" @cody1984 said:" @Sgtcrispy said:What does that prove? He can trick a guy who has amnesia? ""@cody1984 said:I said he took him down not that he beat him in a heads up fight. "You consider fighting Bruce Banner the same thing as fighting The Hulk? I don't even know where to begin. That scan doesn't even show Punisher fighting the Hulk at all. It shows him briefly slapping around Banner, he Hulks out and attacks Spiderman and (presumably?) Daredevil before Punisher activates C4 he planted inside the Hulk. What were you trying to prove with this exactly? This scan just shows how easy it is to trick the Hulk, especially when he has amnesia. "
" @Sgtcrispy said:"@cody1984 said:Wolverine must be pretty easy to outsmart if all you have to do is shoot him in his gonads then. Okay, when did Punisher take down Hulk? I'm talking about him actually fighting The Hulk and not just tricking him because Batman could trick the Hulk either. But either of them would get demolished in a fight with them. Him being ruthless probably won't help him much here. Batman fights ruthless people who are trying to kill him every night.I'm not saying it should make him a good guy, but that scan doesn't show him doing anything special. "
" @Sgtcrispy said:" @cody1984 said:That Punisher is ruthless and he outsmarted wolverine and the fact that wolverine can lose and most people consider him capable of taking down batman. So why wouldn't Punisher be able to take down Batman? He took down the Hulk before so why is batman suppose to be out of his league? Also the Punisher is not a good guy so why do you think a scan should show him as a good guy. Also the scan is edited because he hit wolverine with baseball bat in his nuts which dropped him and throw gasoline on him about ready to set him on fire before the fight began. ""I don't see what you're trying to show with this. He shot Wolverine in his manhood and then ran him over with a steamroller while he was in pain. How does this show anything good about him? It's not like he actually fought Wolverine. "
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The thing your not getting about the Punisher is he will do anything to win by hook or by crook it doesn't matter to him. He outsmarted Daredevil, Wolverine, and Spiderman because he knew he wouldn't win in a straight up fight against them. The Punisher uses his head more than he uses his guns. Which is the whole point I made out about him beating the three stooges and the green giant wannabe. "
That Punisher is extremely smart since he kept banner around planning to use the hulk in the future against spiderman, daredevil, and wolverine.