Battle of the Week: Aquaman and Mera vs. Namor and Invisible Woman

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Arthur Curry, a.k.a. Aquaman, is having a great run as our Character of the Month, but his time in the spotlight is almost over! The voters said he'd take down She-Hulk and Iron Man, but Red Hulk was a little too much for him to handle. The King of Atlantis has fought well, so for his final fight, we're going to give him some assistance. Now, he's fighting with Mera by his side!

Does the couple have what it takes to defeat Marvel'sNamor and Invisible Woman? Well, that's up to you! So, read the rules, give it a good amount of thought, and then vote in the poll! What advantages does each character bring to the fight? What about disadvantages? Will one team make better use of the location than the other? Will one side have better teamwork? Really think it through before you pick a side (or too close to call)!

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Match Rules

  • Combatants are in character. This means their usual set of morals apply.
  • This is a random encounter (no prep for either side) and both sides have standard gear. Both sides have no immediate knowledge of their opponents, either. This is New 52 Aquaman and Mera, and 616 Namor and Invisible Woman.
  • The fight begins in the north end of New York's Battery Park. For those unfamiliar with the city, it's downtown and close to the water. However, the city remains populated and the fight takes place during the day -- that means it's pretty packed. Assume they start roughly 50 feet apart and visible. Yes, that means Sue is visible right when the match begins. How long that'll last is open to debate, of course.
  • If you're very unfamiliar with New York, click here to see a map.
  • Incapacitation, knockout, BFR (battlefield removal, a.k.a. knocking the enemy so far away that there's no way the fight could continue in the near future) or death all count as elimination. Making a tactical retreat counts as a loss, too. "What's a tactical retreat?" It's leaving the fight with the intention of not returning to the battle in the near future. Going to another spot in the environment to catch your breath for a moment or for a tactical advantage is not a tactical retreat.
  • Hey, you know what would be really cool? Treating everyone else in the debate with respect. If you think someone's saying something that just isn't true, go ahead and stick to the facts to point out why. There's no need at all to drop insults just because you disagree with someone. Seriously, this is just talking about a fictional fight, there's no need for immaturity and mudslinging.
  • If you think the poll isn't going how it should, making an informative post about why a character is being underestimated and spreading the word is far more useful than just complaining.
  • One more thing: you don't need to write an essay to have your post highlighted in Friday's article. Sometimes concise posts can be way more effective than a flood of paragraphs.

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Check the homepage this Friday for an updated article with the following:

  • The results of the poll.
  • Thoughts from the staff.
  • Viner arguments for both characters.
  • If we're lucky, blurbs from industry talent.

This is Aquaman's last Battle of the Week! So, give it everything you've got and then come back Friday to see the results.

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Namor is too strong for Aquaman.

And Sue will brain pop Mera.

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#2  Edited By DarthAznable

Sometimes I forget how much of a scumbag Namor is.

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Namor drowns Aquaman to death. Huge mismatch

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#4  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Namor is too strong for Aquaman.

And Sue will brain pop Mera.

Why do you think that's her go-to move for a majority of the fights while she's in character?

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#5  Edited By GraniteSoldier

@citizensentry said:

Namor is too strong for Aquaman.

And Sue will brain pop Mera.

Sue isn't brain popping anyone in character.

Also, Namor is not that strong...not too strong for Aquaman anyway.

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Namor is too strong for Aquaman.

And Sue will brain pop Mera.

Is Namor really that much stronger than Arthur?

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I was gonna say in before brain pop, but I'm too late.

Aquaman wins because he isn't a douche.

As for Mera vs Sue, I dunno, gotta think it out.

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@edgejohn said:

Namor drowns Aquaman to death. Huge mismatch

Uhm... they both breathe underwater???

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#9  Edited By GraniteSoldier

@edgejohn said:

Namor drowns Aquaman to death. Huge mismatch

How do you drown...that which breathes under water?

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lol Sue wont brain pop anyone right off the bat but given her current power levels and how quick her morals evaporate she could do it.

Current Sue is a game changer for sure

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@edgejohn said:

Namor drowns Aquaman to death. Huge mismatch

Uhm... they both breathe underwater???

My sarcasm sense is tingling CPT Oblivious.

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I was gonna say in before brain pop, but I'm too late.

Aquaman wins because he isn't a douche.

As for Mera vs Sue, I dunno, gotta think it out.

If there is sue storm/Richards thread be assured I will be there for the brain pop.

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Namor and Sue aren't able to work as well together as Arthur and Mera. I believe that Mera would fight Sue, as her water risks Namor stronger. Even Sue's force fields can't keep out tons of water, but Mera can a) drown her or b) draw the moisture out of her body. Once she does that, she can help Arthur against Namor, who'd be hard to beat. But Namor's powers are rooted in brute strength, and Arthur possesses similar strength along with sea creatures and considerable skill with a trident. This is Aquaman and Mera's victory.

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@citizensentry said:

Namor is too strong for Aquaman.

And Sue will brain pop Mera.

Why do you think that's her go-to move for a majority of the fights while she's in character?

I didn't say she would go for it straight away, but if the fight goes on too long, she will inevitably go for it.

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@citizensentry said:

Namor is too strong for Aquaman.

And Sue will brain pop Mera.

Is Namor really that much stronger than Arthur?

Yeah, underwater Namor is one the strongest characters in the marvel universe.

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@k4tzm4n: Are we using Sue which apparently has a hint of Malice in her that seems to let her morals fly a bit in the the recent Fantastic Four series? Or are we to assume that this is the kind-hearted, "normal" Sue that we are used to seeing before the current run?

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@darthaznable said:

@citizensentry said:

Namor is too strong for Aquaman.

And Sue will brain pop Mera.

Is Namor really that much stronger than Arthur?

Yeah, underwater Namor is one the strongest characters in the marvel universe.

Remember that time Abomination knocked him out underwater? :P

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@k4tzm4n: Are we using Sue which apparently has a hint of Malice in her that seems to let her morals fly a bit in the the recent Fantastic Four series? Or are we to assume that this is the kind-hearted, "normal" Sue that we are used to seeing before the current run?

This is just Sue.

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#21  Edited By jwrose5

It would be very interesting to start; Arthur and Namor batting each other around and Namor shouting "Imperius Rex!" while force fields and water constructs are thrown around by Sue and Mera.

But I don't think this is a fight that Sue isn't desperate to win. Her daughter isn't on the line. She won't be brain popping anyone, and this fight will most likely end up in water. Sue won't be a huge factor there, at least not for long, and it would turn into a two on one battle.

Gotta give this one to Aquaman and Mera.

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#22  Edited By Saren

MERA SOLOS

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@citizensentry said:
@darthaznable said:
@citizensentry said:

Namor is too strong for Aquaman.

And Sue will brain pop Mera.

Is Namor really that much stronger than Arthur?

Yeah, underwater Namor is one the strongest characters in the marvel universe.

Remember that time Abomination knocked him out underwater? :P

Why you got to do that to brother dude? *Starts to Cry*

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I am glad the Aqua fans have had their time in the sun.

How can anyone possibly stop Sue before she puts them in a bubble to the moon? She's ... invisible ...

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@citizensentry: no he's not, nowhere close in fact.

Namor has held his own against. Hulk, Thor & Blue Marvel. and underwater his strength is virtually unmatched.

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@k4tzm4n said:

@citizensentry said:

Namor is too strong for Aquaman.

And Sue will brain pop Mera.

Why do you think that's her go-to move for a majority of the fights while she's in character?

I think it's far more likely that Mera would instantly take Namor out the game by complete dehydrating him

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#29  Edited By FoamBorn

@saren said:

MERA SOLOS

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UAU I didn't know she was so badass, she can pretty much defeat anyone with that technique

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@saren said:

MERA SOLOS

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Now imagine what that would do to Namor

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Sue can go invisible though, then Mera won't know where to pull water from

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This battle was fair before you added the women. Mera just simply Out classes invisible woman.

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ok, does Namor have his trident in this fight, because he has been carrying it more as of late.

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#34  Edited By Hiddenlight

@saren: The same could be said about Sue dropping both of them with small bubbles in the brain, blocking and expanding the throath. Or expanding a force-field inside their stomachs or lungs, couple of minutes, even for Aquaman and Mera, without breathing, feeling intense pain while laying in the ground, is more than enough for KO. Also...

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@thedailybagel said:

@citizensentry: no he's not, nowhere close in fact.

Namor has held his own against. Hulk, Thor & Blue Marvel. and underwater his strength is virtually unmatched.

Aquaman held his own against Superman, Wonder Woman, has his trident that can break through the durability of Darkseid, can jump across an entire city. He can use his TP to cause seizures which I think would work on Namor. Can swim faster than hypersonic. He also lifted a building.

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#36  Edited By mickey-mouse

Can Sue block Meras powers with her force field shtick? If not Mera is MVP.

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It was not better to have chosen the Namora than Sue?

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@foamborn said:

Sue can go invisible though, then Mera won't know where to pull water from

Not sure if she has the feat but logically I would assume she could sense the water in Sue's body regardless.

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I'm going to go with Namor and Sue, but not because of Namor

Merc is pretty merciless in the New 52, and while the point of Sue's morals has been brought up, what happens when Mera and Arthur end up beating or killing Namor? Sue has shields that have ridiculous durability, not to mention they're invisible, so she could floor them without them seeing anything. She has the ability to make herself, Namor, or her opponents invisible. While this last one may seem weird, she can make Aquamans trident disappear, which robs him of his major advantage, which allowed him to carry through the first two rounds. An invisible Namor would be a pain in he @ss for Arthur, as it would be for Mera, as they wouldn't be able to see or react to him. This is the woman who beat Dr. Doom in a fit of rage, if she gets mad, it's over. Because I see Namor going down, and Sue getting a bit angry, I'll give it to Namor and Sue 7/10 times.

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@saren: I agree, Mera would solo by pulling water out of Sue and Namor.

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It was not better to have chosen the Namora than Sue?

I'd rather add more variables to the fight; gives people more to think about.

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Namor and Invisible Woman win.

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Sue can solo this, considering she trashed doom even though slightly PiS but we all know dooms is a hell of alot more durable than either here,

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I would think Mera is the deciding factor in this.

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Mera solo.

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@citizensentry said:
@thedailybagel said:

@citizensentry: no he's not, nowhere close in fact.

Namor has held his own against. Hulk, Thor & Blue Marvel. and underwater his strength is virtually unmatched.

Aquaman held his own against Superman, Wonder Woman, has his trident that can break through the durability of Darkseid, can jump across an entire city. He can use his TP to cause seizures which I think would work on Namor. Can swim faster than hypersonic. He also lifted a building.

I Was wondering when the "Trident hurt Darkseid" would come up.

Also. Yeah Fair enough Aquaman can jump.

Namor can fly.....

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#50  Edited By illmatic4177

At New 52 power levels I have Aquaman a little stronger and faster then Namor. But Invisible Woman has the versatile and deadly power set here, and her morals are not black and white, she will f*ck pooops up if pushed. Namor and Sue for the win in my opinion.