

this fight is interrupted by the Army and Hulk ends up jumping off, Hercules was just fine

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here we see Hercules do extremely well against Hulk, better than most do. (especially at the beginning he gets off a flury of blows which i attribute to his skill)

bonus he 1 shots Ares

Thor and Hercules have equal striking power

this scan pretty sums it up, they have always been equals without weapons... but Hercules has the Adamantine Mace (its basically Adamantium)

with the Mace Hercules' striking power rivals that of Mijonir (which Thor does not have here)

as it is shown here Hercules with his mace has equal force to mijonir

Applying his Skill in battle...

you Hercules actually uses his skills in fights... watch

Gallery

Hercules has this nasty habit of actually using skills in fights (basic though they might be)

Tanking Thors energy attacks

without his hammer, thor's energy attacks without Mijonir are fairly limited and certainly nothing Hercules cannot tank

Gallery

Ask Firelord how well his energy attacks affected Hercules

they didnt at all

TL:DR

1. their physicals are equal but with his mace Hercules hits harder
2. Hercules is more skilled than Thor (barely but he displays it more)
3. The limited energy attacks that thor can use won't affect Hercules...

without Mijonir the scales tip back to Hercules' favor

it'll be a long fight but Hercules should win more often than not (like 5.5-6/10)

Hercules

@abelhsu:

@warlockmage said:

Hercules the Prince of Power (and The Main Man if i say so myself)

so I believe Hercules is the winner of this fight... based on having equal, if not slightly superior, physicals, and far greater showings of skill

Fighting The Thunder God

Hercules has stalemated the Thunder God 3 times

Gallery

my favorite fight is this one. (Hercules goes blow for blow against Thor) it is of course interrupted by Zeus

however we've seen that in Hand to Hand combat Thor admited Hercules was superior

now this single scan is taken from like a 13 page fight where Thor and Hercules duke it out for an extended period of time (i believe @lvenger has the full fight if you'd like to see it. i only saved this scan) because its the most important scan of the fight.

Mijonir was what made Thor superior to this fight without it Hercules has a slight edge (and i can prove it)

Hercules' fights against Hulk

Hercules is one of the few people who has never outright been stomped by Savage Hulk. in both of their fights Hercules held his own weight

Gallery

we see Hercules exchange blows with Hulk without a Hammer or the extra striking power his mace gives him (ill touch on that later)

this fight is interrupted by the Army and Hulk ends up jumping off, Hercules was just fine

Gallery

here we see Hercules do extremely well against Hulk, better than most do. (especially at the beginning he gets off a flury of blows which i attribute to his skill)

bonus he 1 shots Ares

Thor and Hercules have equal striking power

this scan pretty sums it up, they have always been equals without weapons... but Hercules has the Adamantine Mace (its basically Adamantium)

with the Mace Hercules' striking power rivals that of Mijonir (which Thor does not have here)

as it is shown here Hercules with his mace has equal force to mijonir

Applying his Skill in battle...

you Hercules actually uses his skills in fights... watch

Gallery

Hercules has this nasty habit of actually using skills in fights (basic though they might be)

Tanking Thors energy attacks

without his hammer, thor's energy attacks without Mijonir are fairly limited and certainly nothing Hercules cannot tank

Gallery

Ask Firelord how well his energy attacks affected Hercules

they didnt at all

TL:DR

1. their physicals are equal but with his mace Hercules hits harder
2. Hercules is more skilled than Thor (barely but he displays it more)
3. The limited energy attacks that thor can use won't affect Hercules...

without Mijonir the scales tip back to Hercules' favor

it'll be a long fight but Hercules should win more often than not (like 5.5-6/10)

Hercules

Yet, I read material that states the Hammer grants weather abilities. Sounds inconsistent use of weather powers too if he only used them 2 times.

Retcon it is then. As read his Bio when discussing the hammer states weather powers as the many listed. Not Thor himself.

Both Bios stats he has affinity for weather. Check. However, it clearly states, (Bio 1) "Via" his hammer Thor is able to generate powerful weather and lightning attacks. States (Bio 2) that "Wielding" the hammer he does exactly the same.

So it states his real weather control comes from the hammer. At least his powerful attacks. Meanwhile he can shoot weak ass lightning from his hands. So you are correct then, but I am talking potency. Without the hammer, his weather manipulation sis stated nowhere near what we on Comicvine use as feats.

Thor is more then capable of winning here and it will be a tough fight. However I'm going to say herc for a 6/10 majority due to no mjolnir. Thor will get some wins due to no holding back and still being able to manipulate weather attacks but herc can give Thor with mjolnir a good fight so edge to herc

In like unworthy thor 1 he mentions how his ability to control the weather or lightning is pretty shaky at best.

Hercules is really blessed if thor don't have his mjolnir

Really good match up for BotW.

isn't it? all credit goes to @sophia89 he thought of it... really hoping for some good debate (i got work tomorrow so it should give plenty of time for thor debaters to counter my post and leave me with some interesting things to discuss)

@asgardianbrony: Because they're pretty evenly matched in terms of strength and skill.

warlock will have words with you

Herc

@asgardianbrony: so two current bios are wrong because he shot lightning before? That's funny, the official bios stated he can use lightning, but to a lesser degree than his feat with the hammer.

So....

Also why does a Uru made axe trumps the god made adamantium mace?

This a good and close fight.

They've proven to be equally strong on 3 different occasions, about as durable, though Hercules is more skillful while Thor still has the ability to use lightning even without Mljonir.

It's a tough call really.

I'd side with Thor.

not if he doesnt tag me... i have a feeling i know why he didnt either.

however if thats the best argument he can must, then really i wont waste my time

wanna go a few rounds with me?

I'm pretty sure Thor gets a Strentgh amp from wielding Mjolnir. & Is key to him being so mighty & unstopable conpared to other heroes.....So I'm going with Hercules for the win...He'll stomp OdinSon who has no Mjolnir to back him

Unworthy Thor has the physical strength to stalemate Female Thor, Ragdoll and hurt Beta ray bill, and beat worthy loki. Without his hammer he's been able to stalemate Hulk in a contest of strength for an hour.

When he was younger and weaker, he fought A Viking Hulk in battle where each punch was sending them to diff continents, and causing shockwaves at the bottom of the ocean, then punched the Viking straight through the earth to the other side. He also punched a zombie Viking into space in another comic. So his striking strength isn't diminished.

Not to mention that his Dark Uru Arm allows him to hit harder and block attacks from mjolnir.

His lightning is still strong, when he was captured by the Queen of angels and separated from his hammer, he summoned a storm from another dimension into the angels dimension that had no weather, on gorrs barren planet that dampens God's powers he was able to summon fire, while wrestling Hercules he summoned lightning, while fighting Loki he summoned lighting, while battling Gorr as a younggod, he summoned lightning. Thor was the god of thunder before he got mjolnir, the only reason he's having trouble with his powers in unworthy Thor is his angst and money attitude

Even If the lightning isn't strong enough to one shot, continous blasts will do damage.

Then there's also Thors Godblast that reduced Durok the destroyer to a skeleton.

Thor has a lot going for him in this.

The lightning and thunder thing could just be a metaphor but even if it wasn't, we see no effects of it, other than maybe being the reason behind the white flash, it didn't take out or have any effect on any of the Beyonders.

Janjborn is enchanted to have such an effect on Celestial armor, which is the reason it did so well against Exitar and Apocolypse and it's the reason why guys like Powerman who have nothing to do with Celestials can easily block it.