Battle of the week: Bane vs Killmonger

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Poll Battle of the week: Bane vs Killmonger (62 votes)

Bane 45%
Killmonger 52%
Too Close To Call 3%
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For this weeks battle of the week we have two, strong, sturdy, martial artists facing each other. We have Erik Killmonger against Bane! Which one of these two will come out on top?!? You decide!

Rules

  • Combatants are in character. This is post crisis/Pre new 52 Bane.
  • This is a random encounter (no prep for either side) and both characters are unarmed. Bane has knightfall levels of venom
  • They're fighting in a generic city setting. It takes place during the day and they start roughly 100 feet apart and visible. Everything in the city (let's say the city is the size of Manhattan and surrounded by ocean) is on limits.
  • Incapacitation, knockout, BFR (battlefield removal, which means knocking someone so far away that the fight cannot continue in the very near future) or death all count as elimination. Making a tactical retreat counts as a loss, too. "What's a tactical retreat?" It's leaving the fight with the intention of not returning to the battle in the immediate future. Going to another spot in the environment to catch your breath for a moment or two or for a tactical advantage is not a tactical retreat.
  • Treating everyone else in the debate with respect is a sign of a good debater. If you think someone's saying something that just isn't true, go ahead and stick to the facts to point out why. There's no need at all to drop insults just because you disagree with someone. This is just talking about a fictional fight, there's no need for immaturity and mudslinging about fan fic.
  • If you think the poll isn't going how it should, making an informative post about why a character is being underestimated and spreading the word is far more useful than complaining.
  • One more thing: you don't need to write an essay to have your post highlighted in Friday's article. Sometimes concise posts can be way more effective than a flood of paragraphs. Viner posts that stand out will be included at the end.
  • Votes last till late Friday, and the votes will be posted in the OP to see where combatants stand by Friday. Votes do not determine who wins, only who the majority at the time sides with.

Special thanks to @k4tzm4n for allowing me and other users to continue making these battle of the week threads

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Bane

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I say Bane wins.

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#3 morpheus_  Moderator

Probably Erik. Even on venom I don't recall any feats from pre-N52 Bane in terms of durability and strength that would have him surpass Killmonger.

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I'd back Killmonger here.

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#5  Edited By jashro44

Here is some back ground info on killmonger for those interested:

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1: Stated to be stronger than black panther, 2-3: Over powers black panther to the point the narration compares it akin to T'challa as a child wrestling his father, 4: punches a large tree, 5-8: over powers and kills an elephant with his bare hands.
T'challa hits Killmonger in the nuts and says he was beginning to wonder if killmonger felt pain at all, and T'challa kicks him in the face and Killmonger smiles

VS Deadpool (both fights):

http://imgur.com/a/dYMWV

VS Black panther (round one)

http://imgur.com/a/oXrez

VS Black Panther (Round 2)

http://imgur.com/a/kdhri

VS Black Panther (Round 3; they fight for 13 hours):

http://imgur.com/a/ImzY0

VS Black Panther (Round 4)

http://imgur.com/a/88aP2

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Killmonger wins it seems.

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#7 owie  Moderator

Wow, I'm impressed with Killmonger. I could be argued into seeing the two older Black Panther fights through the lens of the Silver Age and consider that the Black Panther of that time was not as much of an excellent martial artist as he is portrayed today...but those two contemporary fights make it clear that there's a clear through line from the old school through today.

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Damn, Killmonger is very impressive.

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Killmonger clearly, he's better in every way even if only slightly.

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WHOAA, didn't know who Killmonger is. But based on those feats, I think Bane is still winning

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Killmonger, based on his feats and fights with T'Challa.

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hmmm

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I don't know much about Killmonger, but based on the feats Bane has he should win.

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I don't know much about Killmonger, but based on the feats Bane has he should win.

I have scans above.

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@owie said:

Wow, I'm impressed with Killmonger. I could be argued into seeing the two older Black Panther fights through the lens of the Silver Age and consider that the Black Panther of that time was not as much of an excellent martial artist as he is portrayed today...but those two contemporary fights make it clear that there's a clear through line from the old school through today.

I don't think T'challa was a bad martial artist even in the silver age.

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Will wait for someone to argue for Bane before voting.

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#17  Edited By sirfizzwhizz

@jashro44: your not allowed to post bios. I got a warning for this like few days ago from Reaching man. Wth :/

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@sirfizzwhizz: wait, since when couldn't you post bios? And why?

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#19  Edited By sirfizzwhizz
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@sirfizzwhizz: So.... where's the line? Is it limited to full pages, or anything in bio pages is a no-go?

@jashro44 can you clarify?

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@sirfizzwhizz said:

@blackestnight93: RenchMp said its copyright infringement

Is marvel going to descend on comicvine users and threaten them like CNN does to meme makers? LOL!

Wait what? PM me what you're talking about (since it's off topic to the thread). I gotta see this

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Killmonger needs a respect thread. Anyway, he beats Bane since he has stalemated Wade and beat T'Challa.

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@blackestnight93: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-user-trump-tweet/index.html

On topic: I think Bane wins.

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@jucaslucasa: Sweet Christmas, just when you though the bar couldn't drop any lower.

OT: Maybe a slight edge to Killmonger. Fighting someone like T'Challa for 12 hours is damn impressive, and IIRC, T'Challa has never actually beaten him

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#27  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

Definitely Killmonger, haven't seen anything from Bane to give him an edge in any category.

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#28  Edited By Sy8000

Killmonger seems superior.

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#29 owie  Moderator

@jashro44 said:
@owie said:

Wow, I'm impressed with Killmonger. I could be argued into seeing the two older Black Panther fights through the lens of the Silver Age and consider that the Black Panther of that time was not as much of an excellent martial artist as he is portrayed today...but those two contemporary fights make it clear that there's a clear through line from the old school through today.

I don't think T'challa was a bad martial artist even in the silver age.

I don't think he necessarily was either, but they put less focus on the details of fighting skill then, so it can sometimes appear that way, so I can see someone making that argument.

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@jucaslucasa: Sweet Christmas, just when you though the bar couldn't drop any lower.

OT: Maybe a slight edge to Killmonger. Fighting someone like T'Challa for 12 hours is damn impressive, and IIRC, T'Challa has never actually beaten him

Black Panther defeated killmonger during over the edge:

I'd also count there fight under Priest as a win for T'challa since he only lost due to outside interference.

@owie said:

I don't think he necessarily was either, but they put less focus on the details of fighting skill then, so it can sometimes appear that way, so I can see someone making that argument.

I don't really agree with that. Even older marvel hand books have stated black panther invented his fighting style which uses cat like stances and strikes.

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Definitely Killmonger, haven't seen anything from Bane to give him an edge in any category.

I think Bane might be more skilled. Killmonger actually has a pretty big strength and durability advantage on black panther. More so than Bane has on batman IMO.

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#32 juiceboks  Moderator

@jashro44: Ehh, that may be. Though T'Challa's outfought more physically imposing foes, and physicals can only take you so far in a 13 hour fight.

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#33  Edited By law1602

Killmonger, he's stronger and more durable without Bane using Venom

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Backing up Killmonger in this fight, Bane has the physicals and skills to contend but Killmonger has a way better record against BP than Bane against Batman in Post Crisis and I think it's fair to assume Black Panther and Batman are very close in terms of fighting abilities at the very least.

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@nolifeking: I would even say that Black Panther is superior since he knows secret Wakandan fighting styles that Batman doesn't know about.

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@law1602: likewise batman knows secret techniques and martial arts t'challa wouldn't know about.

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Bane. Cause I actually like him

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Killmonger stomps lol