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#1 Posted by svtballa (381 posts) - - Show Bio

Who can fly faster ans has better battle speed?  lets use current thor and extremis ironman

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#2 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17185 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor stomp.

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#3 Posted by progenitorigin (7564 posts) - - Show Bio

Odinson stomp.
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#4 Posted by chaos-soul (1516 posts) - - Show Bio

thor

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#5 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38932 posts) - - Show Bio
Thor.
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#6 Posted by higher_evolutionary (2127 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin stands
for 
O: obsecure
D: delusional
I: injecting
N: narcotics 
but thor wins by this much>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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@czarny_samael said:

Thor stomp.
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#8 Posted by BuckshotWasHere (19547 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor flies faster without a doubt. Any advantage in battle speed is not as clear. I might even say Iron Man for that, though there's room for error.

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#9 Posted by JediXMan (42077 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor. Though a tiny part of me wants to say he has better reaction time... just a tiny bit. As an explosion went off, he called his armor to him from another room and put it on before the explosion hit him (this was Extremis).

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#10 Posted by AssertingValor (8137 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor easy here................
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@Buckshot said:

Thor flies faster without a doubt. Any advantage in battle speed is not as clear. I might even say Iron Man for that, though there's room for error.

Didn't Thor show nanosecond reaction before? I thought he did when Red hulk was falling in a Black Hole as Susanoo said.
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#12 Posted by BuckshotWasHere (19547 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@Buckshot said:

Thor flies faster without a doubt. Any advantage in battle speed is not as clear. I might even say Iron Man for that, though there's room for error.

Didn't Thor show nanosecond reaction before? I thought he did when Red hulk was falling in a Black Hole as Susanoo said.

Not sure. I've asked tons of times for feats of high operational speed for Thor and I've gotten 6 scans total, none of which are clearly better than many characters that are superhumanly fast, but not THAT fast, can show. Most are decades old and have him doing things like blocking energy blasts, which isn't that unusual. I'm not saying he doesn't have better feats, but if he does, I haven't seen them. And if he had a single feat like that, would it really matter?

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#13 Posted by Pharoh_Atem (44249 posts) - - Show Bio
@Buckshot said:

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@Buckshot said:

Thor flies faster without a doubt. Any advantage in battle speed is not as clear. I might even say Iron Man for that, though there's room for error.

Didn't Thor show nanosecond reaction before? I thought he did when Red hulk was falling in a Black Hole as Susanoo said.

Not sure. I've asked tons of times for feats of high operational speed for Thor and I've gotten 6 scans total, none of which are clearly better than many characters that are superhumanly fast, but not THAT fast, can show. Most are decades old and have him doing things like blocking energy blasts, which isn't that unusual. I'm not saying he doesn't have better feats, but if he does, I haven't seen them. And if he had a single feat like that, would it really matter?

Not really that is why Supes beat him IMO Thor lacks speed feats he did beat QS easy but QS is only about 3,000 MPH at best not even close to light speed.
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#14 Posted by Straight-Fire (27174 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor

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#15 Posted by Loki9876 (3366 posts) - - Show Bio

thor

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@Buckshot said:

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@Buckshot said:

Thor flies faster without a doubt. Any advantage in battle speed is not as clear. I might even say Iron Man for that, though there's room for error.

Didn't Thor show nanosecond reaction before? I thought he did when Red hulk was falling in a Black Hole as Susanoo said.

Not sure. I've asked tons of times for feats of high operational speed for Thor and I've gotten 6 scans total, none of which are clearly better than many characters that are superhumanly fast, but not THAT fast, can show. Most are decades old and have him doing things like blocking energy blasts, which isn't that unusual. I'm not saying he doesn't have better feats, but if he does, I haven't seen them. And if he had a single feat like that, would it really matter?

This. 
I would say that Tor could fly much faster than Ironman but I have seen Iron Man have better reaction time than Thor. I recently read a comic of Mighty Thor where Thor was speed blitzed by Gladiator. I have only seen Thor reaction feats that are decades old and the one feat from him with Quicksilver but I really have not seen Thor do anything impressive speed wise for some time. 
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#17 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17185 posts) - - Show Bio
@Buckshot said:

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@Buckshot said:

Thor flies faster without a doubt. Any advantage in battle speed is not as clear. I might even say Iron Man for that, though there's room for error.

Didn't Thor show nanosecond reaction before? I thought he did when Red hulk was falling in a Black Hole as Susanoo said.

Not sure. I've asked tons of times for feats of high operational speed for Thor and I've gotten 6 scans total, none of which are clearly better than many characters that are superhumanly fast, but not THAT fast, can show. Most are decades old and have him doing things like blocking energy blasts, which isn't that unusual. I'm not saying he doesn't have better feats, but if he does, I haven't seen them. And if he had a single feat like that, would it really matter?

What I can bring here is his fight against Surfer, while Warlock said that he was moving as fast as his lightnings and other situation in which he had to react that fast to grab Rulk (they were near black hole, Thor wasn't sucked by it, while Rulk was already almost sucked into it, so Thor had to flight FTL and still be able to react fast enough). 
 
And still we're sure that he has at least microsecond speed reaction (so better than is needed to catch bullets):
Thor using microsecond speed reaction
Thor using microsecond speed reaction
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#18 Edited by Pharoh_Atem (44249 posts) - - Show Bio
@czarny_samael said:

@Buckshot said:

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@Buckshot said:

Thor flies faster without a doubt. Any advantage in battle speed is not as clear. I might even say Iron Man for that, though there's room for error.

Didn't Thor show nanosecond reaction before? I thought he did when Red hulk was falling in a Black Hole as Susanoo said.

Not sure. I've asked tons of times for feats of high operational speed for Thor and I've gotten 6 scans total, none of which are clearly better than many characters that are superhumanly fast, but not THAT fast, can show. Most are decades old and have him doing things like blocking energy blasts, which isn't that unusual. I'm not saying he doesn't have better feats, but if he does, I haven't seen them. And if he had a single feat like that, would it really matter?

What I can bring here is his fight against Surfer, while Warlock said that he was moving as fast as his lightnings and other situation in which he had to react that fast to grab Rulk (they were near black hole, Thor wasn't sucked by it, while Rulk was already almost sucked into it, so Thor had to flight FTL and still be able to react fast enough). 
 
And still we're sure that he has at least microsecond speed reaction (so better than is needed to catch bullets):
Thor using microsecond speed reaction
Thor using microsecond speed reaction
But don't time slows when you are near the Black Hole event Harizon?
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#19 Posted by MKF30 (11750 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor

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#20 Posted by Kallarkz (3388 posts) - - Show Bio

We are trying to figure out what Thor has been seen to do recently. Though he is said to be at "classic" power levels I have not seen him use this kind of speed in any of his recent comics

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#21 Posted by MutenRoshi (881 posts) - - Show Bio

 Tony is fast, his armor helps him react as fast as a human thought 
  

but even in extremis has nothing to match the likes of these scans 

   

Thor has a few very impressive feats proving himself to be much, much faster
Although most of Thor's usual speed feats come from his hammer, so he's not a real speedster like Superman or Flash and Thor also has this stupidity/noblity part of his character where he refuses to blitz people and rather challenges them face to face in a fair battle of strength. Which is probably why Thor has problems with bricks that Tony would just BFR or use some cheat to win

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#22 Posted by BuckshotWasHere (19547 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael said:

@Buckshot said:

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@Buckshot said:

Thor flies faster without a doubt. Any advantage in battle speed is not as clear. I might even say Iron Man for that, though there's room for error.

Didn't Thor show nanosecond reaction before? I thought he did when Red hulk was falling in a Black Hole as Susanoo said.

Not sure. I've asked tons of times for feats of high operational speed for Thor and I've gotten 6 scans total, none of which are clearly better than many characters that are superhumanly fast, but not THAT fast, can show. Most are decades old and have him doing things like blocking energy blasts, which isn't that unusual. I'm not saying he doesn't have better feats, but if he does, I haven't seen them. And if he had a single feat like that, would it really matter?

What I can bring here is his fight against Surfer, while Warlock said that he was moving as fast as his lightnings and other situation in which he had to react that fast to grab Rulk (they were near black hole, Thor wasn't sucked by it, while Rulk was already almost sucked into it, so Thor had to flight FTL and still be able to react fast enough).

And still we're sure that he has at least microsecond speed reaction (so better than is needed to catch bullets):

Care to post the other instances you're talking about? I collect Thor speed feats since they're so rare and I'd like to add those to my collection.

And does someone want to post the Quicksilver thing?

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#23 Posted by Kallarkz (3388 posts) - - Show Bio
@MutenRoshi said:

but even in extremis has nothing to match the likes of these scans 

   Thor has a few very impressive feats proving himself to be much, much fasterAlthough most of Thor's usual speed feats come from his hammer, so he's not a real speedster like Superman or Flash and Thor also has this stupidity/noblity part of his character where he refuses to blitz people and rather challenges them face to face in a fair battle of strength. Which is probably why Thor has problems with bricks that Tony would just BFR or use some cheat to win
This scan and the "excuse" that Thor doesn't speed blitz because it is not honorable is a very tired song on this site. Fans of Thor are constantly stating that he fears to use his full strength and speed because he is too honorable. Then there are the scans that state Thor fears to harm the Earth by using his full strength. Both are plausible...to a degree but until Thor actually displays these "great hidden powers' I do not think it makes sense to simply say "Thor can move and think and light speed...he just doesn't do it because hes too honorable".  
This scan of Thor can be interpreted in a number of different ways and even though he claims to have fought "fleeter foes"....where are they? and who were they? 
Not quite sure why Thor is one of the few characters who seems to be able to get away with being able to say he can do things and they become fact....because Thor has never been known for being arrogant and boasting about his abilities before....o.O. 
 
Thor has been in thousands of comics yet I only see the same 10 scans each time his speed is mentioned and 9 of them are decades old and the only recent one people love to post is this Quicksilver scan which shows Thor hitting the ground and Quicksilver falling back.  
If Thors writers wanted him to have nanosecond speed reactions I believe he would have had more showings in recent days to display this ability. Countless scans can be shown for Green Lantern, Superman, M.M, Quicksilver, Flash and others too have incredible reaction time...why is it there are so few showing of Thor and the ones that exist are from around 20 years ago. I do not believe that Thors current writers wish him to have this level of reaction time or movement speed...if they did I'm sure there would be MUCH more showings of it. (Once again in recent days..not the same old 1980's scans.)
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#24 Posted by BuckshotWasHere (19547 posts) - - Show Bio

So that's the Quicksilver thing? That's really not even worth mentioning. It's not a speed feat by any means. He couldn't hit QS directly so he hit him indirectly, smacking the floor so QS would get thrown in the air. It's actually goes further in showing that he doesn't have significant superhuman speed since he couldn't just go and hit him himself, and had to resort to an area attack. I'm still waiting for those other scans, but at this point I'm still of the opinion that Thor's travel speed is great thanks to his hammer, but his own personal ability to think and operate at superhuman speeds is not remarkable, even taking into account a handful of super old showings.

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#25 Edited by MutenRoshi (881 posts) - - Show Bio
@Buckshot said:

So that's the Quicksilver thing? That's really not even worth mentioning.

 
 
Buckshot youre full off fail, 
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#26 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17185 posts) - - Show Bio
@Buckshot said:

@czarny_samael said:

@Buckshot said:

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@Buckshot said:

Thor flies faster without a doubt. Any advantage in battle speed is not as clear. I might even say Iron Man for that, though there's room for error.

Didn't Thor show nanosecond reaction before? I thought he did when Red hulk was falling in a Black Hole as Susanoo said.

Not sure. I've asked tons of times for feats of high operational speed for Thor and I've gotten 6 scans total, none of which are clearly better than many characters that are superhumanly fast, but not THAT fast, can show. Most are decades old and have him doing things like blocking energy blasts, which isn't that unusual. I'm not saying he doesn't have better feats, but if he does, I haven't seen them. And if he had a single feat like that, would it really matter?

What I can bring here is his fight against Surfer, while Warlock said that he was moving as fast as his lightnings and other situation in which he had to react that fast to grab Rulk (they were near black hole, Thor wasn't sucked by it, while Rulk was already almost sucked into it, so Thor had to flight FTL and still be able to react fast enough).

And still we're sure that he has at least microsecond speed reaction (so better than is needed to catch bullets):

Care to post the other instances you're talking about? I collect Thor speed feats since they're so rare and I'd like to add those to my collection.

And does someone want to post the Quicksilver thing?

Thor with Rulk's feat was posted here:
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/thor-beta-ray-bill-vs-wonder-woman/596011/?page=3
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#27 Posted by Nefarious (35640 posts) - - Show Bio

The Thunder God stomps Tony.

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#28 Edited by Pharoh_Atem (44249 posts) - - Show Bio
@MutenRoshi said:

@Buckshot said:

So that's the Quicksilver thing? That's really not even worth mentioning.

  Buckshot youre full off fail, 
All you do is insult I am surprised you are not baned yet.
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#29 Posted by MutenRoshi (881 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kallarkz said:
 
This scan and the "excuse" that Thor doesn't speed blitz because it is not honorable is a very tired song on this site. Fans of Thor are constantly stating that he fears to use his full strength and speed because he is too honorable. Then there are the scans that state Thor fears to harm the Earth by using his full strength. Both are plausible...to a degree but until Thor actually displays these "great hidden powers' I do not think it makes sense to simply say "Thor can move and think and light speed...he just doesn't do it because hes too honorable".  This scan of Thor can be interpreted in a number of different ways and even though he claims to have fought "fleeter foes"....where are they? and who were they? 
Thor as a character has been around centuries, he's probably faced Mercury or the Eternal Makkari at one time, he's certainly gone one on one with heralds and these guys have insane speed 
 
Ironman has never made a fool of Quicksilver, Thor has
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#30 Edited by Kallarkz (3388 posts) - - Show Bio

What exactly was apart of those scans that recorded Thor using any sort of speed feat besides him flying fast which everyone knows he can do..

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#31 Posted by BuckshotWasHere (19547 posts) - - Show Bio

@MutenRoshi: Care to explain?

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#32 Posted by Kallarkz (3388 posts) - - Show Bio
@MutenRoshi said:
@Kallarkz said:
 
This scan and the "excuse" that Thor doesn't speed blitz because it is not honorable is a very tired song on this site. Fans of Thor are constantly stating that he fears to use his full strength and speed because he is too honorable. Then there are the scans that state Thor fears to harm the Earth by using his full strength. Both are plausible...to a degree but until Thor actually displays these "great hidden powers' I do not think it makes sense to simply say "Thor can move and think and light speed...he just doesn't do it because hes too honorable".  This scan of Thor can be interpreted in a number of different ways and even though he claims to have fought "fleeter foes"....where are they? and who were they? 
Thor as a character has been around centuries, he's probably faced Mercury or the Eternal Makkari at one time, he's certainly gone one on one with heralds and these guys have insane speed  Ironman has never made a fool of Quicksilver, Thor has
I read a bunch of assumptions and saw 0 scans and 0 facts. 
He hit the ground hard and made QS fall back. I didn't see him hit QS directly...at all.
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#33 Posted by Aqua11500 (2696 posts) - - Show Bio

I would say Thor thanks to Mr.Hammer! 
 
Other than that Tony stomps...lol

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#34 Edited by MutenRoshi (881 posts) - - Show Bio
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All you do is insult I am surprised you are not baned yet.

I don't just insult, i quote issues, review comics, and reference comics and post scans in battle debates 
 
ocasionally when i do meet something silly i posted a fail pic, 
and YOURE ONE TO TALK you're the one who always deliberately trolls and sticking your nose up Buckshot's butt isnt going to help you win many friends here 
I suspect the reason you've slipped below Buckshots mod radar is because you've never called him out and you only troll in Superman treads to fan wank Superman and trash other vine users in your superman battle forums 
cos Buckshot is also something of a superman fanatic he's probably cool with your trolling 
 
but yeah getting back to topic Thor has speed 
and comic book speed feats to blow Ironman away 
 
not sure how fast Thor is without the hammer cos that's kinda what gives him his power
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#35 Posted by Kallarkz (3388 posts) - - Show Bio
@MutenRoshi said:
  not sure how fast Thor is without the hammer cos that's kinda what gives him his power
That's all I needed to read. 
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#36 Posted by BuckshotWasHere (19547 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael said:

Thor with Rulk's feat was posted here: http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/thor-beta-ray-bill-vs-wonder-woman/596011/?page=3

That just shows Thor flying fast. You could attempt to argue that he had to react quickly to make sure he got Hulk, but you'd have to forget that Hulk was falling in a straight line and that Thor can make his hammer go wherever he wants. He flew very fast towards and then beyond a specific point, but that's all.

@Kallarkz said:

@MutenRoshi said:
@Kallarkz said:
This scan and the "excuse" that Thor doesn't speed blitz because it is not honorable is a very tired song on this site. Fans of Thor are constantly stating that he fears to use his full strength and speed because he is too honorable. Then there are the scans that state Thor fears to harm the Earth by using his full strength. Both are plausible...to a degree but until Thor actually displays these "great hidden powers' I do not think it makes sense to simply say "Thor can move and think and light speed...he just doesn't do it because hes too honorable". This scan of Thor can be interpreted in a number of different ways and even though he claims to have fought "fleeter foes"....where are they? and who were they?
Thor as a character has been around centuries, he's probably faced Mercury or the Eternal Makkari at one time, he's certainly gone one on one with heralds and these guys have insane speed Ironman has never made a fool of Quicksilver, Thor has
I read a bunch of assumptions and saw 0 scans and 0 facts. He hit the ground hard and made QS fall back. I didn't see him hit QS directly...at all.

Agreed. Additionally, just because Thor has beaten someone doesn't mean he's as fast as them. Even assuming all the fights you think happened actually did, it wouldn't mean Thor is as fast as any of those characters.

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#37 Posted by Pharoh_Atem (44249 posts) - - Show Bio
@MutenRoshi said:
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
 
All you do is insult I am surprised you are not baned yet.
I don't just insult, i quote issues, review comics, and reference comics and post scans in battle debates  ocasionally when i do meet something silly i posted a fail pic, and YOURE ONE TO TALK you're the one who always deliberately trolls and sticking your nose up Buckshot's butt isnt going to help you win many friends here I suspect you've slipped below Buckshots mod radar is because you've never called him out and you only troll in Superman treads to fan wank Superman and trash other vine users in your superman battle forums cos Buckshot is also something of a superman fanatic he's probably cool with your trolling  but yeah getting back to topic Thor has speed and comic book speed feats to blow Ironman away  not sure how fast Thor is without the hammer cos that's kinda what gives him his power
You are so immature i do not troll any body you have bean called a troll by the golden one static shock and more please cut it out have you noticed nobody likes you?You talk to much shut your mouth and stop talking. I have many friends and follows do you? I think not.
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#38 Posted by BuckshotWasHere (19547 posts) - - Show Bio

So with the Quicksilver and Rulk stuff dealt with, does this mean the most recent displays of Thor's speed don't actually show him having significant operational speed?

@MutenRoshi: lol at me being a superman fanatic

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#39 Posted by Pharoh_Atem (44249 posts) - - Show Bio
@Buckshot said:

So with the Quicksilver and Rulk stuff dealt with, does this mean the most recent displays of Thor's speed don't actually show him having significant operational speed?

@MutenRoshi: lol at me being a superman fanatic

Nope he does not have any besides those and they got debunked.
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#40 Posted by BuckshotWasHere (19547 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011: @MutenRoshi: Quit bickering or you both get a spanking.

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#41 Edited by MutenRoshi (881 posts) - - Show Bio
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Agreed. Additionally, just because Thor has beaten someone doesn't mean he's as fast as them. Even assuming all the fights you think happened actually did, it wouldn't mean Thor is as fast as any of those characters.

Yeah I don't think he's a true speedster, giving Thor a win over Firelord or Surfer doesn't mean he's faster than them....it just means he beat them.....its just a win, and he will never be a true speedster like Flash or Superman
However Thor has still done things with speed that Ironman can never do  
 
maybe i'm wrong youre right 
maybe your wrong on this and and im right 
 but as i've read these characters and admitidely i'm not their biggest fan so i'm by no means a total expert
 Ironman is limited by his body, he's human and he's limited by his tech he can only go mach speeds? blitz at mach 20, re-act as fast as a human thought 
 
Thor is not limited by this 
He's a Thunder God, if he needs to move that hammer faster than a human thought he does it 
if he needs to fling that hammer quicker than Tony's fastest tech then Thor wins 
Thor doesn't have human limits or tech limits, he's magical, he's a plot device 
that's the way I've read him over the years  

 
sorry about the sarcastic pix
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#42 Posted by Kallarkz (3388 posts) - - Show Bio

That seems like a long way to say no.

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#43 Posted by BuckshotWasHere (19547 posts) - - Show Bio

@MutenRoshi: None of that means he has significantly greater operational speed. His hammer flies fast. That's about it.

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#44 Posted by Morpheus_ (34000 posts) - - Show Bio
Tempted to post Iron Age # 1 in which Iron Man flies away from Thor in an outdated armor, and says Thor isn't maneuverable enough to catch up.
 
 
And, yes, Thor's flight speed should be by far superior.
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#45 Posted by BuckshotWasHere (19547 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kallarkz: lol

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#46 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17185 posts) - - Show Bio
@Buckshot said:

@czarny_samael said:

Thor with Rulk's feat was posted here: http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/thor-beta-ray-bill-vs-wonder-woman/596011/?page=3

That just shows Thor flying fast. You could attempt to argue that he had to react quickly to make sure he got Hulk, but you'd have to forget that Hulk was falling in a straight line and that Thor can make his hammer go wherever he wants. He flew very fast towards and then beyond a specific point, but that's all.

@Kallarkz said:

@MutenRoshi said:
@Kallarkz said:
This scan and the "excuse" that Thor doesn't speed blitz because it is not honorable is a very tired song on this site. Fans of Thor are constantly stating that he fears to use his full strength and speed because he is too honorable. Then there are the scans that state Thor fears to harm the Earth by using his full strength. Both are plausible...to a degree but until Thor actually displays these "great hidden powers' I do not think it makes sense to simply say "Thor can move and think and light speed...he just doesn't do it because hes too honorable". This scan of Thor can be interpreted in a number of different ways and even though he claims to have fought "fleeter foes"....where are they? and who were they?
Thor as a character has been around centuries, he's probably faced Mercury or the Eternal Makkari at one time, he's certainly gone one on one with heralds and these guys have insane speed Ironman has never made a fool of Quicksilver, Thor has
I read a bunch of assumptions and saw 0 scans and 0 facts. He hit the ground hard and made QS fall back. I didn't see him hit QS directly...at all.

Agreed. Additionally, just because Thor has beaten someone doesn't mean he's as fast as them. Even assuming all the fights you think happened actually did, it wouldn't mean Thor is as fast as any of those characters.

Agree with bold.
 
Catching Rulk means it because he had to move his hand fast enough to grab him flying faster than light.
And still he has Warlock's words in fight with Surfer.
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#47 Posted by BuckshotWasHere (19547 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

Tempted to post Iron Age # 1 in which Iron Man flies away from Thor in an outdated armor, and says Thor isn't maneuverable enough to catch up.


And, yes, Thor's flight speed should be by far superior.

LMAO

@czarny_samael said:

Agree with bold. Catching Rulk means it because he had to move his hand fast enough to grab him flying faster than light. And still he has Warlock's words in fight with Surfer.

If you really want to push it, there's absolutely no evidence he moved his hand. Thor catches Rulk on his shoulder. He basically shoulder checked him out of the black hole. Even if he moved his hand to secure him or something, that wouldn't require any speed. All he'd have to do is move his hand once he felt that he'd slammed into Rulk. And sure, he has Warlock's words, what, a decade ago? More? That one feat of him throwing a punch ages ago is what should set the standard for his speed? That should carry more weight than him being unable to hit Quicksilver or according to Iron Man, unable to react to his movements in flight (yeah, I got a look at that right after Morpheus posted just to make sure)? I don't think so.

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#48 Posted by Gremlin From Kremlin (2978 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor.

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#49 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17185 posts) - - Show Bio
@Buckshot said:

@czarny_samael said:

Agree with bold. Catching Rulk means it because he had to move his hand fast enough to grab him flying faster than light. And still he has Warlock's words in fight with Surfer.

If you really want to push it, there's absolutely no evidence he moved his hand. Thor catches Rulk on his shoulder. He basically shoulder checked him out of the black hole. Even if he moved his hand to secure him or something, that wouldn't require any speed. All he'd have to do is move his hand once he felt that he'd slammed into Rulk. And sure, he has Warlock's words, what, a decade ago? More? That one feat of him throwing a punch ages ago is what should set the standard for his speed? That should carry more weight than him being unable to hit Quicksilver or according to Iron Man, unable to react to his movements in flight (yeah, I got a look at that right after Morpheus posted just to make sure)? I don't think so.

1.Ok, I don't want to argue about it. It was rather a point that sometimes we see Thor using that kind of reaction speed. IMO it is a prove of that, but I can unerstand why it isn't for You.
2.The difference between normal Thor and that Thor is that Thor was bloodlusted then. Most people even belived that he was in Warrior Madness (which later was revealed by Odin that he wasn't). Thor wasn't holding back at them moment harder than in any other situation. That is the point of this Thor holding back each time and not using his super reaction speed.
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#50 Posted by BuckshotWasHere (19547 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael said:

@Buckshot said:

@czarny_samael said:

Agree with bold. Catching Rulk means it because he had to move his hand fast enough to grab him flying faster than light. And still he has Warlock's words in fight with Surfer.

If you really want to push it, there's absolutely no evidence he moved his hand. Thor catches Rulk on his shoulder. He basically shoulder checked him out of the black hole. Even if he moved his hand to secure him or something, that wouldn't require any speed. All he'd have to do is move his hand once he felt that he'd slammed into Rulk. And sure, he has Warlock's words, what, a decade ago? More? That one feat of him throwing a punch ages ago is what should set the standard for his speed? That should carry more weight than him being unable to hit Quicksilver or according to Iron Man, unable to react to his movements in flight (yeah, I got a look at that right after Morpheus posted just to make sure)? I don't think so.

1.Ok, I don't want to argue about it. It was rather a point that sometimes we see Thor using that kind of reaction speed. IMO it is a prove of that, but I can unerstand why it isn't for You.2.The difference between normal Thor and that Thor is that Thor was bloodlusted then. Most people even belived that he was in Warrior Madness (which later was revealed by Odin that he wasn't). Thor wasn't holding back at them moment harder than in any other situation. That is the point of this Thor holding back each time and not using his super reaction speed.

But it's not proof since there's no actual evidence of him reacting at a superhuman speed, just flying at a target. And Superman is the king of holding back and yet has many more feats of his superhuman speed. Thor's got one.from ages ago to stand on.

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