Scenario 1 Random enocounter
SNAKE EYES WEAPONS
2 Katanas
20 Ninja stars
1 Sai
uzi 3 clips
2 deagles 4 clips for each
BATMAN WEAPONS
Standard gear
It can come down to h2h
Scenario 2 Each get 3 days prep
Batman vs Snake eyes
Batman takes both easy. Snake eyes is nothing he hasn't seen before.
then again, snake has that cartoon box...
Scenario 1: Snake eyes: Unlike batman Snake eye will seek for the best chance to kill you. Batman will look for the best chance to knock you out, that's it. Also haven't you notice that Batman most of the time gets messed up or is outsmarted in the first encounter? Then when he is ready then he beats up the enemy.
Scenario 2 Im not sure..
Batman wins both... The first round he gets messed up however... Still wins. Round two, Batman takes him out with little trouble.
Are you kidding me?
snake eyes (master of a sword and some martial art or whatever) <<<<<<< batman ( master of many martial arts)
oops! wow, my bad can't believe I got those two mixed up.
But Batman would still win against the G.I Joe ninja.
Round 1 : Snake Eyes.
Round 2 : We all know how that goes down....
@darktiger said:
@Lone_Wolf_and_Cubsaid:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub
said:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.no he is not underestimated,on this site,but batman,is the better hand to hand combatant,and sword fighter
Batman is not evem half the sword fighter that Snake eyes is. He may be better in h2h though.
@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.
Not to sure, Snake eyes is extremely skilled with swords.
I don't put too much stock into that list if Bats is even in the top. Snake Eyes carries a sword with him at all times, he's a master. Bats hardly ever uses one, and certainly never carries one. Batman is badass but he's not the master of every form of martial arts. Knowing and mastering are 2 different things.
@jeanroygrant said:
@darktiger said:
@Lone_Wolf_and_Cubsaid:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub
said:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.no he is not underestimated,on this site,but batman,is the better hand to hand combatant,and sword fighter
Batman is not evem half the sword fighter that Snake eyes is. He may be better in h2h though.
@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.Not to sure, Snake eyes is extremely skilled with swords.
ok snake eyes is the better sword fighter,but not combatant
@darktiger said:
@jeanroygrant said:
@darktiger said:
@Lone_Wolf_and_Cubsaid:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub
said:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.no he is not underestimated,on this site,but batman,is the better hand to hand combatant,and sword fighter
Batman is not even half the sword fighter that Snake eyes is. He may be better in h2h though.
@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.Not to sure, Snake eyes is extremely skilled with swords.
ok snake eyes is the better sword fighter,but not combatant
Doesn't matter, he makes up for it in sword skills, and speed.
@jeanroygrant said:
@darktiger said:
@jeanroygrant said:
@darktiger said:
@Lone_Wolf_and_Cubsaid:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub
said:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.no he is not underestimated,on this site,but batman,is the better hand to hand combatant,and sword fighter
Batman is not even half the sword fighter that Snake eyes is. He may be better in h2h though.
@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.Not to sure, Snake eyes is extremely skilled with swords.
ok snake eyes is the better sword fighter,but not combatant
Doesn't matter, he makes up for it in sword skills, and speed.
that's kool but snake eyes does not win both rounds
@darktiger said:
@jeanroygrant said:
@darktiger said:
@jeanroygrant said:
@darktiger said:
@Lone_Wolf_and_Cubsaid:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub
said:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.no he is not underestimated,on this site,but batman,is the better hand to hand combatant,and sword fighter
Batman is not even half the sword fighter that Snake eyes is. He may be better in h2h though.
@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.Not to sure, Snake eyes is extremely skilled with swords.
ok snake eyes is the better sword fighter,but not combatant
Doesn't matter, he makes up for it in sword skills, and speed.
that's kool but snake eyes does not win both rounds
Never said he was.
@jashro44 said:
Does any one have the link to the interview where chuck dixon states batman and snake eyes are equals in skill?
He said that? I hope someone posts it.
@jeanroygrant said:
@darktiger said:
@jeanroygrant said:
@darktiger said:
@jeanroygrant said:
@darktiger said:
@Lone_Wolf_and_Cubsaid:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub
said:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.no he is not underestimated,on this site,but batman,is the better hand to hand combatant,and sword fighter
Batman is not even half the sword fighter that Snake eyes is. He may be better in h2h though.
@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:
Snake Eyes is very underestimated on this site.Not to sure, Snake eyes is extremely skilled with swords.
ok snake eyes is the better sword fighter,but not combatant
Doesn't matter, he makes up for it in sword skills, and speed.
that's kool but snake eyes does not win both rounds
Never said he was.
@jashro44 said:
Does any one have the link to the interview where chuck dixon states batman and snake eyes are equals in skill?
He said that? I hope someone posts it.
lol me too
@jashro44 said:
@jeanroygrant: I heard he did (and he has written both characters). I have never been able to find it however.
I see, well i hope we do get to see it.
Yea...you guys are probably right...batman, the guy who was't trained as special forces, wasn't trained in TWELVE different martial arts and extensive ranged and melee weapons, won't kill or use guns...yea, he's probably the guy who would win here. /sarcasm off. Maybe you batman hard-ons should learn something about Snake Eyes. I recommend issues 26 and 27 of the original series, just for a little background, and then check out later issues for the rest of the list of ways he schools your chump (pressure points, death blow palm strikes, the "ear that sees", zen body control...just for starters) There's an inherent deficit already when one of the contestants is willing to blow the other's brains out from 1000 yards with a sniper rifle...how far can he throw those gay little batarangs again?
batman wins both scenarios, it's going to be very close in the first one, the second is an easy win for batman.
Curbstomp Batman wins
You obviously don't know who Snake Eyes is.
Snake Eyes. Why? Because even though both are extremely gifted fighters, Batman's rule against killing somebody is gonna screw him over royally in both scenarios. And Snake has no such rule whatsoever.
I'll say Batman in a close fight.. Batman edges Snake Eyes out in hand-to-hand combat by a bit more than a landslide from more feats and experience, and has many gadgets on his side to give Snake Eyes trouble.
On the other hand, Snake Eyes isn't afraid to use lethal force, and has more deadly weaponry on his side. I'd say Batman takes it barely since he has faced enemies who kill before. Great fight though.
Snake Eyes. Why? Because even though both are extremely gifted fighters, Batman's rule against killing somebody is gonna screw him over royally in both scenarios. And Snake has no such rule whatsoever.
Then explain why Batman didn't die the first time he met a common thug. Batman has various ways which he can non-lethally take out Snake-Eyes, just because Snake-Eyes uses lethal force doesn't mean that Batman is by any means hindered.
immortal, there's a far cry between a common thug and Snake Eyes. He wouldn't win based solely on his willingness to kill; he would win on his fighting ability, speed, and training, as well as his tactics. Bruce Wayne was a whiny spoiled rich kid crying about his parents before he was trained by the supposed "ninjas" in the "League" (which isn't even a traditional "ninja clan", but a criminal group that more resembles Chinese or Tibetan fighting styles than anything else - there was a great article on that in IKF a few years back), Snake was killing VC with his spec forces LRRP in the nastiest bush in Nam, before he joined Stormshadow in the established ninja clan. Also, he was trained by two hardened martial arts/ninjitsu masters...not some chump mercenary. As to being able to use his terrain and surroundings, as well as ninja-inspired gadgets? like Bane said, "Oh you think the darkness is your ally?" Also, Snake and Stormshadow were the original ninjas before Frank Miller rewrote every character as a ninja in the mid 80s (please see Wolverine, Batman, and Daredevil). Being fighting machines is what they were, the ninja background was added for flavor to characters who already had a niche (gadgets, healung and claws, radarsight...) Please find me a batman origin story where he's a ninja bdass before the mid eighties. In short, these popular characters ripped off a piece ofthe old Lary Hama Marvel original ninjas. I love batman, but I'm sorry, he would get trounced by real martial artists (with uzis).
immortal, there's a far cry between a common thug and Snake Eyes. He wouldn't win based solely on his willingness to kill; he would win on his fighting ability, speed, and training, as well as his tactics. Bruce Wayne was a whiny spoiled rich kid crying about his parents before he was trained by the supposed "ninjas" in the "League" (which isn't even a traditional "ninja clan", but a criminal group that more resembles Chinese or Tibetan fighting styles than anything else - there was a great article on that in IKF a few years back), Snake was killing VC with his spec forces LRRP in the nastiest bush in Nam, before he joined Stormshadow in the established ninja clan. Also, he was trained by two hardened martial arts/ninjitsu masters...not some chump mercenary. As to being able to use his terrain and surroundings, as well as ninja-inspired gadgets? like Bane said, "Oh you think the darkness is your ally?" Also, Snake and Stormshadow were the original ninjas before Frank Miller rewrote every character as a ninja in the mid 80s (please see Wolverine, Batman, and Daredevil). Being fighting machines is what they were, the ninja background was added for flavor to characters who already had a niche (gadgets, healung and claws, radarsight...) Please find me a batman origin story where he's a ninja bdass before the mid eighties. In short, these popular characters ripped off a piece ofthe old Lary Hama Marvel original ninjas. I love batman, but I'm sorry, he would get trounced by real martial artists (with uzis).
what does being a spoiled kid have to do with this? yes if it wasn't for his parents death bruce wouldn't have become batman, but so can be said about snake eyes, since storm shadow is the one who gave him his ninja life. Batman was trained by some of the world's best martial artists several times, not saying that the hard master isn't impressive though.
and how does SE and SS being the original ninjas help them to win this fight?
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